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Yep, imagine expanding in this way…
New MLS teams are given years to prepare, none of this “sign on the dotted line now or your out for next seasom” business. Admittedly Sacramento did fall over after being announced.
A bye would be undesireable next season, but not the end of the world to ensure Canberra eventually gets a team.

A-Leagues 'not in a position where we can underwrite clubs' as Jets, Canberra face uncertain future over ownership dramas

Yes but what is currently as planned is what it was on Saturday. As I understand it, that condemned grandstand is still not funded?

Giancarlo Italiano's rise is the best story in the A-League

None I don’t think.

Stadium is state responsibility, arena is federal.

Albo was smart to put a buffer between federal Labor and this stadium mess.

Giancarlo Italiano's rise is the best story in the A-League

Highly unlikely I’d be going to too many games out at QEII if that’s how it eventuates. Not that I think it will, Olympics being there is a dud proposal, the worst of the lot.
Given we got 3k on Saturday to our other alternative to Suncorp (which is an extremely poor crowd no matter what capacity the stadium is), Roar are on their knees imo.

Giancarlo Italiano's rise is the best story in the A-League

Miles response to Quirk’s review is to reject Vic Park and go with QEII at $1.6 billion.
It will be 40k during the games, then 14k afterwards.
$1.6 billion on a stadium no one will play at after (barring school athletics carnivals), unless Roar are desperate enough. Which they probably are.

Giancarlo Italiano's rise is the best story in the A-League

QEII is back and never has my profile pic been more relevant. Roar are returning home (to ACL embarressment)!

Giancarlo Italiano's rise is the best story in the A-League

Having been at Ballymore amongst only 3000 other people, in a stadium with a condemned grandstand that is hard to get to, it didn’t strike me as “the future” personally. It struck me as end of days kind of thing. Roar’s final resting place haha

A-League report card: Frustrated fans, crap scheduling, Socceroo mystery men and wasted money, but the brand is strong

Who cares if there is three games on at once? When there is 16 teams in each league, there will be 16 games on a week across ALM and ALW women. It is fanciful to think anyone would want to watch that much domestic football, there are other things to do including watching other leagues, and other sports.
I’m all for Thursday nights though, it is a night for sport (AL, AFL, NRL, AFC Cup on tonight alone) and addresses the main problem at hand for APL; getting games out of the sun to create a better product. Night time football will necessitate scheduling games together concurrently, but can be eleviated somewhat by playing matches every Thu night throughout the year.

A-League report card: Frustrated fans, crap scheduling, Socceroo mystery men and wasted money, but the brand is strong

Perhaps im biased, but Jake G-R red seemed like the right call to me…coulda ended pretty badly for Mileusnic and lucky it didn’t.

Does the A-League do enough to nurture creative players?

Yep Black Knights sounds silly but AFC Auckland would be cool…

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Round 20

This whole moving of kick off times is pretty embarressing for APL, especially given they have a summer policy in place, which is clearly unsufficient.

NFL schedules the way they do so it is like clockwork and fans don’t need to think to know when a game is on. MLS have made similar moves and NRL and to a lesser extent AFL function pretty consistently. While minor, this moving of kickoffs is a bad look.

And then you have Roar labelling Ballymore as “unforeseen circumstances” due to lighting. No, that Ballymore is currently unable to play games at night is very much able to have been foreseen.

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Round 20

Hahahahaha no no no

It is APL doing APL things. A bunch of old articles on the AL site are weirdly appearing in Google search results.

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Round 19

Man that was embarressing from Chapman.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

Um, they have 6 home games on either Saturday or Sunday this season though?
Granted, only one of those is on that FTA slot, unsurprisingly against Syd FC.
But personally I don’t hold it against 10 for showing teams that generate at least a little bit of eyeball traffic for advertisers on that FTA slot. What appeal does Roar have to the neutral? Bad team playing often aimless football in an empty stadium (some of the football on show has been ok this year but just inconsistent). Games in Syd and Melb have an atmosphere that you don’t get in Brisbane very often.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

That would be of channel 10’s choosing in the same way that same kind of selection process occurs for the NRL games channel 9 has the rights for, and the AFL games that 7 has the rights for.
Assuming each marquee rivalry will only be played twice a season not three times moving forward, Sat FTA would take up 11 matches between Syd Derby, F3 derby, Melb derby, Big Blue, WSW v Mac and Original Rivalry (Aus day Big Blue not neccesarily falling on Sat) and so the rest should ideally be shared around but include Roar v Vic, Roar v Syd, Roar v WSW and WSW v Vic.
That brings you to 19 Saturday nights, with another 11 whatever combo (across 30 match season) but you’ll find they’d go with whoever brings the ratings rather than any kind of fairness.
The very last Saturday should be all matches at the same time.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

Not in my opinion no, I loved doublescreening both matches yesterday on my TV.
But if you recall, they did have concurrent matches on Saturday night in year 1 of the 10 TV deal (each match shown on FTA to local market rather than national market where applicable) and it was a botch job.
They would cut to the other match spoiling stuff, which is ok if the user volunteers for these spoilers (i.e. choosing to watch Goal Rush on Optus vs watching an individual match), but then also there just wasn’t enough highlights of the other match being spoiled to warrant it.
People would now be becoming more accustomed to these concurrent matches as we go along, Simon Hill even complimented it as a good thing in commentary yesterday.
You need to sell why you are doing it though to make people accept it. The “why” is that football is played at a higher quality in cooler conditions (they have stats to prove this) and so we want to play as many games out of the sun as possible to facilitate this. We also want our clubs to host their matches at a time that is conducive to them to generate crowds and create a great gameday experience.
None of this selling was done the first time around, it was presented as innovative TV production which it certainly wasn’t and paid no dues to the actual reasons why concurrent matches are necessary.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

I would say the recognition that if there is one team that needs to get out of the heat in summer, it is us.
But not so much so that we would get in the way of Channel 10’s FTA game on a Saturday night. Thus, we are regularly assigned Friday or indeed 3 of the 4 Thursday night matches (from memory) this season.
Instead, Roar should choose the day that best works for them which isn’t Thu or Fri given daylight savings.
Another solution would be for those games to kick off at 7:45pm local time rather than 7:45pm daylight time (i.e. 6:45pm local time), which would assist people in making it to the match after work (common gripe with these timeslot is kickoff too early after work so therefore unable to attend).

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

EPL is no comparison on the basis that what APL do now is clearly for TV broadcaster’s benefit (why else) whereas in the UK 3pm to 5pm has a blackout where no PL games are shown on TV during that time. And looking at this coming Saturday, there are 6 matches on during this blackout period?
So they gear their scheduling towards in-person attendances whereas we gear ours towards maximising eye ball time for advertisers to do their thing so it is apples and oranges in my opinion, you can’t compare what they do especially when they dont have ground ability issues like we do in Aus. And hot weather also not an issue for EPL.
The broadcast agreement with Paramount likely lets them choose which match they want to show free to air on Saturday evenings. Clearly, that is usually Sydney FC rather than Brisbane Roar. Which is ok, but Roar should still be able to play on Sat night at the same time as Sydney if they choose rather than having a unique timeslot throughout the weekend forced on them.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

Let us imagine it was a “free for all” where every home team was able to pick when they played.
Firstly, ground availability would mean that even if every team wanted to play Sat night at 7pm, they wouldn’t be able to. They would need to go to their second or sometimes even third choice. This could be competition with other codes as you have mentioned with QLD Reds on Sat, or indeed other AL clubs in the case of Melb Victory and Melb City.
So ground availability alone would necessitate that not everyone plays Sat even if they wanted to.
Then, as I mentioned you’d have teams that have slightly different personal preferences amongst one another that would mean again Sat isn’t actually the only time games are on.
Teams might also change their preference throughout the season. Perhaps for example Roar like Sunday afternoon before Dec and after Feb, but during the summer months really want and need Sat night (which is also a time when there are no SR/NRL matches on, all they would have to compete with is concerts).
Consideration for turnaround times between matches would also need to be factored in (esp for clubs competing in Asia).
Leave it to home teama and I think it’ll take care of itself given the factors. All the while, you allow clubs to (mostly) schedule their matches at times which are conducive to strong home attendances.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

My guess would be because they are trying to keep Roar games out of the sun, and to do that, they either need to play Friday night or Saturday night. Because Saturday night is reserved for Syd FC at Allianz (mostly) or indeed the marquee matches, Roar are therefore resigned to Friday night.
If you accept this logic (you may or may not) what would you do to correct it specifically?
For me, each home team should pick when they want to play to suit them and if that means 6x games on a Saturday night, so be it.
That congestion likely wouldn’t happen though, as one enterprising team would see this an an opportunity to own Friday night. Eddie McGuire has spoken previously of Collingwood’s willingness to play Friday when other teams weren’t was a big part of their growth as a club/brand.
Likewise some teams might brave the heat of the day (Wellington namely) and try to own that time slot on either a Sat or Sun. In summary, letting the home team pick when they play is likely to be influenced by market forces and mostly equal out across the weekend.

The Central Coast Mariners are a reminder of what's good about the A-League Men

Minimal prestige is involved because our teams do so consistently poorly in it. If our teams did consistently well in it like Japanese, Korean or Saudi teams did, it would be a different matter.
Asian football is definetly building I think. Strong performances in last WC, a lot of solid crowds at Asian Cup, Japan beating Germany a couple of times, decent crowds in many ACL games now.
Soon enough, AFC will have four teams competing in the Club World Cup against the giants of world football. Who wouldn’t want to be in that?

Prestige, but with a cost: Can A-League teams afford to play in Asian competitions?

This is ideally what happens eventually. All of Oceania though not just NZ.

Prestige, but with a cost: Can A-League teams afford to play in Asian competitions?

It would be the team that finishes 2nd OR if CCM/Mac win AFC Cup and finish 2nd on the AL table, it would be the team finishing 3rd (playoff) joining CCM/Mac (group stage) in ACL Elite.
Syd FC will be in the ACL 2.

Perth Glory's long-suffering fans deserve their change of fortune

Having to yet again play on a bad pitch after a concert sounds like a wonderful turn of events for people keen on a 2nd stadium in Brisbane.

Like this is good news isn’t it? Not for football on the night, but for just a further case being made.

Perth Glory's long-suffering fans deserve their change of fortune

So there won’t be all that many that will play multiple nights all told. Ed Sheeran played three, but most acts that play Suncorp play one show only given their demand.
Now you might say that is due to the current cap preventing a series of shows. But when these concerts happen, the stadium is out of action for multiple days in preparation, not just the Saturday night for the concert itself. So if Suncorp is going to be unavailable for an entire weekend, may as well get in 3 concerts in rather than 1.
So I voted that I am supportive of concert series hahaha jam as much stuff in at Suncorp until it becomes a farce.

Perth Glory's long-suffering fans deserve their change of fortune

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