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I was born in the St-George hospital on 1/5/55.

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No he was a dummy half who never ran the ball. He did play a game for St.George 3rd grade at Kogarah Oval and it was the only time I was happy to see a St.George player knocked unconscious lying on the ground. He bit off more than he could chew. He was the only dirty player in the competition.

The forgotten players: The Newtown Jets

I thought John Raper was a Canterbury junior who played for Newtown. He was very fit and his beautiful low tackling took the energy out of the ball carrier as they always hit the ground hard while Raper jumped up ready for more. Lucky for Saints there was no salary cap or talent cap at the time.

The forgotten players: The Newtown Jets

They often had jobs like a bricky’s labourer or Leagues club barman lifting kegs of beer. Scrums were a contest and front rowers had to be tough. As a junior I got knocked out by a hooker’s loose arm while playing prop and second rower. The perpetrator was not penalised as far as I can remember.

The forgotten players: The Newtown Jets

My younger sister went to Kogarah High when Paul Dawson was there. He was very popular with the girls. I didn’t know he was fast, Reddy and Drake were fast. Harry Eden and Brian Norton were fast front rowers in those days.

The forgotten players: The Newtown Jets

Newtown, like Easts, were shafted by the head of the SRL S.G.Ball, a Souths man, who gave Souths most of the junior clubs in the area and left Easts and Newtown with a few junior clubs each. Souths always boasted that Souths juniors was the biggest club in Sydney. Newtown, like Balmain made the mistake of taking the name of a suburb rather than a district or shire.

The forgotten players: The Newtown Jets

Tries are what we like to see but good defence results in a frustrated attack resorting to the bomb. In US football a field goal is the only scoring option on the last down so a punt is the only option if they’re too far from goal. The bomb also encourages safe play for the first five tackles because the bomb is the best hope for scoring a try.

The good and the bad of the NRL's rule changes

I’m surprised the one point field goal has not been utilised just to keep points ticking over or present a psychological advantage. You get a point and the ball back from the kick-off for another set of six. Given field goals were changed to one point due to overuse they may become popular again but that would make a good change from the ever present bomb. It’s good value as you get two points and the ball back from the kick-off

The good and the bad of the NRL's rule changes

The two point field goal adds another sixth tackle option. Like the one point field goal it is an alternative to the bomb. I am surprised the field goal isn’t used more often as a way of getting a minor reward of one point and a new set of six from the kick off. Maybe the two point field goal will be an incentive to getting a minor reward of two points and a new set of six from the kick off.

What exactly is the field goal change designed to achieve?

As there are new results that come with Golden Point there should be a corresponding change in the ranking. There are just two more results that need to be allocated a score. The 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 is the simplest solution. It is wrong to give a team that has drawn at full-time the same points as a team that has won. It is a system fault that should be corrected.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

When I say Golden Point isn’t fair I mean it isn’t fair to other teams that win games in the eighty minutes. You may like Golden Point but if your team missed out on the finals because of it you would not. Gallop was mislead by fans who were disappointed after a draw and told him they would’ve preferred a result. I find it hard to believe that any fan would prefer their team lose than draw. Would you prefer to lose than draw?

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

For a team to win a game they had to score more points than their opponents, it was a draw if scores were equal and it was a loss if they scored less. A golden point win is not a real win it is a draw with the game extended until one team scores. Why should a team who doesn’t win get as many points as a team who does win? It makes sense to award more points for a win than a Golden Point win which is awarded with more than a draw. Why should a team that doesn’t win in the normal time get the same rewards as a team that does win?

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

“A win’s a win, whether the winning point was scored in minute one, minute eighty, or minute eighty-five.” … No, A win in the eighty-sixth minute is a Golden Point win. It is clearly not the same as a real win so Golden Point winners should not receive the same reward.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

I don’t want to complicate the points table, I want it to show each team record as it has been done since 1908. When Golden Point was added there was no change in the table as a Golden Point win was worth the same as a real win. I proposed adding a Golden Point win and loss because a Golden Point win should not be worth as much as a real win but more than a draw. It’s a matter of displaying correct information in the points table by adding two extra columns. We don’t need to follow the USA in matters of football.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

The field goal was changed to one point in 1971 because everyone was kicking them as tries were only three points. I don’t recall any being kicked from forty metres out but it was a long time ago. Maybe they’ll change tries to five points and try conversions to one point.

What exactly is the field goal change designed to achieve?

If a team throws a long ball back behind the 40m line the kick had better not miss otherwise the whole team will be offside. There could be some good long distance tries from this two point field goal rule.

What exactly is the field goal change designed to achieve?

I think the ball not going dead from a kick 40 metres out is a risk.

What exactly is the field goal change designed to achieve?

Do they play Golden Point or extra time? What if they are equal after extra time? So you would prefer less information such as {Team, Wins/Played} rather than {Team, Played, Wins, GP Wins, Draws, GP Losses, Losses, For, Against, Points}?
The competition table is to provide information and I don’t see the reason to keep it simple.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

It makes a difference to the table if you get two points for a draw and this win is often decided by the toss of a coin. GP is a sideshow to boost ratings.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

I am using the correct terminology for what I was proposing. That is five results, Win, GP win, draw, GP loss & loss. They are clearly different and it is a change to correct a fault, a very good reason to change. It does make a difference to the table if you get winning points for a draw or get zero points for a draw. Gallop gave us Golden Point because he spoke to a few fans who sold him some rubbish about how they would prefer to lose than draw. Maybe PVL spoke to the same jokers.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

The difference is the second sort key and it rewards big wins. Golden Point has redefined a draw but it only happens when scores are equal at full time. I made the point that this is not a change in the rules of the game as it’s only changing the points for a golden point win as opposed to a real winner as it has been for decades.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

Fremantle & Port Adelaide weren’t expansions they’re the most successful clubs in the WAFL and SANFL? They’re what the 2nd Brisbane team should look like. Add Perth and Adelaide and add two Queensland teams and have 19 rounds. Call SA and NT Central Australia to include the NT League.

'Tis the season to be silly: Let's talk NRL expansion

Well six is a perfect number but it would be better to make the bye worth six points.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

That would be good, a golden period replacing golden point. Golden Point’s greatest weakness is that the winner of the toss usually gets the first kick at goal. I proposed changing competition points because it is a small change and could be made without any changes to the game but your golden period could take off as it removes Golden Point’s greatest weakness.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

Ok, why shouldn’t a team that wins get more competition points than a team who scores no more or less than the opposition at the end of 80 minutes according to the official timekeeper and has a golden point win in GP? A draw was a draw a long time before the Gallop era.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points

There is clearly a difference. A real win deserves more points than a fancy named draw.

Fool's gold: The NRL must change its competition points