The Roar
The Roar

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A passionate, yet moderate view on all things rugby. "grass is the basis of all rugby" Sometimes ref, sometimes coach, rubbish player and always will believe in the rugby family.

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This is the story that keeps on giving after its given its all. I feel for the pro journo’s who must be as bored with this as I am reading it. But its still here and we are still writing about it. (go Figure) But, on your point will Raelene survive this? Absolutely, she has navigated a pretty course through this so far and I hope she makes it to the end without too much personal damage to her. However, sadly I think Nick Taylor will be calculating his options. I am sure the keyboard warriors are already seething about my comment. But any CEO dealing with type of HR issue would be on the ropes. But my take-outs are, RA has been seen in a more positive light than negative through this whole affair. No press are out there screaming for RC head (I EXCLUDE ALAN JONES ALWAYS).
My read is she tried to handle the issue with understanding the first time and received acknowledgement that all was good. Contract issues, I just don’t know what really did happen etc so lets not speculate. Then after assurances the issue re-occurs and RC is painted into a pretty tight spot. No winners from this point forward only dignity and scars. To be fair Raelene has treated IF with dignity and RA public and sponsors as such. There is an issue which is being dealt with the best way possible. Ideally, IF should have come back into the fold, but that looks like its not possible, so settlement is the only answer, out of court preferably. I saw RC the other day leaving RA, she has worries and plenty of them, but I felt she was growing into her role. So would I give her a pass mark? For the Issie issue 8/10. So lets get back to the RWC topics like who who in the Rugby Camp Zoo! Cheika, Johnson, O’connor 4 x 10’s, 3×15’s, Is Kurtley our man???? I just want to get excited so can we move on?

Will Raelene Castle survive the Folau scandal?

AG Don’t agree about your first line but do think he could show himself in a better light. So basically we are not too far apart 😉

Is there any clean way out for Rugby Australia?

Wax I get that line of thought. Now put yourself in the position of IF. On a 1 million per year, life’s great, the world great and then WTF its not now, what happened? Some guy who I don’t know, hates me! Why what did I say? I am a horrible person now,??? Why what has changed I give 100K away to church and charity I love all like God says.
Now someone wants all this gone (my life) and the smart people (who I paid to make sure it all stays good) say they are wrong don’t worry we will sort it.
Sorry mate for the colourful response, but it’s just not one person. To be clear most lawyers want to go to court cause that’s what they do. Issy will just take their advice. Probably the problem in the first place. But let’s not excuse him. His is an adult and that’s the gig we all have.

Is there any clean way out for Rugby Australia?

JJ-D I consider my article balanced and objective. Don’t believe that Issy is a dangerous mind unlike some of the vitrole I see/read on social media. But I do think that he has kick a bee hive down the street naively. Resulting in the angry crowd crowing for blood. Little if any improvement in the whole situation will come from this.

Is there any clean way out for Rugby Australia?

RR thanks for adding to the discussion. My small interactions with IF would definitely support Humble and Considerate and Uncomplicated. Unfortunately his life is extremely complicated as a high profile Rugby Player/Preacher/Brand Ambassador/Money Machine and although I believe his intentions are by his measure thought to be good. He has tripped up (twice) causing a bunch of others to react in ways he could have never imagined. I get this. My challenge is how does one find their way through this maze.

Is there any clean way out for Rugby Australia?

Turn it down Reedy! the players only ever cheat on the edges. Close that out and then they will move onto something else. Maybe even playing rugby.

Thomas du Toit’s yellow card was spot on and there should be more of them

Geoff, Good to read the mind is still active on this topic. My utopian plan has the angle of the clubs in capital cities being allowed to become successful by keeping the focus on tribalism and finding ways to get money into their world. Sydney Uni leads the pack with Warringah Rats developing quickly. As these guys hit their optimum, then the Draft begins and feeder club networks so player call up options can be sorted out and players find their way to Two Blue and West Harbour. This is essential to get the western sydney and the newcastle and illawarra regions working.”Worthy of Noting” that a number of the Sydney Premier clubs have large stocks of colts who they struggle to find game time for and the Subbies comp admins prefer they sit out rather than play feeder structures sort this stuff out. Net result – we lose players at a key time. Following on, I do like the idea of a shortish Shute Shield and a knockout comp following. Open to all clubs (country wide)aka FA Cup Style comp.

The Wrap: Is Rugby Australia about to kill off the NRC, and if so, what happens next?

Brett McKay, for an ugly game of Rugby the contest was there. Rebels need to have a real naval gaze about dominance at the breakdown and illegal play. Every team does it to some extent, its pretty much how you win the game on the ground. But the Rebels are not adapting and learning how to turn off the over competitive (naughty) play. If they fix that then they could go really close to a GF.

Discipline the only thing that will prevent a Rebels’ Australian conference title

Geoff, not so confident on the Foley V Cooper contest. Given Foley’s F/Us in the first half at test level the game would have gone to God! So to speak. One intercept, as good as it was in not the way to judge a player.

The greazy conditions and both teams inability to adapt was my real concern. The only real take home point for me was the Rebels are being to involved in the contest beyond the clinical thought process giving away too many cheap penalties and meters because of it. Wessels who has been the best coach this year has to manage this facet of the Rebels game.

For me, the best contest was in the Hookers with Fitzpatrick throwing well all night and holding together a pretty good scrum. Rangi didn’t seem to forge his usual dominance and lost a couple of lineouts.

On the side bar, Banjo Travis, Sydney Uni’s 1st grade halfback played a cracker game with accurate flat and fast passing off the deck in Uni’s belting of the Warringah (50-0). Jake Gordon was there to watch, his Uni team play and must be thinking life is pretty competitive up and down the Rugby ladder.

The Wrap: Foley TKOs Cooper as Australian conference tightens up

With hindsight! I hope he gets tonsillitis every week if that’s how he plays!

Foley says Folau is hurting the Waratahs

Sacking will be tricky. Next week the code of conduct people have there say and they will make a recommendation that will be at least the next week after that. RA will then suggest to IF resigning is a better way to go. His lawyer will say court please what you got to loose. Six months with a court result or a settlement in 4 months I guess

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

I found Kafers public statements bizarre. I thought he was an RA employees amongst other things. I cannot see how he has managed to enhance the game. I get all the exwallaby commentary but he should be sitting on his hands on this. His mine field of fox and ra is hard to understand

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Tad tough on RC and labeling her is close to hate speech. But I do agree there is a lot of keyboard warrior stuff. Cool heads need to prevail. Would like you to offer a possible solution?

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Personally I have a special place in my support for the convicts over many years. No more than one day last year when playing a Div 6 game they told me that they are more than happy to have straight players because to be inclusive is to be inclusive! That is just so impressive! But we all agree that Izzy has not been good with this style of call out. He is not calling ng on mass bashing’s or death etc. So keep it in perspective, but that still does not make it ok. In a perfect world we want him being more inclusive and scoring tries at the RWC. My challenge to Roarers is to find out how to get there!

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Andys I run a company and in my day I often feel like I am all of the above. Leaders of people/ company’s need to be humans as they manage many humans working together. It’s dynamic and challenging, especially if you want them to want to work for you organisation.

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Folau has not been sacked and I guess he won’t. But that does not mean he gets off scott free with a pat on the head and a promise to be good. Rather RC has to hold the line with the playing roster and not break the law so RA does not get sued and maximise Australia’s chances at the work cup. I bet Cheika’s not saying that Issy is not in the reconning for the RWC squad.

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Drew the author used the title as a play on the rugby family something in my time in rugby I hold close. Have played in a number of countries (poorly as a amateur) rugby has been welcoming in every respect. The CEO for Australia is the head of that family! RC has been pretty good in dealing with this issue so far. I would like to back her to get this right. But could you find a way outa this impass?

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Sure, say the tough stuff and I believe terms of his contract were breached. I don’t know his contract details so I am speculating. But we all know this the point is …. if you think the team would be better for him being in the squad than out? My test for this is if you wrote a team from one to 15 of prospective Wallabies a month ago would Izzy had been there? 95% of rugby smarts would of had him in the team somewhere. That means he is a player of value and we have an issue with him. So which way forward from now?

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Fionn what inspirational means is that he is driven by beliefs outside of just wanting to be a pro footballer. He is both, but what drives him as a person would be his relationship with his religion and God. The issue at the moment is all based on a literal view from the bible that gets him trouble. But he calls on his beliefs to play the Rugby at the level he does. Fundamentally you would have your core beliefs and why you played the game. For most of us they don’t link up. Me, I played because of my mates and beer! But my core beliefs are not those. It’s common for inspirational players to see there rugby as an extension of their beliefs. It’s what makes them special.

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Figuratively speaking

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

I would have thought RC end game is to keep Issy and smooth over the issues and win the RWC. I am unsure how not having IF improves the circumstances

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Inspirational is Issy’s profile. Recognise that and if you want to judge the treat that as separate

Raelene needs to be a mum and look after her kids

Wessels humility about the Moon Doggies face off is truly a beautiful thing. It sets the tone for the team and fans that they are no easy beats. (BTW WE ALL KNOW THAT BY NOW ANYWAY) Rebs have chosen to go for their strongest team for two reasons. 1: belting the Moon Doggies produces a solid 5 points which puts them in a really strong position on the SR ladder. 2: Another win on the trot for team building into the middle of the season will make it easier for the run home to the quarter finals plus give the fans something to be really excited about. That is something the Horra-tahs have always struggled with and Red and Brumbies can only work towards. If Wessels can get a number of his players into the Wallaby squad, the team will also be a good place for future aspiring players to gravitate towards. All in all, Rebels are on the front foot and going in a direction that can only make RC and her team at RA extremely pleased.

Rebels wary of wounded Super Sunwolves

Coached it for years with great success. You need to create a team that thinks and adapts on field. The spine is the concept of the key players thinking collectively and leading their own groups to act as one.

Halfway to heaven: The Will and Quade show rolls on

Success always breeds stronger connections between players. Rebs have the chemistry set out brewing up the magic potion that’s called winning culture. Hats off to all the mexicans they are doing a great job.

Halfway to heaven: The Will and Quade show rolls on