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Dr Disnick

Roar Guru

Joined October 2013









Did the Editor-in-Chief of Cosmopolitan write the headline?

The tastiest players in the AFL

Macca, in 28 years I have never seen mass rushing to the contest like you have suggested. None of your examples show this and the only single example where this did occur, by ‘one’ player, ended in epic failure.

Go back to he start of the conversation. I said space will be freed up forward of the contest, not at the contest, well before your latest BS about a belated concession.

Now you have been proven wrong on every count by your own silly examples, none more so than your 89 GF effort. Great job on that one!

I’m sure you’ll continue wasting your time, and you may even find a few examples of a single player reaching the contest causing chaos. You have 150+ years of football to draw upon. What you won’t find is mass rushing to the contest, nor it happening on a regular basis but good luck with your little project.

We are done here.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

And they may well still run into the square, despite the new rules. At no stage have I ever said players don’t run into the square to provide options.

What they won’t be doing, and never have, is provide congestion on a regular basis at the contest like that i#d!ot Bews tried doing.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Yes, and none of those extra players were at the contest. I have no idea why you are continuing to prove my point.

I’m not arguing whether players run into the centre square and provide options like in this example. I’m simply saying your ludicrous notion of Usain Bolt speed to the contest just does not occur on a regular basis nor is it effective.

As such, I don’t see this new rule providing any extra space for the followers at the centre bounce like Stevie
J is suggesting.

I do, however, potentially see more space for them to run into should they get free or have more open options up front.

Now you’ve proved me right with your only two examples. You got anymore for me?

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Turn it up, Macca. He was running too fast. The footage is quite clear.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

But I’m not wrong in this instance now am I?

Bews messed up because he was running too fast, just like I said.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Secondly, thanks for making my point as to why teams don’t do this on a regular basis. Watch Mew miss a critical tackle on Bews as he goes flying by due to his uncontrolled excessive speed off his half back line

What results next is a simple clean entry by Bews right down Ablett’s throat.

Game over, Macca.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

No, my English is fine unlike yours.

It could go to exactly where you said or it could go short of the square from a pressured mis kick or somewhere between the 50 and centre square.

AFL coaches coach to the percentages. They always have and always will.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

This is starting to sound like your sample size of two in the JLT series.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Simple maths, Macca. That’s the most likely zone a rushed kick will hit from the followers.

It’s certainly not in the goal square or in the centre square.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

You’ve never played any sport, worked with elite athletes, or any athletes for that matter, have you?

Go out to your nearest sports ground, sprint at full tilt and see how easy it is to pull up or change direction, let alone tackle/enforce pressure at the speed you’re describing. I’m not evening going to worry about the incredible eccentric forces placed on the Hamstring in doing what you think is happening.

Your examples of players sprinting and then changing direction, depending on who wins the contested ball, is equally as ridiculous. I’ve never seen players sprinting at full tilt off the back of the square for these reasons.

Even allowing for 2.5 seconds, this still won’t cause congestion — the ball will either have been won or stifled in this time.

Congestion is when you are already in a position to cause disruption, not 2.5 seconds away sprinting in the hope you will ping a groin in the process or sail right past when you miss that critical tackle due to excessive speed at the contest.

Join the real world, Macca.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Perhaps Cripps decided to have 5 seconds because they didn’t come off the back of the square. You ever think of that?

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Honestly, I can’t see anything in that footage that suggests Cripps had more time or not.

Part of me hopes it doesn’t achieve what the AFL hopes it will because I had no issue with the game before they started f@rting around with it every 5-minutes.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Macca, your first paragraph makes no sense. Mass rushing the centre clearance is mass rushing the centre clearance. What Port did is run corridors off centre of the clearance, ie. providing outside options.

Your second paragraph makes even less sense unless every Port player was Usain Bolt.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

I agree with everything you just said, which is a rarity, Macca. However, it still does not solve Stevie J’s riddle.

Port did exactly what you said but it didn’t result in extra congestion or less space for the followers, rather extra outside running options.

Congestion is when you deliberately run players to the contest à la Paul Roos style. None of the examples you give does this — quite the opposite in fact.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

Who said this?

I’ve never witnessed mass rushing, at the centre clearance, on a regular basis for all the reasons I mentioned below.

It just does not happen.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

I must have been watching a different competition for the past 28 years, Macca.
I’ve never seen a wall of players rushing towards the followers because that would open up the forward lines for each team — something most modern AFL coaches avoid due to a potential of a quick centre clearance. Even the worst of teams, i.e Carlton can achieve this, especially when you have a beast such as Cripps carving it up.
No… I still don’t get it but I’m looking forward to being proven wrong on this one.
What will happen though: any clean ball achieved by the followers will result in more one-on-one targets, coupled with more space to kick into. This is where I expect this new rule to excel at opening up space, not at the coalface like Stevie J is suggesting.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

I’ll rephrase (just for the mods).

How does that result in extra space for the ruck, ruck-rover, rover and centre ‘at’ the centre clearance?

The forwards/wingers have never been able to enter the centre square before a centre bounce, nor can they reach the followers to provide extra congestion in enough time. It’s physically impossible.

Should a stalemate occur at the centre clearance by the followers, resulting in a ball-up, I totally agree that congestion will then occur but this new rule will not stop this either.

I still don’t get it.

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

“The new 6-6-6 starting position rules could give the Demons a big advantage, given there’s going to be a lot more space around centre bounces”

I’ll admit: I have not spent much time following the AFL during the offseason, including the new rule changes but this just doesn’t make sense to me.

Can someone please explain how the new 6-6-6 rule is going to allow for a lot more space, if any, around centre bounces compared to last years, please?

STEVIE J: My top five teams to watch this AFL season

The elephant in the room hasn’t left as far as I’m concerned, and it’s quite pertinent to this conversation. Had Dom Sheed not snatched victory in the dying moments for the WCE, MCG home ground advantage would have once again been a major talking point.


The Cats need to understand that the odds of playing on their home deck, when it counts, is zero to none. Therefore, they have three options:

1. Build another team that can win on all decks
2. Continue using their significant home ground advantage to maintain a finals presence
3. Adjust their game style at Kardinia Park to be versatile and forgiving on the wider expanses of the MCG

Each has its issues.

The Cats 2007-2011 team don’t just come about from good drafting and coaching. They’re a rare thing and something you cannot adequately plan for. Personally, I don’t expect to see such a team again in my lifetime.

Maintaining a finals presence is just basic maths. That and you have to be in it to win it — something the Bulldogs of recent know well and have benefitted from with a Premiership.

Finally, adjusting their game style at home, although possibly increasing their performance during finals, may also result in no finals at all.

Personally, I don’t like how the Cats are playing at present. They just look ugly, and I hate ugly things. The Cats have always adopted an ethos of fast attacking football…well for as long as I can remember anyway.

In many ways, I agree with your sentiment of ‘letting go’ but for different reasons, Cam.


2019 AFL season preview: Geelong Cats

You forgot firewalking.

Are the Adelaide Crows winning the Patrick Dangerfield trade?

None of those previous teams were one kick away from winning either.

The Pies are facing a serious runner-up hoodo

If I had to steal one player for the Cats, it would be Cripps. He’s an animal!
Fyfe is the best: no argument. Cripps will become the best; it’s just a matter of time — ohh… and that little thing called Carlton and whether it will become his permanent handicap.

The Roar AFL Top 50 2019: 10-1

The AFL Dreadnought trained its guns away from League years ago. They are now firmly fixed on soccer…. at the grassroots level. I’m sorry to say, but people like you the AFL has very little interest in.

Make no mistake: this product is not about becoming a commercial success (not in the short term anyway) for the AFL, rather a platform to attack football at its grassroots.

Long term sustained success, at any elite sporting level, requires three critical elements:

1. Opportunity
2. Infrastructure
3. Career Pathway

Smaller playing numbers, a smaller playing surface and less contact opens up opportunity to the masses, especially here in NSW and QLD for a variety of reasons.

Infrastructure becomes instantly available via soccer and league grounds.

Career pathways the AFL already does well, unlike the FFA. In many ways, they have the opposite problem, i.e. the AFL with grassroots opportunity and the FFA with career progression.

The AFL has developed a multifaceted strategy to strengthen its position in all three of these key areas. Couple this with the AFLW and you have an organisation that is looking firmly to the future of the game from bottom to top, which is how it should be done.

The AFLX sure has some work to do

At least you still have your sense of humour.

Let’s see how Bolton’s holds up this year, along with Hinkley, Richardson, and Lyon who all firmly have a blowtorch tickling their backsides.

The Round 1 fixture the AFL got wrong