Is rugby league just behind bigger sports, or does it have additional hurdles?
On Saturday night, I found myself in the Ballsbridge area of Dublin. If you know Dublin at all, you’ll know that Ballsbridge is considered…
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Steve Mascord has covered rugby league in 15 countries and worked for most media organisations that regularly feature the sport, on both sides of the globe. He started off as an 18-year-old cadet at Australian Associated Press, transferring to the Sydney Morning Herald just in time to go on the last full Kangaroos Tour in 1994. He spent three years at Sydney's Daily Telegraph from 2006 before going freelance at the conclusion of the 2008 World Cup. Steve is the author of the book Touchstones, host of the White Line Fever podcast, partner in international rugby league merchandise start-up Mascord Brownz and proprietor of rugbyleaguehub.com and hotmetalonline.com. He is married to Sarah and spends most of his time in London.
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His trophies in Spain or Germany or whatever don’t count. Too late. Balmain can’t go back and join the Brisbane competition now.
'Bright, shiny but lacking emotion': The inside story of 'ridiculous' Grand Final they want you to forget
Yes and the Sydney premiership won the historical battle when Brisbane, Gold Coast and Newcastle joined IT. St George did not join the Newcastle comp. So ‘the Premiership’ started in Sydney in 1908. Those clubs acknowledge the Sydney comp as ‘the Premiership’ by joining it. The current records are correct. As to the point of Brisbane being the the second best, why are you only going to the second best? Who decides its not the third best or the fourth best? The Sydney premiership wins because the other areas joined it, it was run by the NSWRL. Case closed.
'Bright, shiny but lacking emotion': The inside story of 'ridiculous' Grand Final they want you to forget
Are you including the Brisbane comp? If so do we include the Illawarra comp, the Newcastle comp? The ACT comp? Like it or not those cities joined the Sydney premiership – not the other way around. If Souths had joined the Brisbane competition in 1988, they’d be starting on zero premierships.
'Bright, shiny but lacking emotion': The inside story of 'ridiculous' Grand Final they want you to forget
Your comments are, with respect, entirely Australia-centric. Rugby league’s relevance and popularity are under extreme threat in the UK. And it’s a very marginal thing to try and sell people somewhere new when rugby union has usurped the game’s USP by going professional and reducing the number of players. Why, in 2021, does rugby league exist except to service its existing audience? What is its point of difference to new customers?
Rugby union with 12 players? Whoever's writing these jokes has perfect comic timing
Nothing. It is merely an attempt to place events in an historical perspective, highlighting some of the weird co-incidences regarding time frames, and illustrate to an audience steeped in the sport that it is actually becoming irrelevant outside a very small geographic area. If the sport disappeared now in the north of England there would be a terrible pain and uproar but in a generation it would be largely forgotten, particularly if the teams were playing 12-a-aide rugby union.
Rugby union with 12 players? Whoever's writing these jokes has perfect comic timing
Rugby union with 12 players? Whoever's writing these jokes has perfect comic timing
I don’t mind that he got fined necessarily. Thurston and Henry pointed to a conspiracy from the top to deny them a spot in the grand final. The furthest Robinson went in that direction was to say they were the most penalised team in the competition. He didn’t say the referees wanted them to lose. As for not naming officials … I don’t see the distinction. You’ve only got to look in the program to see who the “match officials” were. Oh, that’s right … we don’t have programs anymore!
The 2013 precedent NRL should have used to let Robbo off the hook after Abdo's intervention
Again, my point in the column was not about the issues you raise. It was showing restraint as an administration if you expect the people you police to show restraint.
The 2013 precedent NRL should have used to let Robbo off the hook after Abdo's intervention
As a reporter, we are in business of ‘news’. Teams get thrashed all the time. It’s not ‘news’. A bloke clobbering a friend and former team-mate and ending his season by breaking his face does not happen every week. That, therefore, is news. That’s why Trent was asked about it and that’s why he spoke about it. I you go through the column again, you will see I reach a fork in the narrative where I say I ‘could’ point out the discrepancy between 2013 and 2021 – but I don’t. Instead, my argument is that if the administration don’t want knee-jerk reactions from coaches, they should avoid knee-jerk reactions themselves.
The 2013 precedent NRL should have used to let Robbo off the hook after Abdo's intervention
I am in favour, as a fan rather than a journalist, of rules that keep the game out of defamation court.
The 2013 precedent NRL should have used to let Robbo off the hook after Abdo's intervention
Agree completely.
The 2013 precedent NRL should have used to let Robbo off the hook after Abdo's intervention
Businesses exploit markets. That’s exactly what you’re describing – and what I’m describing too.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
It’s still not expansion. It’s marketing!
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
Most people don’t watch levels below the NRL.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
See my comment above about standard. I don’t really care about it. If it drops … there’s nothing to compare it to. People who only watch Super League don’t know it’s low standard because they’ve got nothing to compare it to. I think the standard can afford to fall a fair way in the NRL before it kills the business. Some sports are very boring to outsiders but they still do very well commercially thank you very much.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
I don’t think standard frankly matters. Let the standard fall. Only rusted-on fans care about standard. Pro sport is business. Move into new markets so more people watch and play. If the standard is diluted by 12 per cent because of more teams, fewer than 12 per cent of those watching will notice.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
see above … and below. Sure Brisbane can sustain another team. But it’s not expansion. At best its reclamation – at best. And it will be tough in an age where IP and branding has become so huge and long-term history and nostalgia are so powerful.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
The point is that it will be a battle given how enshrined the Broncos are and it is exploitation because they were just trying to squeeze more juice out of the orange. That does not mean it shouldn’t happen. But those points remain.
Why the NRL's plan for a 17th team looks more like exploitation than expansion
Yet here you are, reading the story and commenting, thus keeping both of us in a job.
If Jack de Belin is considered captaincy material, has the job lost all meaning?
I’m a journalist. I have respect for Michael Chammas. I believe the story has credence. I based the column on that. If you didn’t believe the story then there was really no point in wading through a reaction to it. The equivalent would be a column called “where water goes when it falls of the end of the world”. Would you read that? Maybe for a giggle.
If Jack de Belin is considered captaincy material, has the job lost all meaning?
I would ask why you are reading and commenting upon a story by a journalist, in that case! 🙂
If Jack de Belin is considered captaincy material, has the job lost all meaning?
That’s pretty much what I was getting at.
If Jack de Belin is considered captaincy material, has the job lost all meaning?
For me, nothing is a given. I wake up each day and assess everything I see and do and feel as if it’s brand new. I know that’s strange. But that’s just the way I am.
How hard is it for us to go cold turkey on our favourite sport?
All true. That’s exactly what the column is about.
How hard is it for us to go cold turkey on our favourite sport?
No, it’s evidence that wrong – in many cases – won and we still have wrong. Perhaps rugby league was wrong to break away from rugby union in 1908. The issue that caused it, professionalism, is now not an issue at all. But we still have it. The decision on legitimacy isn’t based on right or wrong, it’s based on staying power.
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