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Adam Hayward

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Media and Journalism student. Sport is life. Growing up, I tried many different sports from Rugby League to Cricket to Tenpin Bowling etc I'm very competitive by nature and a very passionate sports enthusiast. Follow me: Twitter @Hayward_AdamK Instagram: @adam_hayward_sports

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I’ve learned a lot about climate change, let wing-right wing politics, Islam, the difference between cheerleaders and dancers and mushi’s apparent hatred of me lol
In all seriousness though, there’s been some good points made on both sides of the argument. Civil conversations and debates are good for the game, and it’s not a bad thing that people disagree, it’s adds to the discussion. Thanks again

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Maybe cheerleaders can have their own game of footy at half time. Might change some people’s minds on the entertainment value

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

I thought climate change was the reason for cheerleaders being culled… that’s what I got out of it.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Hi Nat,

I can understand your points. I still think too much focus is put on their appearance. Maybe young a girls like the dancing, not just the glamour, maybe both.

Cheerleaders do more than just perform as well, they meet and greet fans, interact and take pics, I still think there’s a place for them in the game and the overall product.

I should have pointed out, that I don’t mind dance crews, that’s a clubs prerogative, but I think the reasons given for culling cheerleaders is wrong and they have painted a poor picture of how they think they’re perceived.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Mushi’s comments are as bizarre as the climate change stuff going on in these replies. I’m not going to get into the nastiness but when it comes to Mushi’s comments, they’re baseless, lack intellectual sophistication and the argument he’s made against me, well the only way I can describe it is unfair and low IQ. If he disagrees with me and my article, a respectful civil counter argument would have sufficed. I’ll just leave it at that.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

“I get it” lol clearly you don’t! Try again next time.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Oh no… you’re on to me and my evil plan that ruined the off season lol

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

I’m not going to pretend to know what appeals to a young girl but do you think young girls would prefer to watch barbie in the 12 dancing princesses or step up? I assume the colourful attire, pompoms and dance style of cheerleaders would appeal

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

That’s what they do up north!

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Spot on. The Cronulla Sharks also do great work with their cheersquad (the Mermaids). They’re professional dancers/athletes and they represent the club in the corporate, community and charity events just as the Cowboys Spirit do.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Thanks Paul. It’s a great way to get girls involved in the game and like the Cowboys, their roles could expand beyond on-field entertainment such as officially representing their clubs etc Darcie McDonald only went to the footy when she was little to watch the cheerleaders, she became captain of the Bulldogs cheersquad and now she’s a rugby league journalist. Cheerleaders are a great way for kids, especially young girls who may not have a great understanding of football, to want to be part of the game.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

That’s merely your opinion and many would probably share your opinion. Many would disagree as well. I think kids, especially girls, enjoy watching the cheerleaders perform and it’s one way to increase female participation in rugby league in all areas. Cheerleaders continue to be, in my opinion, a valuable part of the NRL product. Like Darcie McDonald, she only liked going to the footy for the cheerleaders when she was young, became a cheerleader and now she’s a rugby league journalist.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

What’s wrong with promoting cheerleading? Not all women who wants to be part of the game wants to be a player. The fact you view cheerleading as shallow, sexualised pompomery is part of the problem. Why should cheerleaders be culled because a minority choose to view cheerleaders the way you do?

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Fair arguments, apart from women who are “okay dancers”. I’m not sure what the hiring requirements for all clubs are but to be part of the cowboys spirit, you require ‘extensive’ dance experience.

It also hasn’t been reported as to whether the scrapped cheerleaders are still employed with these new ‘dance squads’ or if they’ve lost their jobs.

I haven’t seen any real evidence to suggest culling cheerleaders was necessary, apart from a few blokes in an office telling the media they want to desexulise an actual sport.

If cheerleaders didn’t want to be cheerleaders, they wouldn’t have applied. If they felt they were sexualised and objectified, I’m sure they would have quit.

Darcie McDonald is more than qualified to speak on behalf of cheerleaders and like I wrote in the article, these women are so much more than attractive girls shaking pompoms and they want to be ‘cheerleaders’. Girls and boys aspire to be ‘cheerleaders’. Why take that away from them?

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

In all fairness to “big J”, as Darcie McDonald mentioned, her favorite part of going to footy games when she was a little girl, was the cheerleaders.

If cheerleaders inspired Darcie to grow up and become captain of the Bulldogs cheer squad, and now a rugby league journalist, more girls may follow or are already following suit. The more women in the game, the better.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Cheerleaders have been a part of rugby league since the 60s. They add to the spectacle. It’s like asking why do we need a concert before the grand final.

Excluding cheerleaders only removes women from the game

Yes

Were the Cowboys robbed of the opening try by the Bunker?

Too much nervous energy to burn lol

Ride the emotional roller coaster of an NRL fan

Paul, you’re right. Name-calling shows lack of intellect within a discussion.

I guess it’s hard for some, especially after their team loses, comments are made out of emotion and without the benefit of intellect because they’re in that moment straight after a loss.

I logged in today to my supporters group page, and the conversations are a lot more civil and productive about last nights game, probably because fans have had a chance to sleep it off.

Ride the emotional roller coaster of an NRL fan

Agreed!

Ride the emotional roller coaster of an NRL fan

Paul, come on man. I said criticize, not attack. And I don’t think a fan calling another fan a “couch coach” is vicious abuse nor do I think a fan calling another fan a “so-called fan” for criticizing the teams performance an attack. I also said you can say whatever you like “within social media’s community guidelines”. I think you’ve greatly over exaggerated here.

Ride the emotional roller coaster of an NRL fan

I’d love to if I didn’t live in a different city to where my team is based… but look at it from an away game perspective!

Ride the emotional roller coaster of an NRL fan

Kawahja will be the man under pressure

Cameron Bancroft has put the Aussie top order on notice

Ask Paine https://t.co/PQJYC8TEtx

King Kohli is the gift that keeps on giving

Not according to Paine

https://t.co/PQJYC8TEtx

King Kohli is the gift that keeps on giving