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Yes 31 straight is hard to get around, as is 9 from 9 since 2010, at 37-15 average, the lowest margin of those 9 matches was 12 points, in a 5 try to one win.

Like this last match, history does sometime have quite a say… 🙂

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Geez, Ive seen the entire history of the human race change with one personnel change in the past let alone two…a scrum change of two is easily match altering, as it was.

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Seems the longer Cotter stays away… :happy:

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Yes, Im wondering if Gloria thought the ABs were just as beatable those years when they lost similar matches…oh…but wait…

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Yes have seen that for a while now. Things get sorted early, but they do tend to bring in a long waiting game after them. For me the first two seeded should play last as you’d expect in normal round robins. Theres two advantages as top seed- one…you get separated initially from the likely challengers who goto other groups. Two, you play the worst, second worst etc, then no. 2 to see who tops the group.
With this draw once the groups are named it matters not who is number 1 position in the group.

All Black to the future at Eden Park

what other result would you expect? Perhaps go through the volumes of alternatives offered last week for a start. Get back to us in a few months…

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Yes never heard of it on the full. We used to grubber it straight along the ground as hard as possible from the tee or drop to force a knock on from one of the ‘alert’ forwards… :-)…and that was within the last four decades…

All Black to the future at Eden Park

More so than a most ever record 47 points scored?
We had some semblance of luck in keeping it to zero, particularly in that first 20 where easy kicks missed and the line was defended far better than the week before.
Thing about oz is they can provide shock value through sheer belief, and Perth was definitely that.
As can any knockout they play. Asking for that twice or even three times might be a stretch. In at least one, likely two, of the knockouts a team must be the best of two ‘up for it’ teams on the day.

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Who are they?

Never heard of them… :happy:

Mario Ledesma names Argentina's World Cup squad, complete with one shock omission

Good summary Nick and good to see ‘good’ kicking is back, just in the ‘Nick’ of time.
Did say all week, despite the inevitable doubts a thrashing tends to bring, history had the answer to this match all week. The scenario is consistent with many of the past, recent and further back. Tactically it was as you say but the Eden park factor is real. No side would win a tier one test match by 36-0 a week after being drubbed by 21, conceding their highest ever points ‘ever’.

And that includes the ABs outside of Eden park.

There are other factors, the weather, the tactics, but most of all its the resolve, its the desperate need to reverse humiliation of not only a loss but a thrashing.

From that alone, the AB’s, to quote Jurassic park ‘find a way’…

Key now is NOT to get carried a way, as the Wallabies and most fans- understandably- showed how that shouldn’t really be done.

Key is finding a way to ‘play as though we were thrashed last start’ because history shows as well, the AB’s react better then. With a win, you know they might possibly lose the next one.

With a loss, you know they’re almost certain of winning the next one. A slight but very important difference.

Thats where the knockouts dont help the ABs, but theyre learning to recreate that urgency from the last two…because they have to.

Aussies will lick their wounds, but at least they go into the world cup they can perform, but cant get carried away.

Overall the series has been good for them.

All Black to the future at Eden Park

Yes they’re due a good refs pasting I have to admit, and there will be plenty here to take up that analysis. :thumbup:

Cheika's Wallabies need a revised Plan A for RWC glory

Yes the world cup is the one anomaly that runs against the normal AB strike rate.

Will be interesting watching the no. 1 position go back and forwards for a while, same way the no. 2-6 or 7 have gone all over the place.

The All Blacks' dominance comes to an end

Probably annoyed with the goal kicks cos he knows Foley would have got them (as would most kickers, CLL on another day). Scoreboard pressure was critical during that period, even if it has to start with 3.

The age-old problem at the heart of another lacklustre Wallabies performance

ha ha that reminds me… At uni we used to listen to a bit of Tim Bickerstaff on Radio Pacific and around 1981 he was asking callers to ring in their best AB XV and we heard all these sides get named, the usual Meads, Lochores, beegees etc you’d tend to pick around that time and old Tim would poke and prod away at the callers wayward suggestions so we thought we’d put up a XV that mirrored exactly what he was approving of, but at the last on the list named Farrell at fullback.

Geez you should have heard him – from mmm…yep…yeah like that…yep…ok yes…as we went through it…

then …..Whaaaaaat? Are you mad? Expletive, expletive for a half a minute then we got cut off, and still he went on as we were tuning in as well. Knowing big old Tim he would have turned red as a beetroot…geez it was hilarious, thanks for the memory, havent thought about that for years. 🙂

But yes he was great for Auckland and Suburbs but the first two tests v Lions, geez, couldnt kick ten meters, dropped every ball, they even had a montage of ‘Farrell’ moments.

Felt sorry for the chap actually.

But ol’ Tim…that was funny. mentioned it to him when I met him at a snooker tournament years later too…

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Yes I agree and to a certain extent the current system works that way but for a far shorter period than a year or two. Under the current system you could have nz at 1, wales at 2 where for a year nz beat wales ten straight matches and rankings don’t change, wales win one and go to number one. Is that reflective if the last year or two?

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Thought the same. Some good things came our of it and we did get a couple of good bounces, I thought the score flattered but that was because our tries came too easy. Aside from those there were very competitive spells, oz just taking none of the several chances offered.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Theres a few wallaby fans that like to obsess about refereeing of particularly the opposition, or lack of it. Its usually a biased account, and a habit of a few fans who’s teams don’t win a lot. They actually think how a ref goes is central to the outcome.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Comment of the week. Kiwis are overeacting more than Ozzie’s were last week.
Funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Its ok, Spoons going away shortly. Any other injuries from the round?

Picked there’d be a couple of key ones, those two are up there but I hear Biggar has a few fans still.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Yes its 31-0 after Wales were 3-1 up.

That’s some comeback. 🙂

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Some crazy things have happened at world cups sheek and at the top of the list is… Upsets will happen. Its jus a matter of who and when.

Cheika's Wallabies need a revised Plan A for RWC glory

He’s processed well last three outings, great that Hansen stuck with it. I’d say its now set in stone for the tourny proper. I think we need to play Josh Ioane vs Tonga though, if Barrett or mo’unga goes down at wcup time we will be stuffed, plus he,d be needed for the Zimbabwe etc matches.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Yes interestingly both born out this way… Blmn weak SHers… :shocked:

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

Well the most even way is a straight two points a win, one a draw, none a loss, right across the board. If that were the case the ABs would probably be a several hundred points clear, as they are with number of test wins or points.
It would be five or six years for anyone to catch that, so to make the positions more relevant they make it tougher the higher up the table you are. Its a clear case of ‘the better you are, the better you have to be’.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash

What its illustrations is how hard it is to stay at the top. NZ isn’t ‘losing’ to all and sundry. We’ve lost one this year. We lost two last year. We haven’t lost two straight in eight years. It is because the other SH sides are losing more to the NH sides PLUS the fact that Wales have had a golden run that has meant they go ahead. Not playing the ABs has also probably helped but we’ll park who we each think would win that. Fact is they didn’t play the no.1 side to take the spot.

The Wrap: Normal order restored in Bledisloe Cup whitewash