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Ryan O'Connell

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"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence: in other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell

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Or, a Paine… (boom tish!)

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Oh dear. No comment! (For now . . . I have another piece on the way on Paine!)

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Haha! I’m actually a Paine fan, so that comment could open up a can of worms! And a whole different discussion.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

As I said, it’s an interesting strategy, and if you can bowl a team out so cheaply that you don’t need the runs that 6 frontline batsmen can score, then it has merit.

However, I think it’s too risky and unnecessary. I’m happy to back 3 quicks and Lyon to do the job on Australian wickets, and think only picking 5 bats is just weakening a weakness.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Yep, no arguments there.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

I don’t disagree with that. But after this Ashes series is really the first time that Warner’s position has been under heavy threat/scrutiny (emphasis on ‘heavy’ there). He’s both lucky he survived, but also lucky the players behind him aren’t/weren’t applying much pressure, in the form of mountains of runs.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Well, with a well-argued point like that, I should probably reconsider my view!

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Let’s re-examine and re-post exactly what I said, because it not only answers your questions, but should squash any suggestion that it was ‘bait’.
“However, looking at the scorecard and highlights, the Junction Oval wicket was an absolute road, which unfortunately puts a small asterisk against Harris’ century.
As crazy as it sounds, he probably needed an unbeaten double hundred to gain any real kudos from that game.”

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Five quality bats could arguably do the job of scoring enough runs to win a Test match. Problem is, Australia don’t have 5 at the moment. We have Smith, and maybe Labuschange. So we need to pick at least 6 batsman.

(And no, I wouldn’t be picking Marsh. That’s not what I was/am advocating.)

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Our bowling hasn’t really been an issue, but you think we should pick 5 bowlers, and leave us a batsman short, when runs have been the biggest concern for Australia for some time?

That’s . . . ‘interesting’ . . .

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Yeah, I actually would. I also understand that opinion can be fairly criticised.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

It’s Ryan. Haha! Easy mistake to make!

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

It’s Ryan, not Ronan. Haha! And I think the four spots up for grabs are both openers, number 5, and the third quick.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

If the selectors genuinely feel there is a better option than Warner, short and long term, then by all means pick them. But I don’t think players should be dropped just for their age.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Saying there are holes in an article, but then failing to actually say what they are, followed by the cliched implication that just because you disagree with something that it must be ‘bait’, says more about you than me.

Come on, front up and let’s have an adult discussion about it. I’m willing. Are you? Or are you just another ‘anonymous’ that throws grenades without backing it up or sticking around?

It’s just a conversation about sport, don’t take yourself too seriously!

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

That’s more than fair.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Well, this will be unpopular, but I’d pick Pattinson over Starc.

Since taking 9 wickets against South African in Durban in March, 2018, Starc hasn’t had outstanding returns. He had failed to take more than five wickets in an entire Test until he decimated Sri Lanka in Canberra, taking 10 wickets for the match.

Such lean returns post Sandpaper-gate have the conspiracy theorists a little frisky, and I won’t go that far. But if we’re talking home records, in an injury-plagued career which has seen Pattinson only play 19 Tests, his average on home soil in an impressive 21.8.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Serious question(s): Who is the “in form” player you would pick over Warner? And who is to say Warner only has a “couple of years” left in him?

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

It’s a fair comment, because I am thinking mainly about him getting caught at Third Man twice against India, which really irked me.

But I do get the feeling bowlers enjoy him being in the middle, and that’s never a good thing.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

I’m no Head fan, but I was staggered he was dropped. I thought that was really poor. He’s averaging a very solid 43 runs per innings after 12 Tests.

(However, now that he is dropped, I wouldn’t pick him again just yet. His modes of dismissal really worry me, and confirms my admitted bias that I’m not sure he’s a Test batsman. It’s a harsh opinion, I freely admit, but sometimes you simply just have a good feeling about batsman. I don’t have that with Head.)

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

That’s good intel! I only watched a little bit of his innings, so I will definitely take your word for it.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Yep. I’ve been a long proponent of ‘blooding” youngsters at 6, and we have good record of doing it.

Personally, I’d prefer Wade at 6 and Pucovski at 5, but I wouldn’t die on a mountain arguing about it.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

I’m actually not sure if Warner is “not in great form”, as much as he was simply owned by Broad. He scored heavily in the World Cup, and scored a hundred on Friday, so there’s some runs in there.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Renshaw? He’d need at least 2 hundreds in the next two Shield games to even be in the conversation, let alone be picked.

Not sure I get the “no point persisting with Wade” comment. He’s only 31, and coming off two Ashes hundreds.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

I’m more than happy to pick Pucovski at 5.

I also think the third quick spot is relatively open, though I would go Pattinson.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test