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Mushi, I agree that the cap is a cost control mechanism.

Ultimately we can’t allow clubs to spend themselves into oblivion because if we lose clubs we lose games which means less money being pumped into the game from sponsors etc etc.

At the same time we’re not the same as Football (Soccer if you need to call it that) around the world. Due to the length and breadth of it’s popularity and the amount of money it garners, the great majority of countries have no or at least little need for a salary cap. The richer clubs get richer and the poorer clubs do their best, whereas at the same time they benefit from the support and money that is generated.

In the NRL we have very limited money and need to protect what we have. The parity of competition is vitally important. We need the salary cap to be vigilantly adhered to, both minimum and of course maximum spends. As far as PTA’s are concerned, I find them a blight on the game.

Wests Tigers appear to be the only club as far as I can tell who show zero desire to be anymore than one of the numbers. It seems as though Madge, being a career coach realises that the rhetoric of “lets be competitive and build a good culture ” will keep him employed and employable. His record has shown that unless he is given a good/great roster his coaching skill set of getting the most out of his players through “army drill sergeant” fitness and organisation just gets them to be the best that they can be. Wests Tigers are doing the best that they can. Their ability seems to be at best 9th. They’ll have another year of being bashed and bullied and finish about the same again. They don’t seem to chase and most certainly don’t get great players to the club (Harry Grant is on loan only).

They seem to be the best example of a team wanting to underspend the salary cap. Good management and bad management are part and parcel of business life (and NRL is a business) Every club apart from Wests Tigers seems to show a desire to spend on the type of player that will possibly get them to a premiership or at least be a contender.

Simpler solutions for the NRL salary cap, recruitment and contracts

My understanding of a salary cap in sport is to attempt to have some sort of parity year in and year out. In this way you continue to engage the fans.

Now if we allow teams to hoard money to spend in later years then we may as well not have a salary cap at all.

As it is we have TPA’s which by and large circumvent the salary cap anyway. At least enforcing the salary cap with the obvious maximum but also with a minimum spend keeps the spirit of the salary cap intact.

Either have a salary cap as i’ve indicated or just don’t have one.

You can’t be a little pregnant. You’re either pregnant or you’re not.

Simpler solutions for the NRL salary cap, recruitment and contracts

Gold gold gold

Warriors set for more years of disappointment with Nathan Brown at the helm

Apparently Wests Tigers are trying to do a landmark deal, swapping Maguire for Bennett. There seems to be a sticking point with Souths……they don’t want Maguire to ever set foot in their club………unless he’s playing the pokies.

UPDATE: Wayne Bennett set to be banned after admitting restaurant visit

A bad tradesman always blames his tools. Not to say that Maguire is a bad coach but there’s a stench emanating re his capacity to change himself from the coach who got sacked from Souths.

Maybe he’s just an average tradesman.

NRL Round 13 teams: Mass changes for Tigers, Fifita back for Broncos

Journeymen tend to play 130 games. They’re just like the proverbial “mother in law”, they stick around.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

Nothing landmark about players being loaned in world sport. In a swap deal that suited Melbourne he was “gifted” to Wests. The Storm wanted Harry to gain some experience week in week out in top grade due to having two “Smiths” in front of him.
Great business by Melbourne in their landmark deal as if “Harry” continues to improve and display the form he’s showing, they get him back and if he doesn’t then they punt him.
Wests on the other hand are like the proverbial prostitute, used and abused and a cheap a.r.s.e. one at that.
Just read that Wests are on the lookout for Jason Saab. As though they need another “bargain basement” back. They need another back as much as Quasimodo needed an extra one.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

To no one in particular and to everyone else………….V’Landys is about to have to come to grips with a greatly reduced income from the SOS series. Given that it’s the cash cow that the NRL are dependent upon year in and year out, the ramifications are going to be massive. As i’ve previously said V’Landys has always looked short term in his role with the NRL (maybe he felt he had to) and somewhere down the track over the next few years, numbers of teams and or salary caps WILL be reduced.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

Roger, I have done research and as stated by you the big money signings and offers are from past coaches.
Maguire and his recruitment team either don’t want to spend money, can’t spend money because club has none or no amount of money is attractive enough for major signings to come to the club………..probably a combination of all.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

Just looked up Nofoaluma in a thesaurus and it said…..”Journeyman”….considered competent and registered to work as a fully qualified employee of an NRL team.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

Nofoaluma has been playing for 7 years and is just a journeyman. Plenty of journeymen are assets to teams but he’s never been and will never be anymore than that.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

Burwale, Madge seems like a one trick pony. Bully and push and push and push. Players will buy into that if they’re winning. As soon as they’re not the story changes. After Souths won their most recent premiership things started to fracture and eventually Madge was sacked.
Two seasons with a lack of success will see the Madge magic seem stale. I for one don’t associate success with honourable loss. Lets be competitive but still lose……..doesn’t have a good feel to it.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

matth

Wests are not building anything whilst they go the budget route. The only reason they have Harry Grant this season is they were gifted him as a swap. As soon as the season is over it’s adios Harry.
As you’ve said, swap deals are dependent on Grant returning to Melbourne…..and he will.

Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers

When Maguire had Wests training last season during the semi finals (when they finished 9th) it was evident that he was riding for a fall. Looks like a 9th or 10th place finish this season. Wonder if they’ll be training this year during the semi’s or will the players tell the prize prick to copulate himself.

Maguire fuming as Wests Tigers stunned

Let me get my head around this…………When an NRL player signs a contract is he expected to honour the contract?

It sounds like DCE signed a contract and didn’t honour it. He is an NRL player and therefore does or doesn’t need to honour his contract?

Now, as far as Latrell wanting to test his value in the marketplace, it wasn’t that he just wanted more money, it was his desire to play fullback and not centre…………..I take it that fullbacks and centres get the same money.

The sports media must promote inclusivity

Spruce, thank you so much for articulating this matter so well.

Within the last week Q+A on the ABC broadcast a wonderfully insightful program re racism in Australian sport…………….to anyone who hasn’t seen it, please go to catch up tv and watch.

Bruce Djite who is now Director of Coaching at Adelaide Utd (A League) hit the nail on the head when he said it was imperative for indigenous representation on board and hierarchy of sporting clubs. He further goes on to say that with that, change will occur much quicker.

Do black lives really matter in the AFL?

An Inconvenient Truth…………………..

(1) NRL shouted from the rooftops that they’d be first code back in Australia

(2) They’d signed great broadcasting deals

(3) Massive viewers for round three

(4) Massive viewers for round four

Two out of four ain’t good.

V'landys is out of touch and losing his battle with AFL and rugby

Basketball??

V'landys is out of touch and losing his battle with AFL and rugby

Crosscoder, I don’t mind people being myopic at times but to say that NRL through it’s SOO games has the biggest tv audiences of all Australian sporting teams is incorrect.

When The Socceroos play a World Cup match the viewing audience are significantly bigger than SOO.

Rugby League is the number 2 code in Australia, the country where it’s played the most.

Understand and accept that Rugby League is a thoroughly enjoyable game to watch as is Australian Rules, Soccer and Rugby Union (i’m only referencing the major football codes in Australia).

NRL will never be the number one code in Australia. It will never be a truly international code. It is a code played primarily on the east coast of Australia.

It is what it is, nothing more and nothing less.

V'landys is out of touch and losing his battle with AFL and rugby

Old suburban facilities like Telstra Stadium (or whatever name it goes by)?

V'landys is out of touch and losing his battle with AFL and rugby

Brilliant!!!

There is only one man who should take over from Paul McGregor

Any business will buy product (NRL) if the price is cheap enough. Channel 9 bought FTA screening rights for $56m less over the next 2.5 years. As sure as night follows day Foxtel also paid less than previous agreements for their new NRL contract. Just because Fox signed a long term deal doesn’t make it good if it’s for a lot less money.
The NRL is a business and good business decisions need to be made.
To be fair it may be a case (and probably is) that there are/were no other people interested in broadcasting the NRL and therefore PVL had to get what he could. That’s fine as long as moving forward he spends money proportionate to what he has.

NRL enjoys best TV ratings in more than half a decade

Great deduction but no cigar.

NRL enjoys best TV ratings in more than half a decade

Phil, regardless of the hard dealing CEO’s that PVL had to do business with, he must look after the game moving forward and not just for today. He is being purposefully negligent if he keeps the salary cap the same. The game can’t afford it but it’s a nice story which people are lapping up.

He wasn’t the first in the world to start up a sporting competition after/during Covid-19. He is the first in Australia and has taken a start at any cost attitude. We are privileged to know the amount of the TV deal………Channel 9 for one have paid $56M less over the next 2.5 years.
Somehow PVL wants to keep the salary cap the same with at least $100m less broadcasting money to work with.
He’ll need to turn water in wine or at least find $100m plus over the next 2.5 years just to keep afloat in what is going to be (no need to be Einstein) a very tough economic climate.

NRL enjoys best TV ratings in more than half a decade

All he was interested in was the short term………..right now…………..life tends to exceed the short term, not sometimes but all the time.

NRL enjoys best TV ratings in more than half a decade