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I noticed on rewatch this arvo when Bostock scored his first try, Gutho landed on him heavily – nothing illegal

Bostock wasn’t super happy with it, but Gutho gave him an all time spray… little bit embarrassing knowing what was to come

'We gave up': Under pressure Arthur rages at 'part-time footy team' Parra as undermanned Dolphins run riot

Watched the highlights this arvo… the way Katoa shaped to pass, held it up and then floated it over the defence for Bostock’s first Hal& try was sublime

Watching it in full speed, it’s almost imperceptible. On replay, there’s about three seperate thoughts and actions in a millisecond. Great vision, perfect execution…

'We gave up': Under pressure Arthur rages at 'part-time footy team' Parra as undermanned Dolphins run riot

* tough as teak

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

I like Tino as well

Also plays big minutes, work rate not as high as Haas but has a bit more aggression

With blue and white goggles on, one of my all time favourite combos was Peter Tunks and Peter Kelly. They were both tough as team but also very skilful players. They played three straight grand finals, winning two

Tunks also formed a great combo with Roach in the 86 Origin clean sweep

Kelly unlucky not to play more rep footy, but I’d put him up against any prop

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Yeah, really hard to compare across such different eras

Did Webcke and Lazarus play together?

Webcke and Petero were a brilliant combo too. I’d have JFH and Leota in the convo

Lazzo was a freak… he did what he did playing 80 minutes

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

I think most people knew there was a better player inside Lomax than what we were seeing. Did anyone think he was this good?

He’s playing with sublime confidence to try anything – see his flick pass for Ben Hunt’s try in atrocious conditions against the Knights, the catch-a-bomb-on-the-fly try or 40 metre field goal last night. His ambition doesn’t seem close to meeting his talent ceiling at the moment

Great to watch

How good a coach is Shane Flanagan? He’s getting a lot of players playing right at the top edge of their talent. Obviously a smart footy coach, but also seems to be a great man manager

'Complete performance' sees Dragons stun Warriors - and Lomax rocket into Origin contention

Interesting that Arthur said that his team “gave up”

Sounds like this morning he’ll be adding everyone’s tackle counts to their run metres to work out who are the players working hard for the team… 😂 😂

'We gave up': Under pressure Arthur rages at 'part-time footy team' Parra as undermanned Dolphins run riot

If Isaako had his kicking boots on, should have been 50. I’m happy to call it… 😁

'We gave up': Under pressure Arthur rages at 'part-time footy team' Parra as undermanned Dolphins run riot

That was messed up… Parra completely rolled over and were spanked in every area of the game

Was Gutho taking the two the turning point…? 😛

Not sure what else to say about that game

I sold Jack Bostock in SuperCoach this week so made it a bit of an uncomfortable watch in the second half…

'We gave up': Under pressure Arthur rages at 'part-time footy team' Parra as undermanned Dolphins run riot

Spot on

JFH and Leota rarely carry the ball out if their own end. They don’t bother wasting gas even getting onside

As you say, they own the middle in defence, they take the hit ups at the attacking end of the field and they batter the opposition into submission

They’re the best front row combo I’ve ever seen and not even mentioned in this article… says it all

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Nah, he’s a dud cause he’s not doing hit ups through the middle like a good forward should 😂 😂 😂

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Mostly due to me 😂

Kikau, not Latrell

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Yeah, I need to learn that… they drag me down to their level regularly…

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

1. This stat assumes 1 tackle = 1 run metre. Given forwards typically run 50-150 metres and make 20-40 tackles, that’s obviously not even close to parity

2. This stat assumes that run metres and tackles are the key metric for every forward. That’s clearly not the case. It ignores that there are different roles for different players in different positions

3. Using this metric to compare Carrigan – whose purpose is run metres and tackles – to Kikau – who has a completely different role and purpose is patently ridiculous

To suggest this silly stat somehow proves there theory that Kikau is “the most over rated player in the NRL” is immature

For all forwards (not including hookers) Kikau is:

1st for try assists
3rd for try involvements
7th for line breaks
1st for line break assists
3rd for tackle breaks
10th for offloads
2nd for metres per run

Holding this position that Kikau is over rated across at least three articles over 14 months is amateurish

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Second comment deleted for pointing out how daft this stat is

If professional journos need to be so protected from comments then maybe you should consider whether the article should be published

My comment didn’t breach any of The Roar’s comments guidelines

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Are we sure that Teddy running out of room, crabbing sideways and having no one to pass to is the cause of the Roosters problems or a symptom of them?

First three games of the season the Roosters were playing much more direct in attack and Tedesco looked to be back to his best. Lately they’ve had a revolving door of halves, playing more sideways – and so is Tedesco

Same thing happened last year. Origins 1 & 2 Teddy looked a shot duck. Walker comes in, NSW play direct and Teddy’ back. Roosters hit a purple patch post season and so did Tedesco

It’s probably concerning that his form is so beholden on those around him. Tedesco of old wouldn’t have been, but I’m not sure he’s behind it all…

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

I also think the second half of my comment shows I’m really not taking this too seriously…

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

You couldn’t transplant 1978 Kerry Boustead into today’s game

2024 Bowie would probably be 6 foot and 90kg

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

😂 😂

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Yep. If there’s a hidden stat in rugby league it ain’t tackles + run metres

It’s off the ball efforts. Things like Collins’ chase or all the times players like Dylan Edwards push through in support for the odd time for it to pay off

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

“Interestingly, a number of the men excelling in defensive workloads achieve only a moderate TM score, based on limited running metre production.”

That’s not interesting at all. It’s because this daft stat is weighted towards forwards who get run metres and against players whose main contribution is defensively

Rather than being interesting, this points out the outrageously obvious flaw in this metric… before we even get to all the stats you’ve conveniently swept into the bin

As a side note I gave this article to my 13 year old to read. After 30 seconds he looked up and said “one tackle isn’t equal to one metre.” Guess we’ll keep paying his school fees (and the Kayo subscription) 😂

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

Based on Kikau’s feeble first-up performance, fans concerned Bulldogs have dug up another T-Rex

Stuart made his mind up about Kikau after one game… doesn’t seem to matter what Kikau does in the meantime – including leading the Dally M – he’s sticking to his guns

The NRL stat that isn't one, but should be: Working out which forwards really pull their weight

I didn’t see it that way. Smith was running through looking at the ball. He collided with Watson. Watson wasn’t in the air and Smith didn’t take his legs out. I didn’t think it was any more Smith’s fault than it was Watson’s

I thought Mariner hurt his back contesting the bomb with Xavier Coates…? That’s when he was in discomfort and getting treatment

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

Yeah, I’ve just spent half an hour on Facebook. Blowing up about refs has replaced analysis

There were Storm fans saying that Klein wanted the Roosters to win and Roosters fans saying he’d rigged it for the Storm

I get up in the moment and blow up about decisions as much as the next person, but this idea that it’s a scam and refs are costing teams games has been taken to new levels

I can honestly say in 40+ years of watching footy, I’ve never watched a game where I’ve agree with every decision. But these days it’s pitched by media as “game in crisis” and there’s people who lap it up

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

Robbo going off with his wide eyed incredulity act in the presser…

'Both were really clear': Roosters in a rage over ref's contentious calls as Storm win on the back of two dubious tries

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