The Roar
The Roar

Post_hoc

Roar Rookie

Joined February 2018

0

Views

0

Published

364

Comments

Published

Comments

Post_hoc hasn't published any posts yet

Real surface, strange considering a few weeks back when the men were playing there everyone was talking about how good the surface was, not sure what happened

Sydney FC win third W-League title 4-2 over Perth Glory

I think you have some points but miss the opportunity to pull it together.

The summer time slot is a misnomer, we actually span 3 seasons starting in October Spring and Completing in the middle of May. More of our season is outside of Summer than inside of summer. The other misnomer is that it avoids the other codes, well considering Cricket is the only other sport (besides football) that unites the whole country then if it was for that reason it wasn’t well designed. The reason for the summer slot is to do with the world nature of the game, there is significant advantages to our players and teams to be aligned with Europe and therefore the transfer markets. Players become free at those times, teams are looking to offload or recruit based around those times. It honestly has very little if anything to do with other codes.

In regard to the comment about lacking Australian Stars in the teams, this is where you need to have an understanding of football people, the nationality of the teams players is for many if not most irrelevant. Stars don’t need to be Australian, Man City I think has 25% of their championship winning team as English born, Arsenal has about 15%. Doesn’t stop 60,000 people on average watching Arsenal run around. Non Football field really seem to not understand the international position of football, we don’t compete against the socceroos, the fact some play in the A League is less important about how many have COME FROM the A League.

As for the AFL, the lack of international position may have been a strength as you said in the past, when the world was a bigger more insular place, but they have recognised that the future is different, why make such a big deal about Sudanese born players? or Canadian or Irish? The market for the sport in Australia is saturated, adding more teams and region are only going to give diminishing returns. The lack of international exposure is a liability going forward, no doubt about it.

study has shown the amount of government funding given to AFL is disproportionate to the number of people playing it

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

The NFL is 17 rounds, the EPL is 38

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

I don’t know what it would like or how it would be different.

Personally I don’t have a specific issue with people outside of Football being used to run things, Management is a speciality, Sporting Industry CEO’s can’t be very common, the best person for the job at X time is likely to be different at Y time, because the life cycle is at a different point. Up until this point in time, the people in charge have been professionals with experience, now people complain they are not football people, but then they complain about a Chairman that is a football person. I suspect they are just not happy what is happening so it is irrelevant who is sitting in the chair, Pele could be CEO and they would question how loyal to the game he was.

At this point in time I think the sport has matured enough with enough smart people in senior positions that the next CEO is likely to be from a football background, more than likely associated with Victoria.

One thing I would of done differently would have been a growth strategy, 5-10-15-20 30. At 5 years build on what we have established, at the 5-10 years growth by 2, and set the area, we are going to have 2 Melbourne teams, 2 Sydney Teams.
At 15 years we will have 2 more in this area go off and show us what you can do. by 20 years it will be 16 teams and 2nd division will be established.

To do this we need this sort of revenue, if things are delivered early or late, adjust, and explain. The issue has been for me the FFA has too many things going on and not enough resources. If they need to focus on National Curriculum then they take eyes off A League, if they are focus on new TV deal then they can’t progress Junior National Teams, they need to spend 2 years out of 4 qualifying for a world cup throw in hosting a Asian Cup etc. Too much for too few resources. Either FFA needs to be bigger OR HAL needed to have a separate management structure earlier.

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

yes, exactly what we need a condescending outsider explaining what we need to do. I wonder if there is a Roar equivalent of mansplaining for when someone that doesn’t watch football tell us what we need to do?

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

Close to 1 million people want to watch the A league, I would question where 3rd rate comes from, but unlike other sports, people watch various ‘levels’ of football quiet happily, otherwise League 1 wouldn’t have fans, nor would Eredivisie, or CSL or any 150 leagues around the world that aren’t the top 5 European Leagues

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

Nick, thanks for the reply, and happy to engage with someone who has done the hard yards with coaching. Considering we are only now getting to the kids who have gone right through the curriculum it is too early to tell what has it produced, added to that the first number of years there was a huge reluctance to teach the curriculum so I would argue it will still be another 5 years before we see it’s true impact.
I don’t disagree with the comment that the AIS was close too early, mayve some cross over would have been good. I know I have spoken to Steve O’Connor on this and he of course was very positive of the role the AIS was playing.

I am still lost at what the issue with 433 is? I don’t understand how it limits anyone, as a junior development it actually gives all the skills necessary, it actually encourages a total football perspective, it encourages every position to have both a defensive and attacking role, it is a strong system to teach BP and BPO, it allows a possession based game whilst also allowing teams to play counter attacking. It encourages 3&4’s to become ball players, allows keepers to sweep. I just don’t see how 433 limits player development, everything a young player needs can be learnt and in fact has to be learnt in a 433 structure. I would argue that 433 is the least rigid structure, it allows a lot of freedom of interpretation in game play

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

There is a lot wrong with this piece. Good on you for writing it, it is engaging and provoking, but there is a lot wrong with this.

The current A league and FFA is nothing and I mean nothing like the NSL and Soccer Australia. We have Nationally televised games several nights and days per week, we have a televised women completion, we have National men and women teams down to Under 15’s as have been said yes we don’t have the CoE but we have 9 academies 2 of which are free.

The wisdom of the crowd is not not a verified notion, very easy to say listen to the fans where to put the next teams, but Sokkahtwitter isn’t putting in the $100 million that Foxtel and owners are. Sorry but they are just as likely to quit a team as Clive Palmer is. Foxtel haven’t quit, now are we beholden to them, NO. But a team that works in terms ov viewers or interest are going to be the same for Foxtel, Optus, Telstra or whoever takes up the next deal and the one after that.
Kids may have playstations these days, but in the past they had bikes, cricket bats, surf boards rugby balls plenty of things to ‘steal’ their attention away, but still they played. More kids are playing Football now than ever before, so how can you possibly say we are losing them to FIFA19?

As for the 433 issue you seem to have, I suspect you simply don’t understand the Curriculum, I have to ask, have you coached it? Have you been trained on it? Do you understand what it is about? Considering it is only implemented at 11 to 13 year old, how you can say it creates a lack of understanding of the game? How so what is so damaging about starting a game with players in a central defence role? How does it limit a players understanding if they start as fullbacks or defensive midfielders or attacking midfielders or strikers? What is so damaging about 433? I honestly don’t see what or how it damages youth development. EVERY and I mean EVERY Role you can play in football is open to you? Whats the difference between a wing back often deployed when you play 3 at the back and a 2 or 5 bombing on up the pitch and playing outside a 7 or 11? If you play a 10 and 8 in AM you can just as easily have a CF at 9 rather than a striker with both the 10-8 running off of them. You can play wide you can play narrow, you can sit deep and you can play a high line. It does not limit any development.

Like I said good on you for having a go, but there is a fair bit wrong with this article (as their is with my reply)

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

You forgot Walking Football, we are now targeting over 70’s. We are like the Catholics, we take them when their born and have them for life 🙂

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

Sounds like an interesting get together, and a great location, and after the sessions are over, I can recommend a short drive into Berry and grab a hot cinnamon doughnut from the Berry Doughnut Van.
I love Jambaroo Pub and the shrine of Australian Football, it should be a requirement that all Australian Football Family, from players of all calibre, to coaches, executives, to journalists should visit the place and have a cold one, toast Johnny Warren and Australian Football

Chatting with Hope Solo at the Jamberoo pub

I want to say a lot of things, but this will suffice, Hakeem welcome home, glad you are back with your loved ones, your club and your community. Craig Foster, the PFA, the Football Family and #Sokkahtwitter outstanding work this is truly a great thing, #SaveHakeem was trending world wide, players from all over the world were voicing their support. It was a great thing.

The former Rick and now DrDisnik you were wrong (again) the pressure worked, I know you might not be as happy that Football flexed it’s muscle and governments listened. Molly I guess you are one of the few outside of Bahrain Royalty that ain’t happy with the result, not sorry.

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

well there’s the door don’t let it hit you on the way out

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

No, and has been answered a number of times, go back read the answer educate yourself otherwise you betray yourself to be something else

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

Is Kaks wrong though?

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

I may need to be corrected, but I am not sure if Hakeem has resided in Australia long enough to meet Citizenship criteria, happy to be corrected, and it would solve a number of issues, I presume

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

No, as an Australian Resident, and has been said by 3 people I believe already he was granted asylum by Australia and therefore under the protection of Australia.

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

Mike, It is a great piece you wrote and as you said it is a touchy one to draw parallels to our other issues. To do so, can trivialise something which is profoundly serious. I think you do a good job of saying what can’t be said at this time. I hope this period can be a launch pad for the future

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

Molly, it is best you don’t enter a conversation you clearly do not understand. Go away educate yourself about this case and then come back.

He is the concern of Australia, he is a resident and we granted him Asylum. What is more he is a human being that is being persecuted, so as Humans we have a role to play in his protection. Now go away.

Australia has proved that Hakeem al-Araibi will not be forgotten

Your example also required $30 million in Federal and State Government funding. $30 million would fund a A2 League for a few seasons.

Funny how the Wanderers have built their own training and Academy centre for $17 million, but funded by our Owners, The Mariners have done something similar, so has City, Roar have built their own academy I believe. Amazing how Football does this on it’s own, but AFL go begging for $30 million for the Lions, $20 million for GWS, I believe Swans are asking for around the same amount for their training facilities.

Why a lack of trust in the FFA is leading to a lack of growth in football

AR, let me ask you in relation to your preferred Sport AFL
If media are not to be cheerleaders or agenda setters then explain Eddie McGuire? Is he a media person or is he a Club President? When is he “cheering for the game and setting the agenda” and when is he not, because I am pretty certain there appears to be no Chinese Wall in relation to him .
Eddie not your cup of tea? How about Koche? Which one is he? When he is on Sunrise having a dig at Football (Soccer) or talking up Adelaide is he being a cheerleader or setting an Agenda? I can’t tell can you?
How about Ben Buckley (we all know him in Football) in case you weren’t aware he is an executive Director at Foxtel, that oversees Sports Content, AND just happens to be the President of North Melbourne who did he replace, oh that’s right James Brayshaw, sports commentator and former President of North Melbourne
So I guess I am just curious, with at least 3 current AFL presidents and 1 former all involved in sports media why don’t you think the same for AFL? If you have made such a comment about AFL please correct me, I’d be happy to acknowledge it, if not, again I ask why do you spend so much time on a football tab when clearly you do not have an interest in the game?

Why a lack of trust in the FFA is leading to a lack of growth in football

Disagree with some of the conclusions of Matthew, but have to say well written, I think you need to understand what Babbel is saying. By generational issues he is meaning an awareness a maturity of the game. And he is right. He is not questioning the skill level of his younger players (like he as done with the older players such as Roly) he is questioning their ability to adapt to the game they are in. This comes from what a lot of us have been saying for a long time, our young players are not playing enough football they need to be playing 2-3 times more games. As they mature as they get more games under their belt they will adapt to what is occurring, not to the game plan they went into. As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

As for many of the replies I have less time for the absolute twaddle you guys have added, Pete and Arthur you clearly don’t have a clue, sorry but why would they move on to another coach? Babbel inherited a very poorly recruited team, many on bloated Salaries and many on the way out at the end of this year. Babbel has recruited 4 players at this time. Patrick and Baumjohan who have been the two best imports for the Wanderers this year, Yebboah, who is playing very well, and now Duke. The 4 he has brought in are quality (Alex is only a 1 year deal so will be interesting if he stays)

Generational problem is Babbel's, not Wanderers

You then ask who they support, and it is inevitably United, Liverpool, Chelsea, very few support City (because that would be too obvious, Chelsea is far enough back that they can claim to be long term ‘fans’) none of these EPL supporters ever seem to support Norwich or Queens Park Rangers, funny that.
I am a foundation Wanderers member bought membership on the day they were available. Why? Because I like football, I have kids and I wanted them to have a connection to the game here. I watch the EPL, I’m a Spurs supporter, why? Because that’s where my family are from, where my Sister was born, so I can watch them and enjoy watching them (but they are not me, they don’t represent me, but I enjoy watching them, and if there are any United fans not in the mood ok, Pogba should have been red carded) I don’t get Euro snobs, never have never will I have stood watching games in Fleet, in Aldershot and in Limerick, I’m assuming none of those Eurosnobs have done likewise.

Whatever happened to supporting your team no matter what?

In terms of your comments on Hammil, I have notice the media (not just you) also fail to mention that Keoghs arms were around Hammil, but VAR seemed to ignore all that, well it appears they ignore that when a lower team looks to be upsetting one of the high flyers

Whatever happened to supporting your team no matter what?

Kangas, that’s just bad parenting 🙂

Why have so many people stopped watching the A-League?

Actually not a bad thought, Gaelic Football is only big in certain Counties, whilst Hurling is big in others, a few counties have a cross over and they are good and popular in both. The greatest Hurling County, Kilkenny, Gaelic Football is not that popular, nor are they particularly good at it.

Why have so many people stopped watching the A-League?