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Send in the SANZAR Special Forces

Last weekend saw the British and Irish Lions kick off their Australian tour with a 59 to 8 victory over the Baa-Baa’s in Hong Kong. The game was essentially an exhibition game between two artificial sides, yet over 28,000 people paid good money to watch them run around.

I suggest the patients at the Healthscope hospital on the Northern Beaches in Sydney, built by taxpayers and profits taken by Healthscope, may disagree.

As would the public schools with decades old demountable classrooms and public schools installing demountables.

A couple of billion dollars would go a long way to resolve these issues, rather than sports fields for elite, money making sports.

Why Sydney needs a new football stadium

Here is something to mull over.
The “NSW” in NSW Government actually stands for “New South Wales”, not “Newcastle-Sydney-Wollongong”.
It is a state government not a regional council. Providing sporting facilities is a council function. Even if you disagree, the fact is that providing business premises for profit making elite sports businesses is not a government function (at any level of government).
While we have a position where public hospitals and public schools run as a second priority to private hospitals and private schools there can be no justification for a state government funding this sop to their mates in business.

Why Sydney needs a new football stadium

I knew you’d come around, eventually ????

Mick O’Connor? Start Pocock in the 7 and Hooper off the bench, thanks

Oh no. Now you’ve done it.

Can someone please pass me the No-Doz?

This is going to degenerate into list after list of names, which will be identical to the list after list of names seen in every thread that even remotely mentions Wallabies selection.

Mick O’Connor? Start Pocock in the 7 and Hooper off the bench, thanks

And when it once again becomes competitive and offers some entertainment and success, the game will be celebrated.

That is what the elite teams are there to do. Until they fulfil that, then the negativity directed at them will continue.

Rugby supporters, can we please change tone?

They made the biggest mistake a cheat can, they got caught – for that alone they should be cut loose…

A golden opportunity: Don't pick Smith and Warner

A gutsy competitor, who never left the hill wondering if she could have gone harder. Vonn’s spectacular (and sometimes painful) foray’s into the fencing are testament to that – each time she climbed the long hill of rehabilitation and returned to the podium.

I agree with Vonn’s observation that there are plenty of established and up-and-coming competitors to keep the excitement, thrills and spills going apace.

More than just Tiger’s girl: Vonn ends skiing career as a sporting icon

Well, that’s a given. However, if Larkham and Chieka are so different in coaching methods/style/strategy why would you move one to a position that oversees all of the other teams?

Does this not create a skills/strategy gap between the teams under Larkham and the team under Chieka?

Making transition from one to the other just that bit more complex? Isn’t being over-complex one of the many criticisms of the Wallabies/RA game plan and set up?

Stephen Larkham sacked as Wallabies assistant coach

“Ultimately Michael is responsible for the performance of the team. We have differences in attacking strategy and overall game philosophy. We couldn’t agree on these key points and it is in the best interest of the team that they receive clear and consistent messages from their coaches,” said Larkham.

Now let me see if I’ve got this right. Larkham doesn’t agree with Chieka’s strategy and systems. So much so that there was inconsistent messaging to the team.

Yet, Larkham has been moved to a position that “will focus on coach mentoring, coaching and skills development across the Australian Sevens teams, Junior Wallabies, State under-20 academies and the Wallaroos”.

Does this mean RA doesn’t want Chieka’s coaching style and methods spread to other parts of the organisation?

Stephen Larkham sacked as Wallabies assistant coach

I don’t disagree. At All. They must not be judged on that but on societal norms and if that means criminal proceedings as well as sporting sanctions, so be it.

I am pretty sure that if I was done for DV then I’d be dealt with harshly by the courts and I’d be out of work.

The clubs can not longer be the only ones doing the dirty work.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

By all means let the clubs and federations act, and act decisively.

Just don’t let this belief that because they are sports people that getting punishment from the sport is enough nor that the sports should carry this burden.

We need society to come down on them and the non-famous perpetrators.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

You have summed up the problem I have with this article and with the treatment of sports people.

While the club and the NRL have acted, which is fine and correct, why is it incumbent upon these private companies to act, why is it their responsibility to fight the violence scourge as is implied in the article?

Why is it an entertainment company’s fault when one of its employees beats up someone (out of hours).

Why is it not up to society to sort out these thugs and cowards?

Maybe it is all that these people can understand and maybe the entertainment companies are the only ones they listen to, but I’d bet London to a brick that if the courts started to punish these guys properly then the entertainment companies would appreciate the help, as would society in general.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

While I agree that people who commit acts of violence against other people (regardless of gender) deserve to be punished and should become pariahs, I do have to ask a question.

When did sporting entertainment companies become an arm of the justice system?

This has been going on for years now, from players asking magistrates to allow their club to impose the punishment to the pitchfork armed mobs baying for the NRL, ARU, AFL, FFA (etc.) to do more to punish offenders.

The sporting clubs and their management arms are private companies, yes they are entitled to have codes of conduct and should expect high levels of behaviour, just like any company but they are not the justice system, they are not, ultimately, responsible for meting out punishment for criminal behaviour. Nor are they the nannies and wet-nurses for the so-called adults who they employ.

The courts and the legal systems are the platforms through which these offenders should be tried under, not the NRL Judiciary.

I am happy for the courts to throw the book at the offenders, I do not believe that sporting entertainment companies are in any way the correct people to be providing the punishment.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

Nailed it.

Even before the BBL curse, ‘Chairman’s Wickets’ were creating poorly trained batsmen – think back to the Ashes campaigns early this century – the whole issue of batsmen not being able to handle seaming and swinging deliveries.

Discussion about improving BBL shows people care

Hi Brett,

Could the feeling of running too long be simply because the games are much the same and offer little in the way of variety nor do they ask the viewer to commit to the spectacle?

Couple this with a saturated market with the WBBL and you have people tiring of the bubble gum carnival that is pitched at a demographic who have attention spans of gnats.

Discussion about improving BBL shows people care

Better than losing by an innings and 40 I would imagine.

Australia win at the Gabba on Day 3

I suppose that the CA board are down at the homemaker centre – getting some wallpaper.

It’s time for a good old session of papering over the cracks.

Australia win at the Gabba on Day 3

Me too. But we can dream can’t we?

Joey and Freddie are right: There are too many teams in Sydney

Hey Ed,

Thanks for the heads up.

It tickled my funny bone that this thread is under ‘Other Sports’. Commenting is the newest blood sport I suppose.

(Whatever happened to “play the ball, not the man”?)

Announcing new features for The Roar's comment section

My comment regarding “budding mathematicians” was in reference to the issues experienced by those with singularly focused childhoods.
Sporting people aren’t the only ones to fall into this category.

NRL players are adults - let's start treating them like it

Sadly, by the time many sports people come under the harsh glare of the public spotlight it is too late.

They have spent their formative years being ‘the special one’, with people going out of their way the make sure they have the best run at success.

While this may be necessary too little effort is made to ensure they have the skills to be ‘normal’ and to behave as society expects.

By the time the are in their 20’s and the NRL start to lecture them it is too late as their character has been set.

Many really haven’t had a childhood that allowed them to have these societal norms become habit. Cocooned and praised endlessly as a child is a recipe for maladjustment, especially when the sports hero bubble bursts and they are out trying to fend for themselves. Mental issues and these behaviours are common place is those who have spent their childhood with one goal, be that; playing footy, swimming fast or running around a track, being a math guru etc.

These kids need better support with life skills while growing up.

NRL players are adults - let's start treating them like it

I am genuinely curious why you say “we’re entitled to be told why”?

Where does this entitlement come from?

These are individuals, working for private enterprise. The players are effectively contractors. There is no reason to expect that employment details and reasons for choosing a particular contractor should (or must) be made public.

The company (CA) are free to employ anyone they like and do not have to explain that to anyone outside the process.

The last bastion of the CA Secret Men's Club has got to go

Why would this be under FOI legislation?

CA is not a government agency. The players are private employees, working for private enterprise.

FOI only applies to certain part of government.

Additionally, what makes you think you have a right to know? These are private individuals undertaking their employment for private enterprise. You have exactly zero right to know anything about them that they do not publicly release.

I'm not calling Steve Smith and Cameron Bancroft liars, but...

Lord help ’em, they just aren’t that bright.

Failing Test batsmen ordered back to Big Bash to "spend solid time in the middle"

His Dad.

Marsh in, Handscomb out of Boxing Day Test