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There’s more to nationality than birth place or passport…

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

No, you have to be a national of the country, not necessarily a citizen

You can be a national by parents country of birth or even by marriage, not just where you were born or what country you’re a citizen of. Different countries have different rules

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

We’d only get Mat Rogers, Thaiday, Inglis, Folau, Billy Moore, O’Davis, Bowman, O’Neill, Gillette, Crocker, Tino, Welch. Bartrim, Allan Border and Jeff Thomson… 😂 😂 😂

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

I can read. I responded to your THIRD comment that Kite, Mason and Tonga played Origin in 2005, the edits hadn’t shown up yet for some reason
Nice choice of insult too considering your three posts were all as a result of you not being able to interpret the comments in the article correctly… 😂 😂 😂

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

I think we probably need to separate Origin and international footy

It’s not so much about letting kiwis or poms play, we’re letting people that meet the Origin eligibility criteria play for NSW or Qld

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

I can fully understand that seeing one Queenslander in blue was too many, but it’s also become one of the myths of origin that Blues were winning with teams chock full of Queenslanders in the 70s. There were usually one or two

One of the catalysts I’ve read about was McAuliffe seeing Boustead score a hat trick for the blues in 78 or 79, so maybe it was more about quality not quantity… 😁

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Mason, Kite and Tonga didn’t play Origin in 2005…

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Which pre-Origin NSW teams had a ‘hefty percentage’ of Queenslanders in them…?

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

I just gave a contemporary, relevant example of how factors other than Origin form got a player selected in the Australian team

Chris Close was MOM in Origin 1 in 1980 and MOM in Origin 2 in 1981 but wasn’t picked for Australia until 1985

There’s examples of Origins not being a selection trial for the Australian team from the very first Origin to the most recent

It’s a myth that it’s ever been a true selection trial

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

But the rules are the same

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

If we truly only want to see players in Origin who aren’t financially motivated they should remove all match payments

Then we’ll find the ones that are truly passionate

I’m sure most of them will be bloody Queenslanders 😂 😂

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

All sports – including the Olympics have heritage rules where you can represent the nations of your parents or grandparents

Nation of birth or citizenship aren’t the sole eligibility criteria of any sport

You may as well say the Olympics are a farce because athletes represent countries they weren’t born in

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Origin is clearly not for Australian selection and probably never has been

Walsh outplayed Tedesco this year in Origin, yet clearly there were other factors outside of Origin performance that saw Teddy selected for Australia

It’s always been that way the argument that Origin is a section trial is not just redundant, it’s just wrong

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Yeah definitely… but I think the ‘smell test’ is the eligibility laws

I can get behind the idea of someone born and raised in Qld or NSW or living there from a young age playing for them but also playing for NZ or England for parents or grandparents or because that’s where they were born

They’re as qualified for Origin as any other player who meets the eligibility laws and nominated for Australia

Someone like James Graham, Hugh McGahan or Sam Burgess who came here when they were in their 20s don’t meet the Origin criteria

That won’t work for everyone but it does for me…

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Why don’t they go the opposite?

Because that’s what it’s used to be and since the eligibility laws were changed Origin has grown and international rugby league has improved exponentially…

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

Don’t stress mate… it was never too likely… 😂

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

I suspect this suggestion will raise a lot of hackles and we’ll see a lot of “if they weren’t born here and don’t pick Australia, they shouldn’t be playing Origin” type comments

I’ve fully supported the tier 2 / Origin eligibility laws. I think they’ve improved Origin and massively strengthened international footy. It hasn’t sacrificed eligibility laws. Pacific heritage players still need to meet EXACTLY the same eligibility laws as their colleagues to be picked for Origin

I was born and raised in NSW and Australia. My dad is English and my mum Canadian. I would have been epically proud to represent any of the four, so I completely get the idea that you can be multiple combinations of nationality… and do it with pride

The idea of “I’m 100% this nationality and nothing else” is what the old school eligibility laws were based on, but doesn’t really fit with modern society any more

I’m pretty open to the idea, but there’s still a few things I need to work though before I’m completely comfortable with Poms and Kiwis playing Origin

If Kiwis and Poms are allowed to play, Origin might be about to stumble into eligibility rules that work

They definitely weren’t arguing a point you made, but were kind enough to kinda prove your point for you… 😂 😂

'Embarrassing post': Tigers star in strife over social media comment on LGBTQ+ inclusion

So if Teddy has a flat season or two at the very end of his career it affects his legacy? I’m not so sure…

I think we all get a bit dramatic at times. If someone isn’t the best ever they must be the worst

It doesn’t take away his 2019 which is in the top 5 or so best individual seasons I’ve seen. Doesn’t take away his Dally M or his 220 games or 120 tries. His two premierships. Origin and test wins. His World Cup win as skipper

2023 wasn’t a great season, but he was red hot in the last two months or so. Even an absolutely dud 2024 shouldn’t ruin his legacy…

Pressure Points: Why 2024 might be the most crucial year of James Tedesco's career

How has he lost the right to voice an opinion?

'Embarrassing post': Tigers star in strife over social media comment on LGBTQ+ inclusion

Yeah, I’ve jagged a couple now

You’re spot on with the tips to get better scores

Sometimes you hurt your brain trying to recall obscure players helps. Sometimes it pops in seemingly from nowhere

Thanks, NRL Grid: you’ve made me realise how little I know about rugby league

My first unicorn. Grand final winner x played for the Cowboys = Ben Harris !

Thanks, NRL Grid: you’ve made me realise how little I know about rugby league

My wife is filthy at Mike… I’ve barely spoken to her for two days… 😂 😂 😂

Thanks, NRL Grid: you’ve made me realise how little I know about rugby league

It’s definitely the hunt for unicorns that kills you…

Thanks, NRL Grid: you’ve made me realise how little I know about rugby league

First read through of this article, I got as far as the link and now I’m hooked

Thanks, NRL Grid: you’ve made me realise how little I know about rugby league

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