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Apology accepted on behalf of Japanese readers. I disagree with your assessment of Japanese teams, however. They are far more attractive to watch than A League teams, as is their national team versus our pedestrian journeymen.
I have to say though, that the idea that Mike seems to be lauding, of a kid going home and completing 1000 wall passes because the coach told him so, strikes me as appalling. Once again we come back the fact that some people have football way out of perspective.
This is a very confused article from Mike T. It verges on flippant, and while there are good points in there, I think he needed to clarify his line of thought before publishing.

Japan is the template, but does our football culture allow us to follow it?

So you are seriously suggesting that Japanese footballers “can’t think for the themselves”.

Franko, you really do need to engage your brain before you type. Just think about what you are saying there, how nonsensical it is, and how offensive.

Japan is the template, but does our football culture allow us to follow it?

I don’t come to the site very often now, but this article is outstanding. More of this ilk, please!
I haven’t completely lost the faith, but certainly the game appears to be trying a Book of Job job on its true believers.
I am only really certain of one thing that MUST happen. The salary cap must go. It has failed dismally. We have to join the global football free market. The big clubs must be allowed to put the lie to the idea, widely held, that this is fifth rate league. Yes, the spend will be uneven, but is the system working for CCM, for example? The money will still be there, assuming a tv deal exists, for the smaller clubs to assemble professional squads, and they will necessarily have to become better at identifying and developing young talent.
Until our clubs can spend what they need to raise the standard of football, the public profile of the League, and spend to genuinely complete in Asia, the elite game here will never progress beyond the current hand to mouth existence.
Nick raises the issue of the changing cultural landscape. Personally, I would have been utterly dismayed if my sons had chosen football over education. We’re a middle class culture and how many parents would prioritise football over education? Could there be a riskier move than betting everything on a 13 year old turning into a high class professional footballer? There is so much talk on these forums about developing players at 5 or 6; but even at 13 it is hard to say how an athlete will turn out as a body changes. And I’ve seen so many parents and young players burned out completely by elite youth development, the pleasure of the game destroyed for both. Because that is what is – a game. But my word, the misdirected veneration from some people… I look at people like Foster and Slater and co and I often wonder, don’t they get bored? How many games of football can you watch?
The most talented player I coached – an outstanding champion sprinter who had all the moves at 15 of a class winger, including a ferocious shot and flawless Cruyff turn, is now finishing an engineering degree. He gave up football at 17. He just wasn’t interested any more.
That’s the problem. It isn’t just that our footballers are drawn from the same pool as AFL, Union and NRL and cricket etc – it’s that the pool is even smaller, limited to those who don’t have many other options, and that is more the case now than ever before.
Which is why so many players come to Europe from Africa and South America. Places where football is the only option, regardless of your intelligence and capacity to reach for something more substantial than chasing a ball around a square of grass.

New football is beginning to resemble old soccer

I not only know what I do for a living, but I also know what you do for a living: nothing. You can’t possibly be employed and spend the amount of time you do on these threads. Your alleged law degree and business consultancies are clearly fictions. Over the years you have made one utterly absurd and baseless claim after another, a list of which have been displayed recently by other posters.
Do you honestly think that reading these reports gives you any insight into the operational realities of television networks? Your naivety is astounding. To lump Netflix, Foxtel and Optus into one group only demonstrates the depth of your ignorance.
You are, in the end, nothing but a noxious blend of hot air and narcissism.

Australia's Asian Cup defence comes to a bitter end

I long ago concluded that you were nothing that that you said you were, and your track record, in terms of the absurd statements you have posted over time, proven has they have been time after time to lack any basis in fact, means your credibility is zero.
Once again here, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Australia's Asian Cup defence comes to a bitter end

So we’re right into denialist territory. Memberships don’t mean anything.
The most important metrics is ratings. They are commercially disastrous.
Then there’s attendances. Have you been watching them lately? They are alarming. There is a real chance of a sub 10k average for this season. They will certainly demonstrate a 6th consecutive season fall in average.
The worst thing we can do at the moment is pretend this is acceptable. It isn’t. People have to understand that the A League is in an existential crisis.
Memberships count for exactly nothing in terms of the next ten deal upon which the competition depends. Ratings are all that matter.
We need an independent A League, the salary cap gone, and 4 more teams. Do we have the time needed? I sure hope so, but it’s going to be close run thing.

Australia's Asian Cup defence comes to a bitter end

Good grief, LH. I am watching and I don’t have agenda.

You’re the football equivalent of climate change denialist. That’s your prerogative, but the figures are unequivocal.

Saying it isn’t so doesn’t change anything.

Australia's Asian Cup defence comes to a bitter end

StuM is absolutely on the money. This is where we are at the moment. To paraphrase, our top players lack quality (even Rogic) our national pro competition is low quality, and our governing body is incompetent. I would add to this that we have a demonstrably failing youth development system.
The latest ratings are a glaring warning light that the A League will lose anything close to a sustainable tv deal when the current deal runs out. More concerning is what attendances and ratings, particularly, indicate – and that is that the broader group of supporters is giving up on the A League. Now the national team is non achieving embarrassment too.
The code is, quite literally, disintegrating in real time in front of our very eyes. This is not an alarmist perspective. This cold, hard realism based on the metrics of attendances and ratings.
It will take unprecedented intervention from club owners in an independent A League to reverse the trend. Nemesis believes this will happen, and he may be right – I hope so. But I worry that this is still at least one more season away, and another season like this may completely kill off the A League, because we now in the territory of 20 and sub 20K ratings, and surely there must be a tipping point beyond which recovery is all but impossible.
This season has been a perfect storm. Unrelenting heat, sustained non performance from the bottom 4 clubs, who are playing almost unwatchable football at times (so are Melbourne City, mind you), the League’s one marquee crocked, a top 6 locked in at the half way point, the new FFA board dashing hopes of improved performance with the Stajcic debacle, then a dismal performance from the national team. It is hardly surprising that only the most hard core fans are staying engaged. There is quite simply nothing to get excited about. I will venture that the only A League team consistently playing football that can be deemed both entertaining and high quality is Melbourne Victory. One team – that’s a personal view, but its from a watcher not at all fond of Melbourne Victory.
The situation really could not be worse.

Australia's Asian Cup defence comes to a bitter end

I haven’t watched FTA tv for more than a decade. Before streaming services, I controlled my own programming through DVDs and BluRay. FTA TV is, with some exceptions on SBS and ABC, mindless drivel.

Your faith that club owners “know exactly what is required to grow the competition” is touching in it’s guileless naivety, but I hope you are right. I have no idea, however, as to how you can reach this conclusion with such confidence.

FFA's actions make it seem like they've got something to hide

At least it’s taken the attention off the appalling ratings and plummeting attendances of the A League. Unfortunately, Fox will not have been distracted. The value of the A League is in free fall.

FFA's actions make it seem like they've got something to hide

One thing Gallop isn’t hiding is his utter incompetence

FFA's actions make it seem like they've got something to hide

So it would seem, MF. As a former defender myself, I would also suggest that defenders can offer particularly useful insights into crafting the attacking side of the game.

Kevin Muscat and Mark Rudan have put Australia's coaching potential on centre stage

And I see John Aloisi is already back on the box offering his expert views on everything to do with game, despite having been proven to know nothing worth knowing as a coach. Less that zero cred. Just goes to show the Roos old boys club is alive and well at Fox.

Leckie on the spot to fire Aussies to Asian Cup quarters

Surely the McClaren experiment is done and dusted now.

Leckie on the spot to fire Aussies to Asian Cup quarters

In an absolutely dire year for football in this country, FFA just found a way to make it worse.
I despair of the capacity of the code to make any progress in this country.
The new board must make a statement and replace Gallop. There must be a substantive and demonstrable break with the past, and that line must be drawn as soon as possible.

How can we trust the FFA to do the right thing?

I firmly believe that the change that must happen now for the game to move on is for Gallop to go.

He is now indelibly associated with years of declining performance across all his beloved metrics, and he has no credibility in the football world.

It certainly obvious why he was so unloved by the NRL.

How can we trust the FFA to do the right thing?

K, the hard thing is how to change the situation.
* Expansion too late and far too little is part of the problem – partly but not adequately addressed.
*FFA control of the A League part of the problem – partly but not adequately addressed
* clubs playing out of wildly inappropriate stadiums with no control over events or scheduling – not dealt with at all
* salary cap preventing any kind of football excellence – not dealt with at all
* a ridiculously unbalanced fixture list – not dealt with at all
* too many fixtures with unsuitable times to suit tv, and with no thought to spectators or players, or the standard of football – not dealt with at all
* climate change – yep, we need to talk about this. Summers are getting hotter and less football friendly and will become more so – not even being discussed
* competition perceived as fourth rate at best – salary cap still there so not being dealt with at all. I wish I could say the competition is better than this, but this season I’m afraid it isn’t.
* ratings mean that there will be no tv deal when this one expires – a bigger comp, independent A League, the end of the salary cap could change this. Happening but much, much too slowly. There will be glaciers that disappear before all this happens, if it does. And the competition may very well go with them, because no tv money means no A League.
* attendances are going into free fall as we move into the second half of the season. We are in for another season below the last, no matter what the deniers like Fadida say.
I love the game. I’ve played, watched and coached it all my life. But the A League is in deep, deep trouble. It cannot continue without TV money, and hardly anyone is watching, and those still watching are leaving, if the stats are accurate, at an alarming rate.
If Foxtel does renew, which I doubt on current figures, then commercial logic suggests an offer no more than half the value of the current deal.
Which leaves only one hope, quite literally one hope – that Optus packages the A League with the EPL. But the problem here is that Optus aren’t a broadcaster. They buy the EPL already packaged. They can’t do that with the A League, so how does that work?

Matildas coach Alen Stajcic sacked, five months before World Cup

I can only say that they must have had very strong grounds to take this action.
Elite football in this country is such a mess right now. Has there ever been a less engaging A League season? Completely devoid of anything approaching a compelling narrative. I’m pinning my hopes on next season, but right now, I don’t think many people understand that the A League’s TV money is about to leave the room.
We need Arnie and the Roos to give the Asian Cup a red hot go to salvage something positive.

Matildas coach Alen Stajcic sacked, five months before World Cup

And what does it say about you that you consistently make these kind of abusive posts? Do you wake up every day so unhappy and angry at the world that you need to engage in this kind of behaviour at your selected targets? By the way, I’ve just lodged a report about this post and your serial offending. You lower the tone of every thread in which you appear with this kind of post and, frankly, I think something needs to be done about it.

Whatever happened to supporting your team no matter what?

Why does the Den need to lift its game? Why does the Den – collectively or as individuals – owe the club anything?

Whatever happened to supporting your team no matter what?

Really, Mike – “you are the problem”?
It’s a football club just over a decade old, not a religion. And if you are suggesting that we somehow should somehow graft on European football tribalism – not possible anyway, given that it is grounded variously in regionality, ethnicity and religion, amongst other factors, and has take hundreds of years to develop – then those are old world archaisms that I, for one, am grateful to do without.
Here’s some friendly advice, to borrow a phrase (have we segued somehow into The Sopranos?) – don’t apply values belonging to very different cultural contexts to Australian clubs that have only been in existence barely more than a decade. They simply do not apply.
I suggest, in fact, that the entitlement belongs to the clubs, like Brisbane under Aloisi, who serve up garbage and expect people to keep on turning up, expensively.

Whatever happened to supporting your team no matter what?

Good grief, Rick, I really do suggest you hold back on the Back-of-a- Wheatbix pack analysis of Japanese culture and, by corollary, their football.

Socceroos defeat Palestine 3-0, Sainsbury suspended

This is definitely the best team Arnold can put on the park at the moment, though I would prefer Giannou to McClaren any day of the week.

Syria will be interesting – a much sterner test, with pressure to capture at least a point.

Socceroos defeat Palestine 3-0, Sainsbury suspended

He wrote “no names” not “tin pot confederation”. You are deliberately misquoting to distort the argument. His points are perfectly valid. I don’t understand why you have to allow personal red mist to colour your contributions so often.

It's time the Socceroos did their talking on the pitch

Arnold is indeed displaying a worrying tendency to discharge tired platitudes. And yes, Mike, agree that expectations need to be tempered – but my word this is dull Roos team desperately lacking in genuine quality.

It's time the Socceroos did their talking on the pitch