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Although in a normal distribution, the median will always equal the mean (or average).

AFL Trades: Jeremy Cameron to Geelong will be a history-maker

Ditch the NT position for a club gig in the K-League?
Frustration at international football being off the agenda might have something to do with it, or, maybe he is sniffing the wind with the current position of the FFA post-COVID?

Reports: Arnold may ditch Socceroos to coach in Korea

Newcastle is the cradle of Australian Football, and it’s important it remains in the A-League.
Unfortunately, it’s absolutely broke and mired in debt.
Last I heard the FFA was sifting through four offers to buy the license.
We haven’t heard much more than that.

The Jets cannot become the A-League’s first COVID victim

As an aside, I’d like to use this opportunity to express a particular personal opinion.
I have some stats here which demonstrate just how important it is to Australian Football to have a successful A-League.
You will note that many recent articles on Football on the Roar are about the Premier League and European football, which is fine, we all follow it and enjoy it, but of the 8 most recent articles put up, there is the grand sum of one comment.
Yes, one.
Why is that?
Because the popularity and interest is there, but the distance often means that the emotional attachment can never be as high as following a local club.
We need strong local clubs that people can become attached to.
The decrease in the interest of the A-League over recent years is reflected in ratings, attendances, media attention but also comments here and in 442.
We are at an all time low, and I’m not sure we have reached the bottom, but we need the A-League to get back up on that upwards trajectory, and we’ll know it’s in the right place when we start seeing comments here and 442 return strongly.
A flourishing A-League and interest in such forums go hand in hand.

Robinson jumps ship from Newcastle to take Wanderers top jop

I stand by what I said.
The FFA carried the Victory in the first season since they did not raise the requisite money.
That favour would NOT have been extended to South Melbourne Hellas (an existing club, a real club, with a storied history, Oceania club of the century, but with no love from the FFA).

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

Seems to be gilding the lily a bit to talk up the NRL Chairman, afterall, Eddie McGuire is a club president, so it’s irrelevant what he has to say about it.
What did the AFL Chairman say?
Actually, I have a better question, who is the AFL Chairman?
I don’t even know who it is, probably most of us on here don’t know.
So that’s a big difference between the two Chairmen. Good or bad? Well, I guess it’s in the eye of the beholder.
In the end, all the football codes had to negotiate hair cuts to their broadcast deals.
The NRL Chairman is probably the only Chairman of all the football codes to take a direct role.
Good or bad?
Well, that’s in the eye of the beholder.
A better question might be: why does the NRL Chairman see the need to immerse himself in the running of the game, way, way beyond the level of what is normally expected of a Chairman?

Have the NRL’s critics finished wiping egg off their faces?

To this day I find it extraordinary that a governing body would willingly ditch the club which has won the most premeirships in its history, and in the case of Souths, it was a massive haul. At one point in the history of the NSWRL, Souths had one about one third of all available premierships.

Super League revisited: The final what ifs

The Jets are broke (and that’s before the prospect of another COVID impacted season on the horizon).
The FFA is currently sifting through offers from four prospective buyers.
Hopefully there is one solid one in there.
They will need very deep pockets.

Robinson jumps ship from Newcastle to take Wanderers top jop

It was just a name change.
It was the exact same entity.
The ASF wasn’t placed into liquidation to establish SA, which DID happen to SA when the FFA was established.
That being the case, not sure which bit is misleading.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

BB
Well, yes and no.
Let’s not forget that the golden generation, which all came from the NSL era (even if a few never played in the NSL) all happened under the hopeless, pathetic, bankrupt tutelage of Soccer Australia.
We might all complain about the present day FFA, board, chair and CEO, but I tell you this, nothing can compare with how weak and pathetic Soccer Australia was in its final 15 years or so.
And yet…
Never before had our U20s and U17s been so strong on the world stage. At one point, each was ranked no. 4 in the world for performances at their respective WCs.
Even the Olyroos made the final four in 1988, and who can forget the heroics of Ned Zelic in getting us past a strong Dutch team away from home to qualify for the next olympics ony a few years later.
After being able to follow the exploits of the socceroos for over 40 years, and our underage teams, the improvement in the Matildas, the exploits of our great socceroos internationally, it occurs to me.
The quality of administration at the national level appears to have very little to do with anything.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

JB
It is impossible to make the case that Lowy did not have it in for the ethnic clubs, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Let us not forget that even the mighty Victory was short of the necessary starting capital figure, the FFA had to carry them financially for at least one full season.
The key point here is that that favour was never, ever going to be extended to Hellas.
The ethnic clubs were not wanted, full stop.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

“There are whispers of de Marigny’s disappointment at the pool of money available to him for short-term recruitment…”

Wherever the truth is, one thing is for sure, most of the clubs are flat broke, and things are about to get worse if COVID continues into 2021. That’s just the way things are at the moment.

Therefore, in all likelihood, the odds are slim that the Wanderers have found a more qualified coach and are about to splash the cash. There is no cash to splash.

Wanderers mysteriously move on Jean-Paul de Marigny as pre-season looms

So yes, Lowy had political backing.
So yes, Lowy was given tens of millions of dollars of government money to clear all debts (which means it’s completely irrelevant that the NSL was bankrupt).
Most importantly, Lowy was given carte blanche to do whatever he wanted to do.
He wanted the ethnic clubs out, and he created the conditions to ensure that the ethnic clubs were out.
And guess what?
They have been out ever since.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

The FFA did run with a racist policy that was clearly designed to put certain ethnic clubs back in their box.
So yeh, I would definitely use the word “dumped”.
Here is another way to look at it.
Why was it even necessary to scrap the national league and start again (with a one year gap mind you)?
Afterall, Lowy received tens of millions of dollars in government money to pay out all liabilities, so that means there were many options in terms of resurrecting a national league.
Let us not beat around the bush here: the new regime wanted ethnic clubs out.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

Punter
Interesting observation.
It’s notable how often someone making the point you are making continuously refers back to that one goal (was it against Serbia? even Holman was able to score against Serbia next WC! 🙂
You can offer up Spain.
And I can offer up their opponent in the 2010 WC, in what was an ugly and brutal game, but they did push Spain for almost 2 hours before they scored the winning goal.
Still, I guess the best team won.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

Johan
Back in the 70s, only 16 countries made the WC, increased to 24 in 1982 to 1990, but that was still a small number given the number of quality countries who were missing out on a WC berth.
So no, it was not a national humiliation that we didn’t qualify for the WC, it was a very difficult thing to do.
In fact, getting past Uruguay in 2005 was pretty close to a miracle (indeed, required a couple of miracle saves from Schwarzer).
As for the European diaspora, well, they have aged!
Out mix of immigration is very different these days, the bulk do not place much importance on sport.
Back in the 50s and 60s immigrants from Europe established 100s of clubs around Australia, and for the most part, football was at the heart of the club. Near where I live, once upon a time there would have been at least a dozen European clubs within a 25km radius, but today, only one or two are left.
Since around 1980, it’s hard to think of a single well known football club which was established by recently arrived immigrants, certainly none in the top tiers of state football.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

Throw in these names as well:
Brett Emerton (was playing with Blackburn)
Jason Culina (was playing with PSV)

and what about our second keeper, Kalac, playing with AC Milan no less!
Outside the best XI we even had Luke Wilkshire, playing with Twente. and Joshua Kennedy on the bench (playing with Nurnberg).

And don’t forget, one or our very best, Paul Okon, had only retired from the NT a couple of years earlier (played for two clubs in the Serie A), and Ned Zelic had retired about 5 years earlier as well (playing Bundesliga).

Unbelievable really, can barely be imagined today.

Note this: about 8 of our socceroos were of Croatian descent, and had come through the ranks of the Croatian clubs in the NSL (and also lower tier clubs). In fact, at least one of the Croatian NT players of the same tournament had come through an Australian-Croatian club.

This is no coincidence. With these ethnic clubs, we had the very, very best nursery imaginable. Good footballing cultures, an abundance of people who understood the game and who cared about the game.

With the scrapping of Soccer Australia and the NSL, and the shunning of the ethnic clubs, we have effectively destroyed this nursery. Replaced by fantasies of curricula, coaching certificates, private academies, profit seekers, etc.

Fool’s gold.

From golden generation to lost generation: What went wrong with football in Australia?

Good question.
Possible answers:
1. If it’s good coin, they would have wanted it to be on the quiet during the CBA negotiations.
2. If it”s not good coin, or below par, they may not want that known either.

Australian football edges towards the 'new normal' while the EPL goes bonkers!

Good point, I think you’re right that we can expect to see very young squads for the next two seasons.

Australian football edges towards the 'new normal' while the EPL goes bonkers!

It’s a worry, for all sports.
I can see the owners’ perspective. Their annual dividend will be slashed because of the drop in broadcast revenue, sponsorship revenue will have dried up, so they really need match day revenue, and that means having crowds at games.
They cannot afford to have a full season with no crowds.
As it is, the A-League clubs were quite fortunate because during the most recent season, only about one quarter of its season was affected by closed stadiums.

Australian football edges towards the 'new normal' while the EPL goes bonkers!

Much uncertainty surrounds the forthcoming season.
Last I heard, the owners don’t want to start the season until they can be guaranteed that crowds will be allowed back into grounds.
The owners have won themselves some flexibility by ensuring player contracts for next season only run for 9 months rather than 12 months.

Australian football edges towards the 'new normal' while the EPL goes bonkers!

There might have been some bullying on the part of the broadcaster (soon to be ex-broadcaster), but there is little doubt in my mind that Macarthur has a greater chance of success than a team from Canberra or Tassie.
In any event, it’s the system which chooses the new teams which we should reject (selling licenses to the highest bidders).
It’s not about whether a team of Canberra or Tassie should be in the comp, the real question is: why can’t clubs from Canberra and Tassie have an opportunity to work their way up to the top tier?

The A-League’s newest derby: Bulls and Mariners

Well, if initially it’s half the support, that ain’t bad.

The A-League’s newest derby: Bulls and Mariners

When I read the article’s title, I initially thought: hmmm, not sure about that, but then the author reminds us of the history of the two coaches involved.
So well played to the author!
I wish to publicly proclaim that I will be supporting Macarthur from next season.
As for the “strikingly white number”, I’m 50/50 about it.
I’m sure it will grow on me.

The A-League’s newest derby: Bulls and Mariners

I have to admit, my first thought was that the Wanderers would be their main rival, especially since they lobbied to NOT have a team in SW Sydney.
In fact, I would go a step further: this will end up being the biggest rivalry in the A-League over time.

The A-League’s newest derby: Bulls and Mariners