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A rugby game isn't a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that.

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Aus is $5.5M.

You have to consider that that NZ amount excluded Mitre 10 Cup payments which are up to $60k.

Across the Super Rugby pool it’s around $1M extra per squad.

Also top Aus players really don’t get more. Top All Blacks are signing deals for $1M+ a year now.

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

What sports? Not AFL and NRL…

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

It’s always about Sydney Uni…

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

The issue wasn’t Perth (as far as I’m aware) but the 2006 expansion came with no additional revenue.

Another dud JON decision, as the expansion came from his tenure.

Even the Rebels themselves weren’t a bad decision. The commercial agreement JON agreed to with the owners was though. ARU took all liability and gave up control.

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

It was actually DHP coming back that broke it up but totally agree

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

Are you considering the extra TV money they got because of the team though?

It would have been better had they not expanded to Perth – not because of the team but the fact that they added a liability and gained no extra TV money with it.

The Wrap: The Rebels prove there is no short-cut to Super Rugby success

Why would the actions of being gay have consequences if they aren’t inferior or wrong?

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

I love how this has been addressed and you just ignore the harm on vulnerable youths and the fact that this feeds into gay persecution, but just present it as an argument you think you can win.

Israel Folau's video statement as legal battle with Rugby Australia continues

Did science say asbestos was good?

My understanding is science said that it was cheap and easy to manufacture.

The health concerns were undiscovered, not incorrect.

Israel Folau's video statement as legal battle with Rugby Australia continues

That’s what governments are supposed to do.

Spend in the down time to maintain the economy and save in the good times to have money for later.

We have a government that can’t save during the good times and you’re criticising a previous one for spending the same during a global recession.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

My understanding is it’s basically a chance to back out- not a reason to say yes.

Sorry Titans fans, but the end is nigh

If nobody thought they could be a better job there would be no negative comments..

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Well most of those months were because Rugby WA took legal action to prevent him making the choice for a start…

And I have no idea if they acted prudently. But to me acting prudently would be exploring every alternative. Had they been able to negotiate a cheap purchase of the Rebels, they may have been a viable option.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Many aren’t interested in compromising aren’t because their opinion is based on research, not baseless notions.

If I look something up and come to a view, and you with no knowledge have a view, why should I meet you in the middle?

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Avoiding recession during a global financial crisis, the largest since the Great Depression is not good?

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

What are you going to learn from an interview that you don’t know by a coach’s record and history?

Sorry Titans fans, but the end is nigh

Really? If they were perfectly aligned Latu would have been sacked.

Cheika would not have been re-signed in early 2016.

And other examples.

The difference is just that I’m not some knucklehead who thinks I could do better despite having no experience or track record.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Does his boss pay him high amounts to be the face of his organisation?

Somebody earning $1M a year has higher responsibilities than somebody earning award rates.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

He can’t just sit on his hands though. He has an obligation to minimise his loss to a reasonable extent.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

But rebel he cops it because he says offensive things or completely inaccurate, and then refuses to consider they may be offensive or complete inaccurate when it’s pointed out.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Where have false, damaging statements been made about him?

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

He deserves people to respect his right to have views.

But as you say, his views do not deserve any respect. That or ridicule is based on the merit of them.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Like any other employment agreement, this one comes with conditions.

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

Not if it’s one employer and one individual, and others from the same faith are able to express their faith without fear of loss of employment.

It would only be persecution if a number of organisations all terminated people because they were known to be from one minority group. Like religious schools do with gay teachers…

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs

How is it? If you are promoting the view that somebody needs to repent for their actions – that’s saying they need to change by stopping and apologizing for them.

The narrative is that the people are inferior and need to change, but people think by saying “we say this with love” that it negates the whole thrust of the point.

Kinda like Izzy’s “love and respect for all… I just don’t respect you’re right to get married if you are gay”

Israel Folau begins court action against Rugby AU and Waratahs