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A rugby game isn't a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that.

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But why didn’t contact with the head at the tackle get any attention?

MATCH REPORT: Wallabies will be 'filthy with themselves' as Scotland end winning streak

Things are going to get missed but this looks like scrutinising one team more than the other in the same video

MATCH REPORT: Wallabies will be 'filthy with themselves' as Scotland end winning streak

I’m not a big fan of JOC as an elite 10 and thought he wasn’t very good today but I’m happy to give him the benefit of the doubt as he was outside White, who I am certainly a fan of, but who I thought played poorly today and whose services was woeful at times.

MATCH REPORT: Wallabies will be 'filthy with themselves' as Scotland end winning streak

Yeah that’s what frustrates me.

AAA was a soft yellow. But still a yellow.

But the fact that the officials have watched the footage that shows contact with Rodda’s head in the tackle prior, and contact with Hooper’s face after and ignored both to penalise the attacking team at the breakdown leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

MATCH REPORT: Wallabies will be 'filthy with themselves' as Scotland end winning streak

If RA signs a decent TV deal in the next couple of years that changes the equation.

Current value is decent then so the chunk of cash you get will be better. Or ideally the same chunk of cash they’d get now, but less of their future revenue given up for it.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

It involved Twiggy parting with money, it just required RA to maintain a commitment for money they couldn’t touch being sent elsewhere.

I suspect if anything, he knew they wouldn’t and couldn’t accept it.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

I read through the submissions in the senate inquiry. There is an email included in there that details it.

The offer was basically explained as X years of funding for the Force, to be granted to the grassroots charity (there is a specific entity but I just can’t recall the name).

As part of it required the Force to be guaranteed a licence for that period.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

But over the years there has been a stream of guys who were Super Rugby starters at best in Australia, and often guys outside the 23, who go to the Prem and get selected more, and seem to perform better in comparison to their opponents than they did back here

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Rarely midfield and outside backs

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Yep. Only makes sense if you invest that money into something that will grow future revenue.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

For him to donate money to somewhere RA couldn’t access, and then RA would provide annual grants to the Force (same as every other Super Rugby team though – no special treatment here) on the basis they meet a number of other conditions.

It was a terrible offer because it required RA to commit to funding the Force (which it didnt have to if it cut them, and then put Twiggy’s money which offset that, in a fund which could only be spent on grassroots money.

It would be like if somebody asked you to sign a mortgage for a house, and they will pay the mortgage payments into your preferred charity. Great but doesn’t help you actually pay the bills.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Now for RA is the worst time.

Lowest value the stake will have, and selling away a share of future revenue for it.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

The biggest problem is rugby has always been a niche game.

Rugby in Australia now, at what seems like a low, is still at an historic high compared to the majority of Australian Rugby history.

Compared to prior to the early 80s, today seems like a once in a lifetime boom.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

I heard a figure of $300m bandied about the other day – how much of that goes to the grass roots – $zilch. It will all get frittered away and spent on the RWC gravy train.

And the Federal Government would be providing that to host the RWC.

So the grassroots will get the same amount of it as if Australia didn’t host the RWC. $0. Just there will be no RWC profit to prop up the game.

I’d take a nest egg to be able to squander, rather than no nest egg thanks.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Morahan would be one.

Julian Salvi once described as the best 7 in the prem was another.

Whilst not at all a star, Max Lahiff has managed to grind out a pretty solid career in the prem when he was unwanted by the Rebels after less than a season. Managed to develop quite a cult following too, but that’s more for his personality than play.

Not standouts again, but Mitch Lees and Ollie Atkins were completely unwanted by Australian teams but seemed to carve out decent careers for Exeter. Atkins came back and couldn’t crack the Force starting team last year when the didn’t win a game, due to having to put together their squad in a rush for Super Rugby AU.

Ben Meehan was a Super Rugby bench player but has been a regular starter in the Prem for Irish and now Gloucester.

I believe he’s injured at the moment but Jordy Reid has been a regular starter or 23 member at Gloucester. He wouldn’t even make the Rebels 23 with Hardwick, Wells, Leota and Wilkin there.

Some of these examples (Salvi and Reid) are probably players who just suit the Prem game more than Super Rugby and there would be examples the other way too (Jordan Olowofela was probably an example of this at the Force).

Harry Potter is playing decent rugby as a regular starter for Leicester. He couldn’t crack a 23 once here.

Likewise Greg Peterson who was a youth prodigy and managed 1 start in 4 seasons at the Tahs. Now a regular starter for Newcastle.

A big factor is with more teams there’s more opportunities. But over the years there has been a stream of guys who were Super Rugby starters at best in Australia, and often guys outside the 23, who go to the Prem and get selected more, and seem to perform better in comparison to their opponents than they did back here.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Yeah that’s the thing. Forward play is more physical but the game is slower.

Rodda noted as much having to get back up to conditioning for test rugby.

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

Yeah but he doesn’t play against them. How would the teams he’s performing well against fare?

'I thought my Wallabies career was over': Arnold reflects on surprise spring tour call up

I could see him turn up at the Rebels or the Force.

Force would be the better team for him to go to with the Rebels having Gordon and To’omua but Quade seems to be reasonably tight with Stiles who is now GM of Rugby there after finishing at Kinetsu.

Plus with Miotti leaving the Force could use an experienced 10 to replace him. McIntyre is decent but if an upgrade came up they’d be mad not to take it with Mc being the only 10 on the books.

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

If Quade comes back it would be for the last come of 2022 SR games then 2023. He’s definitely signed to Kinetsu for 2022.

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

I think its a bit of a case of club’s saying “we cant stop you from going but we wont be happy if you do”

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

Actually Kinestu have been playing games this month if you look at their social media

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

It’s about $12k a test (but on tour I believe they split that kitty across the squad, not the 23).

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

I don’t think you can compare the 3 equally.

No Aus team really wanted Quade. Which is why he went to Kinetsu.

McMahon was wanted and on decent money. He just wanted more money (I would have done the same).

Kerevi was the same, but he’s played 7s which was outside the Reg 9 window, plus the RC and been injured during.

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

The club is playing hard ball and RA is playing soft ball.

Can understand why Rennie is.

He can force them now and burn the relationship. Or he can try and foster a good relationship, and try and get players to go to Japan over Europe, which aligns much better with the Wallaby season.

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

Yeah at first I read it as him playing the game just pleasing his employer, but wonder if it’s more a case of him saying to RA “Get a SR team to sign my and this wont happen”

'I'm hurt I couldn't please everyone:' 'Vulnerable' Quade Cooper on decision to choose club over country

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