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Send in the SANZAR Special Forces

Last weekend saw the British and Irish Lions kick off their Australian tour with a 59 to 8 victory over the Baa-Baa’s in Hong Kong. The game was essentially an exhibition game between two artificial sides, yet over 28,000 people paid good money to watch them run around.

You have summed up the problem I have with this article and with the treatment of sports people.

While the club and the NRL have acted, which is fine and correct, why is it incumbent upon these private companies to act, why is it their responsibility to fight the violence scourge as is implied in the article?

Why is it an entertainment company’s fault when one of its employees beats up someone (out of hours).

Why is it not up to society to sort out these thugs and cowards?

Maybe it is all that these people can understand and maybe the entertainment companies are the only ones they listen to, but I’d bet London to a brick that if the courts started to punish these guys properly then the entertainment companies would appreciate the help, as would society in general.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

While I agree that people who commit acts of violence against other people (regardless of gender) deserve to be punished and should become pariahs, I do have to ask a question.

When did sporting entertainment companies become an arm of the justice system?

This has been going on for years now, from players asking magistrates to allow their club to impose the punishment to the pitchfork armed mobs baying for the NRL, ARU, AFL, FFA (etc.) to do more to punish offenders.

The sporting clubs and their management arms are private companies, yes they are entitled to have codes of conduct and should expect high levels of behaviour, just like any company but they are not the justice system, they are not, ultimately, responsible for meting out punishment for criminal behaviour. Nor are they the nannies and wet-nurses for the so-called adults who they employ.

The courts and the legal systems are the platforms through which these offenders should be tried under, not the NRL Judiciary.

I am happy for the courts to throw the book at the offenders, I do not believe that sporting entertainment companies are in any way the correct people to be providing the punishment.

NRL left with no choice but to impose tough stance on player misbehaviour

Nailed it.

Even before the BBL curse, ‘Chairman’s Wickets’ were creating poorly trained batsmen – think back to the Ashes campaigns early this century – the whole issue of batsmen not being able to handle seaming and swinging deliveries.

Discussion about improving BBL shows people care

Hi Brett,

Could the feeling of running too long be simply because the games are much the same and offer little in the way of variety nor do they ask the viewer to commit to the spectacle?

Couple this with a saturated market with the WBBL and you have people tiring of the bubble gum carnival that is pitched at a demographic who have attention spans of gnats.

Discussion about improving BBL shows people care

Better than losing by an innings and 40 I would imagine.

Australia win at the Gabba on Day 3

I suppose that the CA board are down at the homemaker centre – getting some wallpaper.

It’s time for a good old session of papering over the cracks.

Australia win at the Gabba on Day 3

Me too. But we can dream can’t we?

Joey and Freddie are right: There are too many teams in Sydney

Hey Ed,

Thanks for the heads up.

It tickled my funny bone that this thread is under ‘Other Sports’. Commenting is the newest blood sport I suppose.

(Whatever happened to “play the ball, not the man”?)

Announcing new features for The Roar's comment section

My comment regarding “budding mathematicians” was in reference to the issues experienced by those with singularly focused childhoods.
Sporting people aren’t the only ones to fall into this category.

NRL players are adults - let's start treating them like it

Sadly, by the time many sports people come under the harsh glare of the public spotlight it is too late.

They have spent their formative years being ‘the special one’, with people going out of their way the make sure they have the best run at success.

While this may be necessary too little effort is made to ensure they have the skills to be ‘normal’ and to behave as society expects.

By the time the are in their 20’s and the NRL start to lecture them it is too late as their character has been set.

Many really haven’t had a childhood that allowed them to have these societal norms become habit. Cocooned and praised endlessly as a child is a recipe for maladjustment, especially when the sports hero bubble bursts and they are out trying to fend for themselves. Mental issues and these behaviours are common place is those who have spent their childhood with one goal, be that; playing footy, swimming fast or running around a track, being a math guru etc.

These kids need better support with life skills while growing up.

NRL players are adults - let's start treating them like it

I am genuinely curious why you say “we’re entitled to be told why”?

Where does this entitlement come from?

These are individuals, working for private enterprise. The players are effectively contractors. There is no reason to expect that employment details and reasons for choosing a particular contractor should (or must) be made public.

The company (CA) are free to employ anyone they like and do not have to explain that to anyone outside the process.

The last bastion of the CA Secret Men's Club has got to go

Why would this be under FOI legislation?

CA is not a government agency. The players are private employees, working for private enterprise.

FOI only applies to certain part of government.

Additionally, what makes you think you have a right to know? These are private individuals undertaking their employment for private enterprise. You have exactly zero right to know anything about them that they do not publicly release.

I'm not calling Steve Smith and Cameron Bancroft liars, but...

Lord help ’em, they just aren’t that bright.

Failing Test batsmen ordered back to Big Bash to "spend solid time in the middle"

His Dad.

Marsh in, Handscomb out of Boxing Day Test

It has always been thus. If you are from the chosen few it is harder to get out of the Australian team than it is to get in.

Marsh in, Handscomb out of Boxing Day Test

Packers must have been watching the Wallabies defence…

New York Jets' speedster scorches the turf in epic kickoff return

That could well be it. I am just not convinced. It feels more like the contrition is about getting sprung, rather than the act.

A remorseful Steve Smith comes clean

I don’t know why, but I just don’t believe the ‘contrition’ from Smith.

It all feels like it is too stage managed and is the product of a PR Damage Control Spinner.

Once the ban has been served he needs to prove his eligibility to rejoin the team by earning selection, then if he does earn a recall, it needs to be made clear that the captaincy is off the table. His admission that he turned a blind eye to the cheating should disqualify him from any further consideration as captain.

A remorseful Steve Smith comes clean

“e-sports athletes”?


A rather long bow to draw isn’t it?

Competitor? Sure.

Athlete? Umm, no.

There might be interest in it, but so too there is a resurgence in baking and handicraft contests.


Why esports is becoming a bigger part of the Australian sporting calendar

Anyone but Gordon…

(Carn the Rats)

Rugby Australia is turning into Fort Freefall

Surely they had it all in order before the meeting. They couldn’t be that incompetent.

Oh wait…

Cheika survives Rugby Australia review - for now

Umm the NRL are one of the rugby codes I alluded to (even if I did it with a typo…)

Sydney is the most embarrassing city in Australia

“you can’t be too hard on either sides batsmen”


This is what they are supposed to do for a living. A very lucrative living. Yet none of them appear to understand that they have five days to bat, not five overs.

I suggest that they all be given an ultimatum – play test cricket properly or leave.

Composed Head upstages impatient teammates

If the broad churches that are soccer and the rugby’s are so all-consuming and omnipotent, then let them fund their own places of business.

Don’t expect the taxpayer to prop up their flawed and failing business models.

If these codes are so important and are so wanted by the population, why does no-one go to these stadiums and why are the businesses within the codes always in danger of going broke?

Sydney is the most embarrassing city in Australia



Langer's extraordinary prediction in the Adelaide nets may derail the summer