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Nick Turnbull

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Sorry mate I was referring to Wayne Smith the writer who mentioned Knuckles as an interim recently.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

For memory Drew Mitchell and Steven Hoiles do not support his sacking. I don’t think Bob Dwyer or David Campese do either.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

Morning Baz,

Fair call.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

Fair call.

I support Wayne Smith and think Knuckles could do a job in the interim.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

If Michael Cheika is to be sacked, who do you think are genuine options to be his replacement?

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

It all tilts on good governance then. Are we assuming RA are unified internally?

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

Fox cunning indeed.

Where does Michael Cheika get his power from? Great question. I would answer in several ways;

1. He is in the box seat as it will be a financial impost on RA to move him on. The board, as it appears to me, has more business people on it than people will both rugby and business acumen. If it boils down to dollars and cents he has the power.

2. He answered the call when Australia needed a coach. So did Jake White, but he took on a sinking ship to his credit and somehow gave Australian Rugby a shot of self confidence. That confidence is all but gone yet the vaporous trails still waft in the air that give hope.

3. He has allies in the media and punditry who wield influence.

4. I suspect RA don’t have the minerals to take him on. Too many jellyfish who would have to borrow a spine before looking at Cheika in the wrong way. Not all, but collectively I don’t think they have a ‘look you in the eye’ decision in them as an organisation. I think he scares them.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

Morning Geoff,

Love the quip about the high performance unit!

Perhaps Cheika wields too much power at RA and he won’t allow himself to be sacked?

Whilst there are good individuals on the board, as a collective they don’t inspire much confidence as an organisation that can get things done well. The Western Force, the snail paced rollout of the National Coaching Panel, the Hooper contract and the Women’s World Cup bid spring to mind. Oh and then there is the Wallabies themselves, dreadful!

Too many compounding issues but a clean out and new thinking is required on the board, the business model and in the coaching personnel.

The Wrap: Is this D-day for Michael Cheika or same old, same old?

The must be some change Brett as without it RA is near condoning the rubbish rugby being displayed. I think there will be some ‘restructuring’ of the coaching set up for 2019. That may be the head coach, assistants or both. A circuit breaker is required.

By the way, Orange is the new Black…

England loss confirms Wallabies are no closer to RWC success

Thanks Bill,

‘Never give up’! The words of my mentor. We’ll get there Bill but we must be honest with ourselves and right the wrongs of the past to sure up the future. Structural reforms are needed. The right people are around, we just need to exorcise a few ‘Wood Ducks’ out of the joints do wrest back our game from the imposters. The Wallabies are not a play thing or vehicle for self promotion!

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Cheers Topo.

I’ve replied to you elsewhere.

Regards

Nick

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Cheers Harry,

I’d love to sit down for a few beers with Cheika and pick his brain. I’d also thank him for stepping up when we needed him but his abilities appear to fall short of the solutions required from a coach, but there problems do go beyond the influence of the head coach.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Perhaps you should read my other articles. I actually tend to agree with you. Today’s article was specific to Cheika, his skipper and even RA and how they have been saying the same stuff over and over again.

I have read David’s article, I usually read all of his, Spiro’s, Brett’s, Geoff’s and others.

There are quality back row forwards in this country; Caleb Timu, Jed Hollaway, Jack Dempsey, Rob Valentini, Richard Hardwick, Lukhan Tui, and Adam Korcyck come to mind.

More than happy to discuss the history of the game with you.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Well I think you need a bit of swagger as they say, just have to be able to back it before one actually swags….

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Mate I think he has been unlucky at times, the same fixture last year was not without its controversy and again this year, but that is like complaining of a black eye when you have a stake through your heart.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Entitled to your opinion Max, but respectfully disagree.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Thanks Sheek,

Could you say that again? ????

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Morning Lano,

Earlier in the year a wrote an article that Cheika’s loyalty was now to a fault as there was little accountability for poor performance. I suspect this is an ingredient in the mixture of why the Wallabies are failing.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Thanks mate,

As Australian political figure Graham Richardson says, ‘The mob has figured you out’, is absolutely applicable to Cheika, his coaches and leadership group.

The echo chamber that is Wallaby rugby

Rob Valentini perhaps.

Pocock ruled out of England Test; new Wallabies team unveiled

Where is Toupo?

Pocock ruled out of England Test; new Wallabies team unveiled

I agree, the Wallabies have the ability just not the game plan and mental application to do so. Therefore we are done.

Combinations and chemistry take time. Why haven't we been patient?

Must be the game plan then mate? Perhaps they have not been buying into a clear and coherent plan based upon sound rugby logic that actually works?

Combinations and chemistry take time. Why haven't we been patient?

Hi Sheek,

Yes, great line. Mate furthermore, Jones dropped Chris Roche for David Codey and Ross Reynolds for Steve Tynuman for memory. Perhaps Cheika et al could follow and select a taller, powerful backrow that maximises the Wallabies chances at the set piece.

Combinations and chemistry take time. Why haven't we been patient?

Good morning Brett,

Combinations are an interesting beast and I am comforted by a tried and tested combination in any area of team selection. However, there is a ‘flip-side’ to that argument when you consider the ‘Farr-Jones – Ella’ principle.

I am sure you don’t need the background on who these two are, but neither had played a test with each other before the now famous 1984 Grand Slam Wallabies left Australia. In fact, Farr-Jones had been picked from relative obscurity playing for Sydney University in the then Sydney second division. The rest is history as they say yet there is a near ‘Bowled Lillee, caught Marsh’ feel when you mention Farr-Jones and Ella in the same breath. Unlike Lillee and Marsh, however, there was no lengthy history that steeled this combination, it just clicked and worked for a small pocket of time now made famous, and that’s what Cheika needs to find. Cheika does not need to find the next great combination for all time, he just needs a backline combination that can work together understanding and buying into a clear and coherent plan based upon sound rugby logic that actually works.

I see that Scotland is going with Adam Hastings at 10 and Finn Russell at 12 this weekend when they take on Argentina. They are also playing a pacey back-row. It will be interesting to see how their foray into the dual playmaker system goes?

I give the Wallabies little chance of getting within 15 points of England, I hope I’m wrong of course but there is little to no evidence that would suggest we have England’s measure in any aspect of the game.

Combinations and chemistry take time. Why haven't we been patient?