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There really is only one question for me now – how David Gallop still has his job?

Surely there can be no other industry on earth that would keep on a CEO who has presided over a disaster of this magnitude.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

JB, you’ve been around long enough to know that this is much, much easier said that done. This is now a long term trend that has reached a critical point. It will take years of marketing and a significant improvement in squad strength and therefore on park football to undo the damage the last couple of seasons have done.

You also neglect the critical factor – the tv audience for the networks that pay the bills. Attendance, as the NRL shows, is a poor second, and here is where the damage is and it will take three good years – at least – to claw back lost ground.

Yes, this can be done, but not with FFA involved and not with the state feds extorting the revenues the competition raises.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

But did they? How solid were those bids? Sorry, Fad, I’m skeptical. I think there were a lot of expressions of interest, and not much actual ponying up.
Why do I believe that? Because FFA green lit Western United, a desperately flawed bid.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

This!

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

Representative enough for Fox, and that is the only answer that matters.
Can’t you see how futile it is to try and argue that somehow, alone of all the codes, football fans have switched en masse to Kayo?
Worse than futile – this so called argument deflects from the seriousness of the situation.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

My understanding – and this may not be correct – is not necessarily, because all parties have to agree on the terms of separation, and there appear to be deep divisions within the group.
So there is the potential for open ended delays, when immediate implementation is essential. We are, quite literally, talking about saving the A League.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

I have done and agree. They are lethal.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

The ratings this weekend were end of competition level. 10k for the WSW game, and 25 for SFC/MV. 8000 average at the gate. And the SCG pitch. I honestly believe that this is the lowest point in the A League’s short history.
Forget Kayo. Hanging onto Kayo as a reason for ratings flies in the face of any logic, because we have the figures from AFL and NRL. Yes, there will have been some bleed to the streaming services – I’m one of them. But denying reality serves no useful purpose. In any case, Fox have already made very clear their position.
Surely the state feds can see above self interest and understand that unless they cut the A League free with the income the clubs need, the professional competition will cease to exist at the end of this tv deal. Imagine this trend continuing into next season.
We must have an independent A League from 30 June.

Some smarter decisions can help get the A-League back on track

Unfortunately, Mike, governance will inevitably dominate the discussion until the A League independence issue is resolved.
I personally am alarmed at the current state of play. There seems to be no consensus at all, nor any suggestion that it is possible.
I’ll go so far as to make a prediction that’s unless we have an independent A League by next pre season, the A League metrics will sink to a point where Fox will not offer a new TV deal, and nor will anyone else.
Nikou and his dismayingly incompetent new board are holding the future of the professional game in the country to ransom through their intransigence.
We must have an independent A League and an end to the salary cap.
For some reason this has appeared as a reply to Fad. It isn’t.

When are we going to start talking about the football again?

Can the Roar do so much better than Fowler, though?

Personally, I would be happy with the appointment. The club is so starved of oxygen in Brisbane and at least has the profile to attract some attention.

Admittedly that has nothing to do with coaching ability, but I’m hopeful he will prove the goods. He sure has a massive squad rebuild ahead of him. And JA is being talked about for Adelaide!!! If this is correct, the owners must have a footballing death wish.

When are we going to start talking about the football again?

So here we go again. More of the dog chasing its tail. Round and round and round.
I understand that Mike had to write this piece, but my word football discussion about matters Australian is dull and repetitive at the moment.
Work looks so much more attractive.

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

Personally I have no concerns over SW Sydney being a success, apart from the fact that I would like to see them in next season, like Western.

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As per my comment above, I don’t understand the hating on this. MF is a lucid, thoughtful and informed poster in my view.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Thanks Punter.
I accept that I have been in a bit of a loop in my comments, and will not repeat again!
Not sure why MF cops so much flak. He’s a lucid and informed commentator on football issues.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

The only troll on this thread is anon.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Punter, for what it’s worth, I played state league football, and have coached juniors. There is only one game for me that that’s football. I was at the very first A League game in Brisbane; I was at the first game of Ange’s team’s famous winning run, and I was at the last. I’ve been to all the GFs in Brisbane.

I am devastated by what is happening to the A League. It amazes me that some people can’t see how serious the situation is. How is Gallop still in the job?

But the situation is inescapable and we must face up to it. The chances of Fox offering even half of the current deal are slim. FFA are dragging their feet on an independent A League. The standard of football has, with exceptions, been poor this season, and people are switching off their tvs in droves. So many dull games.

It can be fixed. Lose the cap, bring in SW Sydney next season. Green light 2 more teams for the next season. Give control over the League to the clubs. But it has to happen for next season, otherwise I fear the A League is headed the way of the dinosaurs.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

My understanding was that Fox wanted to retain the EPL but were outpriced by Optus.

Are you sure that wasn’t the case? Because the lack of a formal bid doesn’t necessarily mean they didn’t want to retain the rights. After all, it’s a premium sports product. I can’t see why Fox wouldn’t want to retain it.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

There is nothing, nothing at all, to support your second sentence. Unfortunately.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Jordan, seriously, that doesn’t stand up for a nano second. If it did, we wouldn’t have crisis impending about the next broadcasting deal and the need to fund the A League through tv money.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

The synchronicity is well beyond coincidence, MF.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Perhaps the fact that Fox has withheld the 5 million they promised for an extra team simply because Western United’s name does not include “Melbourne” should tell you something about how Fox sees the A League as a commercial proposition.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Definitely. Therein lies the pinprick of light in the tunnel – that Optus will see a case for pairing the two competitions again.

The problem here is that Optus only buy, package and onsell to subscribers the EPL. And it’s great coverage – I struggle to find time for a full game, and the mini match format is perfect for me.

With A League, Optus would have to either go into partnership with, say, a network would produce the content, or do it themselves. I believe the latter is highly unlikely. Production is not Optus’s business and I really can’t see the company going this way. It’s expensive and highly specialised, and opens them up to a lot more risk. So that leaves a partnership with a broadcaster.

Or, I suppose, there is a third way – that the A League produces its own content and onsells to Optus. Very hard to see this happening, but not impossible if production was subcontracted to a specialist OB company.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

No, David, I don’t think so. Anyway, whatever the expectations are, that’s the benchmark. Very clearly the HAL isn’t meeting expectations because people are walking away in significant numbers.

Make no mistake, on current viewing figures, we will be lucky if Fox offers half the current deal. It’s more likely that they will walk away. It is imperative that the metrics improve next season.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

They do own the A League in a way, JK, because their money is the only reason it exists, and no one else has shown any interest.

How do you expect them to behave? They are investing huge amounts of cash in a product that isn’t even close to justifying the investment and declining in value precipitously.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22

Further to my last comment, I think the League has reached a tipping point, where Fox will decide that it will not offer a new tv deal. I suspect that tipping point may have come with these latest ratings. The seriousness of a situation where a game featuring the A League leaders is outrated by NBL, comfortably by rugby, and by a factor of 14 by NRL cannot be overstated.
Just how far the ratings would need to increase to make the A League commercially viable to a broadcaster I cannot say, but surely 23000 for the League leaders is below that level.
Hardly anyone is watching on the games on television. If FFA drags its heels on an independent A League, they will kill the competition, because empowering the owners to spend the cash needed to save the A League is the only way from here.

Six talking points from A-League Round 22