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The figure I heard was $30mill but it wouldnt be anywhere near that point yet (surely anyway, its garbage). But the next big pieces to be rolled out is fantasy football and then grassroots registration and team management so its a work in progress to get up to that (astromical) figure.

Australian football's long-term future is looking a lot brighter

P+ hopefully moves away from cordening off each competition off from one another and just follows what the other three do and have everything combined with one row for live matches, another for full replays, another for minis and a fourth for highlights. All comps they have the rights for jumbled together but split according to video type. Would be much better.

How do you rate the A-Leagues' new broadcaster so far?

I have logged feedback with KU that their team fixtures list for AL teams need to include AL, ACL and FFA Cup (and preseason) weeks ago so that this is an authoritative place for fans..

How do you rate the A-Leagues' new broadcaster so far?

Agree there are ways to have ads without breaking away from the coverage. Harvey Norman highlight and Maccas goal two examples, but also on ESPN and Fox they do it so the coverage window gets smaller for 5 seconds with a banner along the bottom. No stop to commentary/audio. As far as ads go its less intrusive.

How do you rate the A-Leagues' new broadcaster so far?

Yea Google is the place to go for fixtures. Literally type in A-League or W-League (or A-League women) and usually an up to date list is provided quickly and easily. So much better than KeepUp.

How do you rate the A-Leagues' new broadcaster so far?

Fair play for splitting the Sat games according to local market, that is a great development. Also kudos for slowly unrolling new graphics in the coverage (chance of winning, live ladder etc), it shows things are improving not just static.

PiP is required to watch games concurrently, like I was doing with NFL and the Ashes yesterday afternoon on Kayo, but the single biggest leap forward and top priority to me has to be on-demand content; you need to be able to watch any live match “from start” or “from live” and full replays need to be up instantly, with minis and highlights within two hours of full-time.

Sort this out and the service would be on the way to satisfaction (although still mediocre).

How do you rate the A-Leagues' new broadcaster so far?

It’s clear the FFA Cup is in some kind of transition and this year is more background noise than anything else. The game was scheduled for 5pm Brisbane time to allow Roar to flight home last night (I believe), which doesn’t really allow for anyone to get home from work in time to watch it. This would be ok if 10Play allowed you to watch on delay, or even as a full replay a bit later. Of course it does neither, the only replay content that is put up afterwards is a 5min highlight and usually hours later. Last night’s game is still not up on 10Play to watch (as a 5 min replay I might add there are no full FFA Cup replays on 10Play), 15 hours after full-time.
Then of course you have 2-3 matches scheduled at the same time consistently throughout this tournament with no PiP functionality. Chalk that up to fixture congestion from Covid, but man they have some work to do on this tournament it has not really progressed in any in the move from Foxtel to Channel 10.
Then add how the whole thing was rigged so Roar got a cakewalk against two NPL teams in the first two rounds. Again Covid but it cannot and should not happen next time.
Channel 10 don’t care about the FFA Cup, so why should the fans?

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Match Week 10

Being there is three games only this weekend and two are scheduled for the same time, you’d think the smart thing to do would be to move one to 6:30pm kickoff and the other to 7:15pm (AEST).
You know, try to space out what little football there is rather than render 3 games essentially down to 2 only.

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Match Week 10

Why do I need to look up pictures I was there a couple of months ago for an NRL game? I sat on the hill with numerous others.
Theres a few reports CAMCOS is back on the agenda due to Olympics, time will tell. What does Nambour have to do with it this is a rail that starts at Beerwah and runs to M’dore.
Why would football need to limit themselves to a grandstand, what is wrong with the hill? If Sunshine Coast Stadium is good enough for NRL finals matches and regular regular season matches, it is good enough for the A-League, plain and simple. Wikipedia lists the capacity as 12,000 which is about 4k-6k more than would be required for A-L matches.
Dolphins have said they intend to play games there each season. If it is good enough for Dolphins, it is good enough for any would be A-League team.
Will be interesting to see if SC is featured in the initial set of 2nd div teams.

Where should the A-Leagues expand to next?

Nix also would have gone out of cup if not for a Jameson missed pen (twice).

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Match Week 9

Not much different to Leichhardt or Kogarah, some grandstands and some hills. I was on the hill for the Storm v Manly game. It would be fine to host AL games as it stands as many suburban grounds in Sydney do.
It would do the job knowing that upgrades are forthcoming as part of the Olympics. The Olympics is looking like bringing a train line through the area too, known as CAMCOS.
Think the issue of an SC team is more to do with whether there is an appetite for football there, I grew up there and all my friends passionately hate sokkah.
I could possibly see Dolphins obtaining a licence if Roar were to move back to Brisbane city and rolling out their Redcliffe/Kawana hybrid to football as well as rugby league.
Sunshine Coast Council are absolutely going to want regular tennants once the upgrades happen so football needs to leverage that. Dolphins likewise if their cash cow in the Roar move on.

Where should the A-Leagues expand to next?

Does every team that competes in the A-League need to be an APL member?

Conversely, could an APL member remain so even if they are relegated out of the AL?

Perhaps the AL can feature guest spots for non-APL members.

Where should the A-Leagues expand to next?

The Sunshine Coast stadium held an NRL finals match a few monthd so it is suitable for AL now.

But even more so when upgraded to 16,500 stadium for 2032 Olympics.

Where should the A-Leagues expand to next?

NFL are not using all of those 1000 employees to edit matches down to minis and highlights packages solely, they generate all kinds of content constantly (all TDs for a round, best plays etc). So your point would be valid if I was expecting APL/C10/P+ to develop the amount of content NFL does in their entirety, with their limited media team which to be a tiny fraction of the NFL.

That isn’t what I said though. What I said was P+ are much too slow getting their mini-matches/highlights up. It takes them hours and indeed days in some examples.

NFL take half an hour. Utd v Wolves had finished at around 6am yesterday morning and their mini was uploaded by 6:50am. PL would have a similarly huge media team.

The market doesn’t really care about resources behind the scenes though, they care about the product they get for their subscription dollars. Industry leaders like the NFL and PL have demonstrated consistently the possible turnaround times for content generation to consumers. If P+ can’t get close to meeting that with what resources, they are a lame duck in their industry.

However, you can compare examples closer to home and see that Kayo and Stan upload their full replays instantly with no delay whereas P+ take two hours. Is that a better comparison for you?

As far as what I deem to be a reasonable expectation for P+? Instant upload for full replays and within two hours for minis and highlights. This would be double the length of time it takes PL and four times the length of time it takes the NFL. More than reasonable I hope you agree but currently not being close to be met.

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

Wait what? Waz uses the Roar v Power and Roar v Lions games as examples which according to you is “spot on” but then in the same sentence you say results in cup games should not be used as evidence of NPL teams ability to compete?
I guess perhaps I should have used the word entertainment instead of quality. There is a huge noticeable gap in quality thus entertainment between PL and AL. Hell, there is a big quality/entertainment gap between MLS and AL. However, I don’t see that gap as being so big between AL and a proposed 2nd div as it currently is between say MLS (let alone PL) and AL is all I meant.
I like AL mostly because it’s my local team more so than because it is a top quality entertaining league (although it of course has it moments) . I believe I could get that local flavour that appeals to me from a 2nd division, and the drop off in quality and entertainment from the AL would not be significant to me personally.
Free to disagree of course.

A-League licence fees are not as lucrative as you might think

Yes, and APIA beat WSW. And then CCM beat APIA. Any given Wednesday as they say in the NFL.

Roar did bring it on the day in both of those games but on balance I don’t look at them play week in week out and see immense quality there as a spectator. Remember how dire the WU game was?

A-League licence fees are not as lucrative as you might think

Should make for interesting times once a bit of competition is introduced into the mix in Australia.
I see myself attending both but I can’t help but think I might enjoy going to say Brisbane City in Newmarket more than Roar in Redcliffe all things considered. Better food and beverage options, nicer weather, closer to my house and the difference in football quality to be negligible (compared to Roar anyway, teams like City are a big jump up from the NPL).

A-League licence fees are not as lucrative as you might think

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but ACL produces tournaments like the Women’s Asian Cup in its entirety and as such previously sold all the rights to Football Australia who then sold it on to C10/P+ in its entirety (i.e. not just Socceroos/Matildas matches).

So just like how we get all Asian WC qualifiers to go with Socceroos WC qualifiers now on P+, so too should we get any and all non-Matildas Asian Cup games. C10/P+ have the rights to them anyway (as far as I know).

Optus have the rights to the Women’s WC in Aus but even those Matildas matches you can expect to see on C10 as Optus will need to find an FTA provider so as not to breach anti-syphoning laws. I guess alternatively they could offer them as “free seat” matches but they don’t tend to do them anymore it would appear. More likely they drum up a deal with C10 like AL had previously where they buy the timeslots and collect the ad revenue themselves for those Matildas WC matches.

Why the Matildas should win the Asian Cup in India - and a few reasons they might not

Not sure the “friendlies don’t matter” way of thinking will wash too well in the Channel 10/Paramount + era. Certainly not for the matches played at home anyways.

Football Australia under Johnson are looking to develop the Matildas and Socceroos brands even further moving forward. We are told that Matildas are a top 10 team in the world and we are also told of Socceroos imposing form at home in WC qualifiers. Therefore, there should be an expectation for a result in every match played at home. The public will see through it all pretty quickly if matches are promoted and pumped up as “big time events” by C10 only for the Matildas to disappoint and then dismiss a loss as “only a friendly”. Such an approach is not sustainable.

To be fair the matches at home for Matildas in the C10 era have been good barring that bad loss in the first match v USA.

Why the Matildas should win the Asian Cup in India - and a few reasons they might not

Yes they will be on 10 👍

Why the Matildas should win the Asian Cup in India - and a few reasons they might not

KEEPUP now have a YouTube channel and I can see that the ALW mini match between City v Vic was uploaded 8 minutes ago at time of this posting. For a game that was staged on 26 Dec!

Why would anyone care about this content a week after the fact, seriously?

24 hours since Roar v Vic, still no video uploaded. The ball being dropped by APL is there for all to see when it comes to content generation.

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

Why schedule two games at the same time on Saturday night if you don’t have the functionality to support it though?

Seems like that could have been an initiative for next season when PiP was ready? That, would have been strategic planning.

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

The difference is that NFL had 8 games to edit down to highlights packages this morning, Paramount+ had one game and still couldn’t do it within a reasonable timeframe.
I’m curious, what length of time do you think is reasonable for Paramount + (owned by established broadcast giant ViacomeCBS) to edit a game down for a mini-match on matchdays where there is only one game being shown? 4.5 hrs+ is seemingly fine for you so is anything within 7hrs all good in your opinion? Or perhaps it just needs to be there by the next morning after the result has been spoiled and known and the world has moved on?
Optus, Stan Sport and Kayo are quicker to upload their minis so you can be an apologist for P+ if you want but right now its the other three services on the podium then daylight to Paramount +.
P+ have acknowledged that they need to get full replays up within 2 hours of full-time they have not been quick enough previously. The other three are instant for full replays, there is no delay whatsoever. So unfavourable comparison on streaming content can exist wherever you want it to not just NFL so use your grey matter. Ahhhhh

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

As you say, all sizzle no sausage.

They made a good ad though so 10 are happy.

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

Agree that Keep Up is totally without worth and the only reason I haven’t deleted it is because it gives me nerdish joy to log feedback incidents constantly.

The latest P+ gripe was there for people to see again yesterday. I was out/busy so unable to watch Roar v Vic live. I logged in at 9:30pm and the mini-match was still not available. 4 and a half hours after full-time!

NFL highlights were up on YT 30-40mins after FT this morning and they had 7 odd games to edit. P+ had one.

So Townsend and the like like to almost guilt us into supporting the ALW but then can’t get their processes right to allow for that support to happen. This is at the heart of my issue with P+ in the main; we are supposed to consume AL in spite of P+ rather than because of it. A good service will encourage subscriptions, a bad one will discourage it.

The streaming age means people watch content in lengths of their choosing at times of their choosing. Done well its way better than old linear viewing modes. But it can only happen well if P+ make it so.

Here's hoping 2022 ends up being a happy new year for the A-Leagues

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