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Lover of many sports with Rugby League my top choice. Long time Panthers fan. Also keen on Football, NFL, Horse Racing, Cricket & Boxing. No time for motor racing or tennis.

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Club management needs to “sell” themselves to the young talent. It is a business. For example, the Tigers have added to their positive narrative now with their new Concord facilities and could be selling greater opportunities to get an NRL spot than with those current “Well Performing” Clubs. They just need some nous in their operation.

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

Other Clubs just need to become more attractive ! A few quality people running the recruitment & retention operation would be a start. Otherwise they would have just as much trouble running with a draft as they are having today.

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

But there is nothing stopping the Dogs or Tigers or Cows doing exactly the same thing , except the lack of such abilities to identify the talent and retain it ?

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

Spot on SPM ! You still need to identify the talent that you can develop and turn into a quality A-Grader that you can retain longer term. I still question most NRL Club’s ability to do this.

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

I thought I read somewhere this week, that Parramatta & West Tigers have bigger junior leagues than the Panthers ? And there is nothing stopping Souths getting some scouts out there in the Central West spotting some talent to bring to Redfern rather than snooping around the GPS schools ? Most of the Central west & Southern districts used to go to the Canberra Raiders eg. Laurie Daley & crew. Seems they dropped the ball a few years back and the Panthers have run with it since. They offer spots in Jersey Flegg & S.G.Ball to those with talent and wanting to have a go, with the best ones eventually being offered a spot in the top 30 NRL squad. But it means guys like Liam Martin had to have his mum drive him from Temora to Penrith each weekend for a couple of years till he made the grade. Or even look further afield ! James Fisher-Harris was recruited as 17 year old from New Zealand for the Panthers 2013 SG Ball squad. There is no excuse for other Clubs not to do the same identification , recruitment , development & retention from the country or overseas regions, apart from their lack of such abilities ?

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

100% RLFan. It is all about the abilities of your Club recruitment & retention managers. The good ones ( few and far between) need to be able to identify the talent, foster & develop it and turn it into NRL standard , and retain the good ones long term. With the Cap it can be a bit of a struggle and even the best of these good Clubs make the odd error eg Panthers letting Burton go to pay Crichton more ? But that pales into insignificance when you look at the management of talent at, say, the Wests Tigers when players of the calibre of Teddy, Papenhuyzen, Addo-Carr, & Moses disappear without a trace whilst the team struggles for years ? Will the Draft do these Clubs any good ?

'It's the only way bottom dwellars will fight their way up': NRL world reacts to draft proposal

Playing outside of Jack would limit most players’ involvement to a few hit ups off your line.

The 2021 NRL all-overrated team of the year

Sorry AMD . But I think that is only a “much vaunted” back one , with a couple of rent seekers cashing in behind him ! Both wingers are dreadful defenders, and Garrick makes a few more meters out of defence than the hapless Saab.

The 2021 NRL all-overrated team of the year

Maybe “cornerstone ” is a bit over the top, but I’m a big fan of Koloamatangi . He is a big strong player who can go for 80. He hits hard in defence and rarely misses a tackle. He does his hard yards with the ball and can offload. It is no surprise to me that he was in the NSW Origin squad this season.

‘Cornerstone of our club’: Koloamatangi, Hess sign new NRL deals

I think it has to be Crossland , unless there is another hidden talent waiting in the wings ? You just can’t trust Mann with his massive mistake rates, and Hoy needs a couple more seasons in the reggies to be any future chance.

The Knights’ No.1 problem if it’s a case of Pearce off

I’m with you Andrew. I think the Knights biggest problem is to get Ponga interested in playing a full 80 minutes whether from fullback or any other position. He is in and out of games more often than the Broncos trainer ! He is either not fit or not interested in an 80 minute effort. At his best he’s the match winner, but too often he goes missing. I think fullback is probably his right position, but moving him to 6 might switch him onto being a full time player with the more concentration on front line defence and a ball playing role ? Either way , the Knights have a hard working, but limited 9 in Brayley, and Ponga as their key spine personnel. They still need two more players to prove they have a full spine to make any impact on the competition !

The Knights’ No.1 problem if it’s a case of Pearce off

But Slater never broke a trophy or did a silly dance on Tic Tok ! ” Its just not his go !”

NRL investigate Tedesco over alleged slur

Sounds like just another marketing ploy from Netflix ?

NRL investigate Tedesco over alleged slur

Some great names there, Tony. I would quibble with a couple of them. I reckon you might have tried to mix them up a bit with players other than Dragons who dominated till 1966. But I reckon Artie Beetson had little to do with 60’s Grand Finals . He only played in one in 1966 and the Dragons smashed Balmain 23-4, and he missed the 1969 Tigers GF win when he was suspended after belting Bob Batty in the Prelim Final. I would be more inclined to include one of the Dragons props like Billy Wilson ( winning GF in 60, 61 & 62) or Monty Porter who won a couple too. The other one is the second rower Bob McCarthy , most famous for taking incepts out in the centres eg the 1967 GF. I would have a far better second rower like Elton Rassmussen ( GF winner 62, 63, 64, 65, 66) !

The greatest grand finalists of the 1960s

Yep ! The Souths pack really improved towards the finals last year. Burgess was outstanding and Koloamatangi & Nicholls were not far behind him, and added to the already acknowledged value of Murray & Cook.

The 2021 NRL all-underrated team of the year

He will blossom with a decent team around him.

The 2021 NRL all-underrated team of the year

Yep ! Its a wonder Penrith ever won the premiership with just one rated POPE player scraping into the top team ? Even the Sharks managed two POPE’s ? And those 5 Storm POPE’s must be really embarrassed now losing twice to Parramatta & Penrith last season with just one POPE between them ?

It’s the POPEs: The 2021 NRL team of the year

No ! The Chooks offered him more money and a 3 year deal. Moving each year has worked out well for him previously.

EXCLUSIVE: Panthers premiership winner to join NRL rivals

Yep ! Can’t but be a whisker away from delivering on that debut promise of Round 24 of the 2013 season? 😛

EXCLUSIVE: Panthers premiership winner to join NRL rivals

Even if his culture is more about the Grappa menu ?

Culture comes first for Dolphins: Bennett

Allegations have been around for years ! Not “almost immediately” referred. It took an embarrassing media expose by one player to finally get some promised investigation.

We must all do better to address rugby league's harmful treatment of women

It could be much worse that the NRL ! We could be looking into the antics of our highly respected Federal politicians or public servants , or dare I suggest, the Matildas ? Check out those large brooms and carpets !

We must all do better to address rugby league's harmful treatment of women

May copped heaps of public criticism for his dumb video incident of some years ago. And rightly so. He has obviously developed his own “victimhood” mentality since then, and his recent posting after the GF victory was just another example of his misguided beliefs of his “victimhood”. We all know he is way off the mark, but he needs some help here, not just being ostracised from life. And to use the May example as proof of the Panthers “toxic culture” is pathetic.

Panthers slapped with breach notices over post-grand final antics

“Penrith does not have much of worth that they can be proud of.”
You are kidding , Mick ! As a football team they have plenty to be proud of. They have worked hard for the past two seasons to finish Minor Premiers in 2020 and equal first in 2021. They have made the past two grand finals winning this season’s premiership under some tough circumstances. They have developed most of their players from their junior district or country cousins, rather than importing big names from other NRL clubs. They do plenty for the grass roots of the game. Penrith fans are very proud of their team and the players do plenty of good for the people of Penrith. This pathetic smearing of the Club based on the misguided “victimhood” social media posting by one player, and a couple of incidents of player celebrations confected as some narrative of “arrogance and disrespect”, is a complete joke. It’s like some people here just need to be permanently outraged at certain players / clubs, and promote every narrative possible to smear them. Or have I just fed the trolls ?

Panthers slapped with breach notices over post-grand final antics

What a beat up story ! The trophy was damaged when a woman sat on a table on which the trophy was standing, causing the table to collapse and damaging the trophy . Hardly like what was written here “the Provan-Summons trophy had been broken in wild post-match celebrations, …”. The trophy pieces were kept together in a pram till it could be repaired rather than lost. Hardly a show of disrespect to anyone ? As for Tyrone May and his feeling of “victimhood” over his previous video incident and court case , he certainly needs a few adults to tell him some hard truths. Not sure that NRL fines for his latest dumb social media post will be the answer ?

Panthers slapped with breach notices over post-grand final antics

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