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Not sure why there is so much animosity towards all the so called “weaker” clubs anyway. There will always be a hierarchy of wealth and support in any supporting code. You could pretty much make a case for every club to be scrapped too but it is not in good spirit. It is one thing to not like a club but wishing for its existence to be wiped out is quite another. I don’t think there is anything wrong with 18 teams in the competition and I don’t know why we are compared to the rest of the world? Our league should try to maintain its integrity and not try to become like other sporting codes. The AFL seem to have mismanaged their financial position but that shouldn’t mean clubs should be axed as some kind of prophylactic measure. That should be an absolute last resort if things go completely pear shaped and that is what is required to prevent them from going out business. Let’s hope that it doesn’t get to that point. I am sure they will work something out and negotiate with banks for the money to keep it afloat. They have Marvel stadium as collateral and other assets and they would easily pay it off in a few years.

The six AFL clubs that could go to the wall

I would be astounded if any Victorian clubs were axed. St Kilda do have a sizeable debt but they do have assets, a solid supporter base and a lot of the debt is owed to the AFL anyway, which is similar to Brisbane and not third parties according to The Age. The economic/financial ramifications of this pandemic are going to the hit the league and Australian economy very hard and I would be more concerned about the AFL going bankrupt than individual clubs in the scheme of things. The AFL is in the process of negotiating a 500 million dollar loan with NAB and other financial institutions to survive this crisis. They may have to cut their losses with GC but I would be surprised if they even went under. It would also be a PR disaster for them if they axed any clubs rather than try to find alternatives.

The six AFL clubs that could go to the wall

The round was a shocker tbh. The games were too short, had barely any energy and felt more similar to scratch matches, which is pretty much what they were given the situation. If that is what we were in for as fans, then it is a blessing the season has been postponed/cancelled. Either play the game properly or not at all.

What I missed in the AFL this weekend

It won’t work. The players will not be able to work on their skills, team synergy, fitness etc. as effectively for at least 2 months. The season is completely rooted now and just by reading in between the lines, I think McLachlan and his colleagues are resigned to the fact they know the season is done and dusted now. There are no guarantees the 2021 season will not be affected by this pandemic either. That is just speculation but given the current situation, it is not unreasonable to expect that. Truly extraordinary situation

AFL season suspended due to coronavirus

In all seriousness though, the games this round felt mostly like practice matches anyway and were tough to watch. All the results are meaningless and should not be counted given how compromised the season will be now with the players not being able to train together ,work on their skills etc for months. It was pointless for them to proceed with the season in the first place given McLachlan admitted they were effectively delaying the inevitable but decided to pull the pin before r1 was even completed after a meeting. Understandable given the financial ramifications it will have on the league, not that I agree with it but they will just have to bite the bullet like all other businesses in the country sadly.

AFL season suspended due to coronavirus

That is an interesting thought. I wonder how they will determine who wins the premiership this year should the season be likely written off? I think perhaps they will just have to put a line through this season and not have a premier at all. It would be an anomaly in the history of Australian rules football but this has been an extraordinary year so far so it would be fitting. It would be quite funny if Port were deemed the premiers for beating GC though…Hinkley would have been justified in his confidence of Port being a contender at the start of this year after everyone doubted him including myself lol.

AFL season suspended due to coronavirus

Yeah I think it is a write off now. There is no point trying to salvage the season anymore. I think internally they understand the season is over. I think all the results so far should also be cancelled because of how compromised everything is now. They should have the same fixture next year for 2021 to make up for it, assuming the pandemic has abated sufficiently by then.

AFL season suspended due to coronavirus

It was an inevitability. I think they just have to bite the bullet and cancel the whole season now. It is not worth completing the season with all the problems this will cause. I think the AFL know realistically the situation is untenable and that the season is pretty much done now. It is disappointing for sure but it was bound to happen at some point.

AFL season suspended due to coronavirus

It is certainly a more cosmopolitan issue and in a situation such as this, people in the country are at a real advantage I think. I guess they are adopting the attitude that there cannot be one weak link in the chain if they are isolating classes for such a small school. A lot of these measures are annoyingly disruptive but there is not much we can do unfortunately.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

That wasn’t really the main point of my previous comment. The point is that I think it would be exceedingly difficult to prevent the spread of infection in these sporting organisations if prophylactic measures are not introduced, which would include postponing/cancelling the season. Australia may “only” have about 500 confirmed cases of the coronavirus so far but the growth of it is exponential and the initial population that were infected will have already infected other people and so on. I would also not have too much faith in the AFL logistics and management. They have made plenty of mistakes in the past and this is probably the biggest crisis they have ever faced as an organisation. They are not an infallible organisation. In saying that, I hope that no players, staff, coaches etc. become infected and that whatever measures they do implement are effective should the season proceed

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

That is just one way they can contract the disease. They may not need to necessarily go out into public and buy stuff but they can still get infected through a number of other ways. I think it is losing battle tbh to try and salvage the season. So many variables for what can go wrong.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

It is incredibly unlikely this pandemic will be over in the next few weeks. As a matter of fact I think a respected British doctor said the disease will most likely peak in June/July at least in Britain I believe. That is at least another 3 months before cases begin to decline. No reason to believe the disease will begin to abate anytime soon

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

No, some businesses must continue to operate obviously because there must be order. If the supermarkets, petrol stations etc. closed there would be anarchy in the streets and martial law would most likely have to be declared to control it. Lets hope it does not get to that point. I think the AFL is quite expendable in relation to the pandemic and they should not be an exception. Other non-essential business will probably close pretty soon anyway under instructions from the government. Players, coaches etc. will lose money but so will a lot of other people, who are on far less money and have little choice in the matter. Nobody wants to see the season get cancelled and everyone would love for it to play but is it the right decision to proceed with it? I am not so sure.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

I am surprised schools have not closed down yet in Australia. In most European countries, schools are closed. I think that will inevitably happen in Australia to manage the disease.

It is news to me that they would not be at any greater risk of contracting the disease. The priority should be reduction of the disease spreading and not trying to salvage the season for whatever reasons. I think it is the appropriate measure. I mean to be honest, the season is going to be a mess anyway regardless of whether they play or not. I would love for the season to continue but I don’t think it is the right decision for a number of reasons

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

It is if they die or become severely ill. I don’t know how many players have preexisting health conditions but I think that is just one reason for why the season should be scrapped altogether. If the AFL is serious about risk management then I cannot think of enough reasons for why the season should continue. People becoming bored or having no entertainment are not good enough reasons for why the seasons should proceed in relation to a pandemic.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

I would hope the AFL has consulted independent experts to do a risk assessment at the very least on the feasibility of starting the season. It may not be there call in the end at all if the government introduces more prophylactic measures to reduce the spread. I think the risk of the players is pretty much the same as everyone, if not higher. They are human and need to go out and buy supplies, interact with people and more so when the game is being played or when training. They cannot just simply isolate themselves in their line of work. Risk reduction does not mean risk elimination and there is still a good possibility that they will contract the disease. The incubation period can be up to 2 weeks and they may not even know they have the virus until they have already infected others. Testing is also difficult since the equipment to do it is in short supply and I do not think they would be given priority over others if it was necessary. I would be astonished if the season does not become cancelled or at least delayed.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

What about players like Dylan Roberton, Matthew Kreuzer (irregular heartbeat in 18′, not sure if chronic) etc. who have had a history of heart problems, especially Roberton and they become infected? It is my understanding that even young people who have preexisting health conditions can die from this disease and are at risk according to the information released about the pandemic. People in their 20s and 40s recently have reportedly died due to this disease. It is quite uncommon but nevertheless possible. I think there are too many reasons for why the season should not proceed than why it should imo. Too many risks and it seems like an inevitability it will be significantly delayed at best

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

You are completely right. People need to get their priorities straight and so do the AFL. The AFL is only interested in optimising their bottom line in light of the circumstances and the fans that will have nothing to do for months have to get over it. Football in the context of this crisis is completely expendable and the government may force them to shut down anyway should the situation escalate any further in Australia. Boredom is just a consequence of this pandemic and it is quite honestly the least of people’s worries with all the other disruptions it is causing to everyday life. Everyone would love for the season to start but under the circumstances, there are not many good reasons for why it should proceed and boredom is not one of them.

The AFL show must go on

Football is good for entertainment but at the end of the day it is just a game. I think the disease should be treated seriously and it is not “just the flu” like some people are saying. That doesn’t mean people should panic and be irrational but it also shouldn’t mean people be negligent and indifferent. It should be common sense but it seems it has gone out the window with this pandemic. The fact of the matter is the coronavirus is about 20x more deadly than the flu and it is set of viruses including SARS and MERS. I don’t think it is in the national interest that the season be allowed to proceed and it is pointless at any rate if a player becomes infected, which is quite likely. It is just too bad if people do not have anything to do if the footy is not running.

When life’s great distractor can no longer distract

It is still yet to be confirmed whether or not Pendlebury has been infected with the coronavirus. Collingwood released a statement yesterday saying the results of his test would be known by today. I think that is why the AFL is waiting until today to make a decision on whether or not to proceed with R1.

Scott Pendlebury reportedly in quarantine with flu-like symptoms

What about the UK? They are an island like Australia and the premier league is in serious doubt of finishing its season because of this outbreak. The UK has almost 1500 cases now and in reality it is probably between 10-20 times that according to projections/probability modelling.

Into the unknown: A 2020 season preview

It would be almost impossible to verify how many people died from climate change annually. If a person in the Sahara Desert dies of heat stroke, are you saying that is because of climate change? You would need a very broad set of criteria at the very least to make such a conclusion about a cause of death. Clearly the coronavirus is a dangerous disease that has the ability to kill lots of people if the right measures are not taken proactively to prevent it. Climate change is a vital issue but I think it is nonsensical to suggest nothing should be done about COVID-19 because (apparently) nothing is being done about climate change.

Into the unknown: A 2020 season preview

Yes, the world is completely different to how it was in 1919. Today the world is far more globalised, interconnected and urbanised. Medicine and healthcare is much better than it was in 1919 but that doesn’t mean our healthcare systems are infallible. They are being overwhelmed in Italy and doctors are having to choose who gets to live and die because they were caught off guard and disorganised. Italy has an advanced healthcare system and is a relatively wealthy country and it seems to be falling apart at the seams because of the disorganisation/incompetence/initial apathy about the disease. It is quite unprecedented in a 21st century context for sure.

Into the unknown: A 2020 season preview

As I said, it probably won’t matter because the season will be cancelled. Many professional sport leagues in Europe have cancelled/delayed their seasons and the outbreak has about a 1-2 week head start on Australia so I would be astonished if the AFL doesn’t cancel or at the very least delay the season if the government doesn’t force them to do so anyway with a mandate

Into the unknown: A 2020 season preview

It is an apple and oranges situation. The coronavirus crisis is clearly a more urgent and immediate situation that requires more attention and care from the authorities. Climate change is not going to be fixed anytime soon realistically and that shouldn’t mean that people neglect a global pandemic just because not much is being done about another critical but very complicated issue

Into the unknown: A 2020 season preview