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Expert ladder predictions are offensive

Now that the storylines have been written, player recruits and transfers have been finalised, the pre-season trials are done and the banter has commenced, experts are publishing their ladder predictions for the 2020 season all over the interweb which has caused much debate, on-line blow-ups and in some cases offence.

Great article! The current trend in sports journalism is worrying to say the least.

Why I’m worried about the quality of NRL journalism

The selfishness of these blokes is unbelievable. But then again, maybe it isn’t a surprise at all. Perhaps an IQ test should be conducted with the COVID-19 test before the season restarts.

Players put NRL restart at risk: Federal government

I like that observation 😂

Jason Belmonte wins third consecutive PBA World Championship

Crunching a plastic bottle I believe… 😂

Jason Belmonte wins third consecutive PBA World Championship

It’s all or nothing for poor ol’ Mary. Hopefully Flanno is having a positive affect on mary’s coaching and the teams performance

Expert ladder predictions are offensive

The Storm are still very much a relatively complete side, but I still have reservations about the halfback position, although Hughes was impressive in the trials. Their depth in their centre positions is also a concern and losing the wombat for the first few weeks puts a dent in their impact off the bench. A finals certainty though

Expert ladder predictions are offensive

After the Broncos efforts in the trials… oh dear 😢

But one must always keep the faith. Broncos have only missed the finals 3 times in 32 years si I guess that stat bodes well for your lads.

Expert ladder predictions are offensive

Apologies for the offence caused. Inexperienced backline and the fact Matt Moylan can’t get himself fit is why I offensively predict the Sharks to miss out on the finals.

The Cows/Sharkies rivalry has been too underrated over the past decade after we’ve knocked each other out of the finals a few times. Now that we have Val, it’ll make our games much more interesting.

Expert ladder predictions are offensive

If the Sea Eagles can keep their key players fit and firing this year, I see them as the team best equipped to knock the Chooks and Storm out of the finals.

Expert ladder predictions are offensive

Bellamy easily. No disrespect to Robinson, great coach in his own right, the Roosters have star players 1 to 17 but many of whom were developed elsewhere. Bellamy has not only developed no name youngers for many, many years eg Smith, Slater, Cronk; he’s also helped the average ‘journeyman’ reach their full potential.

The NRL's coach of the decade: Bellamy vs Robinson

The “greatest of all time” is merely in the eyes of the beholder. A subjective opinion. Some will say Thurston is the greatest. Some will say Smith. Some will say King Wally. Some will say Lockyer. And for the subject at hand, some will say Joey. All have valid arguments to be considered the GOAT when you list their accomplishments and describe their attributes.

That said, Joey deserves a statue. Us Queenslanders have immortalised many of our greats already; Lewis, Lockyer, Meninga, Beetson and Langer at Lang Park. JT gets his statue at NQ’s new stadium (he might get one at Lang Lark as well with the other Maroons greats). Smith will get one, Slater will get one. GI will get one.

NSW are so far behind already. I’m both amused and disappointed that the NSW state government has never chipped in or even considered recognising their sporting heroes in bronze. Not just Joey, but there’s a list a mile long of NSW players who deserve a statue eg Fittler, Mortimer, Stuart, Daley etc

It’s a great image for rugby league that we commemorate our legends in bronze.

Newcastle deserve a statue of Andrew Johns at McDonald Jones Stadium

North Sydney Bears has 8 district clubs and 16 clubs on the Central Coast. You might be right about the current demographic, but it’s negative thinking to suggest Manly can’t make in imprint on the area. Nobody thought the Storm would work in Melbourne. Success comes from imaginative thinking and risk taking. I formulated my ‘opinions’ using quotes from Scott Penn, Greg Florimo and Brad Fittler.

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Sorry that’s CC and North Sydney combined… read that stat on Central Coast Bears Wikipedia

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Gday KiwiBear, I’m a proud and distraught Cowboys fan actually 😢 I’m not sure why Manly weren’t more proactive about my idea 10-15 years ago. You’re right though, the Bears ‘brand’ was all but dead in buried at NRL level in 1999. The Bears still exist, they still have a club in reserve grade, financed by Norths Leagues and still have a few thousand members. But the only way they’d ever receive an NRL license based on the North Shore, would be at the expense of Manly. So from an NRL level perspective, Bears territory is vacated. I don’t see anything wrong with Manly competing for corporate backing in these areas, because as an NRL licensed club, sponsors would gain more exposure. The Sea Eagles brand would definitely be on the nose for some, but after 20 years, there’s an entire young generation of fans who’d have no emotional connection with the Bears. My ideas wouldn’t mean instant success, it would take years of commitment, much like rugby league moving into Melbourne, AFL heartland and years later they have 25,000 members and are the second most supported club in the comp, according to Roy Morgan. As far as your opinion regarding clubs taking games to the CC, it’s merely your opinion, but when clubs take games there, the locals are still showing up to watch rugby league. The Bears can try the CC again, but there’s nothing offensive about clubs leaving a footprint on the CC by taking a game away from their own home fans. Chooks have provided pathways for kids in a few of their schools and junior clubs. Manly can do the same. But this conversation is me saying “yes they can” and you saying “no they cant”. But Manly need to do more for long term sustainability. They have among the worst membership numbers and crowd numbers in the comp for the past half-dozen years at least. Being imaginative and thinking outside the square (or outside the northern beaches) is logical, IMO.

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Ethan dude, let me give you some advice, IGNORE SAID KEYBOARD WARRIORS! The internet is a haven for people like terrance to show their true colours as to the type of person they are, but if you’re prepared to put your name out there and express your opinion, then you need to prepare for people like terrance to jump on the internet to try and hurt your feelings lol seriously though, he’s dangling the bait and you keep biting at it.

Back to the subject at hand, the 1.5 million figure is a direct quote from Bears CEO Greg Florimo on Macquarie sports radio, Sept 2018, his maths when it comes to the 3 districts combined. I also used a quote from Manly owner Scott Penn, who told AAP, March 2019, his club represents over a million people in their catchment area.

Sure I could have googled, but decided to take a shortcut and use the estimated population number quoted by 2 qualified people lol

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Ethan dude, let me give you some advice, IGNORE THE TROLLS! The internet is a haven for people like terrance to show their true colours as to the type of person they are, but if you’re prepared to put your name out there and express your opinion, then you need to prepare for people like terrance to jump on the internet to try and hurt your feelings lol seriously though, he’s dangling the bait and you keep biting at it.

Back to the subject at hand, the 1.5 million figure is a direct quote from Bears CEO Greg Florimo on Macquarie sports radio, Sept 2018, his maths when it comes to the 3 districts combined. I also used a quote from Manly owner Scott Penn, who told AAP, March 2019, his club represents over a million people in their catchment area.

Sure I could have googled, but decided to take a shortcut and use the estimated population number quoted by 2 qualified people lol

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Terrence, thanks for the advice but I did say “I’ll have to check” and it’s just the comments section, but you’re right, I should never never ever assume lol but your reply offered nothing factual nor a counter claim proving my assumption wrong. I’m interested to know the correct answer to the original question though…?

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

The Northern Eagles tried the half-half Gosford and Brookvale, but the Central Coast folk lost interest after a while and stopped showing up, but admittedly the merger club was very poorly run. Such a beautiful stadium seemingly going to waste, apart from the Hunter Mariners during summer. Not sure if the area is a growth area that could sustain an NRL club for long term success. Would definitely like to see more games taken up there though, via Manly, Chooks, Bunnies…

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

The Central Coast has 23 clubs and about 5000 juniors which most NSW based clubs are cherry picking from.

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Redcliffe are leading the race to be the second ‘Brisbane’ license because they have a great club with a huge cash cow of a leagues club, but Redcliffe itself is too small so they’d need to dip their hands into Brisbane and leave their footprint and take ownership of the Sunny Coast as well

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

I struggle to see whats in it for the Bears if they merged with Manly again, if they don’t play games out of North Sydney Oval which as you point out, a nice ground but isn’t exactly NRL standard these days. Bears still have a presence in reserve grade, I don’t see how they return to the top grade after they’ve been knocked back twice now with the CC and GC.

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

I assume the NRL would own each clubs IP, as well as emblems and colours, as they own the licenses. I remember this being an issue during the super league war, so if a breakaway comp was formed, the Broncos could walk away to play for another comp, but they can’t play as the Brisbane Broncos, they’d need to change their name and emblem. I’m not sure if this is still the case though, I’ll have to check. The Penn family owns the footy club and leagues club

Manly must invade enemy Bears territory to survive

Last year when the Raiders flopped out, Ricky went on record and publicly accepted responsibility and humbly admitted that not only did his team need to improve, but he himself needed to improve as a coach, and look at them now. I think it’s time for Greeny to have that same brutal self assessment and honesty session with himself.

Paul Green and the Cowboys must part ways

It was a complete abomination of a game

Paul Green and the Cowboys must part ways

Cows making the finals is improbable but not impossible. The last team to make the finals from their position was the 2013 Cowboys which won their last 6 to finish 8th.

North Queensland Cowboys vs Brisbane Broncos: NRL Thursday night forecast