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Ex Randwick player and rugby coach. Current Brumbies and Wallabies fan.

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@Oliver – fair summary but …… but ….
why do you disregard Lealiifano’s good form and right to be picked as run on WB flyhalf?

And I think the Brumbies deserve more praise as the only positive part of this years season.

I never had high expectations of any Aussie team in 2019 but Brumbies have exceeded it and are a genuine chance of making the final. The other 3 have done pretty much as I expected they would.

It will take years for Aust to turn around it’s current slide in standard and many basic things need to change before that’s even possible imo 🙂

Seven talking points from Super Rugby Round 18

RE about Quade – when you said
“But this is the bit that gobsmacks me in your post , “Quade did better than expected imo” –
Where exactly do you set your expectations.”

I meant his form over the whole season and ……. yes my expectations were set pretty low 🙂
I rate QC as no 2 flyhalf in Aust behind Lealiifano now but I had him at no 1 until a month ago.

Yeah Quade was crap last Sat as you rightly point out but I think Foley has played 1 or 2 equally as bad this season. So has Beale 🙂

I’ve been saying all season that neither Quade or Foley are good Test standard flyhalfs and Australia could not make a RWC Final with either of them. Too error prone like you say. Quade is a more risky option than Foley but ….. Foley is consistently a dud imo 🙂

What I wonder about the Webels

ok Highlander
Any reason to change your opinions after the Rebels appalling loss to Chiefs in Melbourne?

I think Rebels were never as good as hopeful aussies thought.
Their early season wins were all in the Aust Conference and when the Brumbies were just getting their act together.

As soon as they starting playing outside their conference the Rebels were exposed again – just like in 2018. And poor defence has been their no 1 problem for 2 seasons now – not attack.
Their defence has not improved at all over past 2 years.
Coaches must take some blame for that.

Add on only attacking 1 game plan (flat alignment) and Genia showing continuing poor form as the season progressed. Then add on continually moving Hodge around and a disappointing year from Coleman. Add on most of the squad lacking adequate toughness, mongrel, passion, pride and will to win

Quade did better than expected imo but he’s had no running game since his knee reconstruction and has never been great when put under pressure.

Jones, Koribete, Hodge, Meakes, English, Philip, Maddocks and Naisarani were the only success stories in 2019 imo.

What I wonder about the Webels

At last some good news for Aust rugby 🙂

But Cheika now needs to ditch the Pooper failure and play Pocock at no 7 every game to get him back into form and match fitness before the RWC.

Hooper is vastly over-rated and is best on the bench imo.

Pocock set for shock early return

@Clifto
What did Australia do to excellent coach R. Deans you ask?

Well he had WBs consistently at no 2 in world for 5 years.
Only team they could not consistently beat was All Blacks and but he had several wins there and went very close many other times. His team selections were nearly always spot on and his game plans were excellent and changed with conditions and opponents.

And due to Aussie prejudice and immature inability to accept a NZ coach he was hounded out of Aust in disgrace. Sections of the Aust media unfairly and relentlessly attacked him – especially Queensland.

Deans was not adequately supported by RA during his time.
They wouldn’t give him reasonable resources when he asked for it and they didn’t back him when he tried to change the unprofessional culture of many Wallabies.

By the time of the Lions Tour the writing was on wall and he knew it.
I agreed with his decision to pick O’Connor at flyhalf then as Quade was too unreliable and flaky as had been clearly shown in his meltdown under pressure in the RWC in NZ. O’Connor was the best option we had then and he played ok in that series imo. Aust lost that series 2-1.

Compare that to today now were at no 6-7 in world.
Lions wouldn’t even tour here now because WBs wouldn’t get within 50 points of them. They’d flog all our provinces by 80 or 100.

Deans was persecuted and hounded out of here because he was a Kiwi. This proved to the rugby world that we’re too bigoted, arrogant and immature to accept a foreign coach of our national team. And no other sane foreign coach would accept the poisoned chalice of a WB coaching position here.

I’ve read several books on this era including Dean’s excellent biography “Red, Black and Gold”. Robbie didn’t whine about it but he does explain the details of what actually happened behind the scenes.

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

@Doctor
Win, lose or draw the Brumbies at least play with pride, passion and give 100% every game. This has helped the Brumbies become by far Australia’s most successful Super team.

So for those reasons alone they are worthy of our support and loyalty imo.

I’m one of the many 1000s of disaffected old Waratah supporters. Having played for NSW schoolboys and Randwick I should be a rusted on Tah fan. But 12 yrs ago after going to a Waratahs / Brumbies game in Sydney I’d finally had enough of the privileged private school Sydney culture of the Waratahs and their smug sense of entitlement.

I jumped allegiance to the Brumbies then.
They don’t always win but you at least can admire their effort, pride and passion 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

We all choose our own fantasies Dennis 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

Excellent idea Dennis 🙂
Could be a win/win for both sides

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

OMG PaulD
If that’s even 2/3 true Rebels are indeed …… stuffed 🙁

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

@#8

Total Force fantasies vainly hoping to re-write history.

For 11 years the Force had very low crowd numbers, pathetic results, never made the finals and were routinely thrashed by everyone. They had to be financially bailed out by RA and lost control of their franchise. They chose rubbish coaches who made them play negative, 10 man rugby that bored everyone to despair while they continually grabbed defeat out of the claws of victory.

The Force were an embarrassing joke imo.

The only time the Perth locals got a little interested was when it was all too late in their final season when their head was on the chopping block. If they’d survived the chop Force would have immediately reverted back to same boring losers they’d always been. And Perth crowds would have returned to the usual 2 men and their dogs 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

@taylorman
As an ex randwick player I’m serious – I prefer to lose than play 10 man Jake ball.

Plus – you forget that pro rugby is an entertainment product in Aust competing in the worlds most competitive winter market with 4 football codes. The game here is in near financial bankruptsy largely due to a rapid decline in crowd numbers and TV ratings.

There’s no better way to wreck the game’s financial viability here than have 1 of your 4 provinces playing Jake ball. Guaranteed to bore everyone to despair in the hope of winning a few more games.

That was one of the Force’s issues. Not only were they losers – they were boring losers playing dour, negative kick fests for years. When White was Brumbies coach that was the start of the plummet in crowd numbers in Canberra.

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

@Bluesfan
While I agree with you another big problem Aust has now is getting high quality coaches to come here.

McKenzie would be crazy to return and is no chance.
After what Aust did to R. Deans only a desperate foreigner would take up a poisoned chalice coaching job here. Rennie would have far better options and so does Jake White.

As for White – I don’t want to see any Aussie team playing 10 man Jake ball again.
I’d prefer to lose 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

Well it was nice of Mr Hoiles to finally cease his ridiculous talking up the form of his mates at the Waratahs and say something worthy of serious consideration.

The financial demise of the Rebels may already be inevitable after this years disaster 🙂

Better with 3? Former Wallaby thinks Australia has too many rugby teams

@Will
Now after the result of another Rebels thrashing I’d like to highlight the case of Debrecenzi.

After 4 yrs with virtually no improvement at the Rebels Debrecenzi moved to the Chiefs this year with his rugby career in malaise. At the Chiefs he was 3rd pick flyhalf after the McKenzie brothers.

He finally got his chance last night and promptly played the best game I’ve ever seen from him. Even his defence was decent.

The dramatic improvement in his game after just 3/4 season at the Chiefs tells us everything we need to know about the difference in rugby culture and coaching between NZ and Australia. The same thing has happened to every Aussie player who has spent a season or 2 playing in NZ.

Everything NZ does in rugby is superior to Australia. Structures, culture, coaching, team work, strategies, game plans, skills, technique, speed, intelligence etc etc.

Australians need to ditch their arrogant superiority complex and start being humble learners of everything NZ does ????

Rebels need to make it a rough night for former teammate

As Bamboo has noted this may well be the end of he Rebels franchise but I’d like to highlight the case of Chiefs flyhalf (ex Rebel) Debrecenzi.

After 4 yrs with virtually no improvement at the Rebels Debrecenzi moved to the Chiefs this year with his rugby career in malaise. At the Chiefs he was 3rd pick flyhalf after the McKenzie brothers.

He finally got his chance last night and promptly played the best game I’ve ever seen from him. Even his defence was decent.

The dramatic improvement in his game after just 3/4 season at the Chiefs tells us everything we need to know about the difference in rugby culture and coaching between NZ and Australia. The same thing has happened to every Aussie player who has spent a season or 2 playing in NZ.

Everything NZ does in rugby is superior to Australia. Structures, culture, coaching, team work, strategies, game plans, skills, technique, speed, intelligence etc etc 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

No problema su engles Pyro….. y bienvenido aqui 🙂

Chiefs annihilate the disappointing Rebels to most certainly qualify for the playoffs

You’re right again Timbo 🙂

Cheika is a hypocrit imo – his biased selection policies for last 4 years are factor no 1 in anti team first policies. He’s put his own personal feelings for his Tah mates over the WB team’s best interests. And he’s gonna do it again in 2019.

"Team is king": Cheika speaks on Folau sacking

TWAS don’t agree with you there.
Pocock’s causes have never impacted on his, or team, performances – not even close.

Cheika is a hypocrit imo – his biased selection policies for last 4 years are factor no 1 in anti team first policies. He’s put his own personal feelings for his Tah mates over the WB team’s best interests.

"Team is king": Cheika speaks on Folau sacking

@ken
No actually cos Rebels play in the weakest conference.
If they were in the NZ conference they’d be in last position imo

Rebels need to make it a rough night for former teammate

@Will

Imo win/lose or draw tonight Rebels don’t deserve a place in the final series.

You concentrate of the Rebels attack – why?
Their biggest problem for the past 2 seasons has been their defence.
Wessels has had 2 seasons now to fix the Rebels defence but it shows no signs of improvement.
They were flogged 66-0 last week by a team Chiefs beat the week previous.

This week Rebels have Coleman and Maddocks out and Chiefs have the worlds best player and their captain back. Chiefs by at least 20 points imo 🙂

Rebels need to make it a rough night for former teammate

Oh this will be interesting to watch 🙂

Giteau has no coaching experience.
Gibson is another mate of Cheika with a poor coaching record with Australian teams.

B Smith is the best credentialed of the named candidates but ….. is he a close enough mate of Cheika and also a dedicated yes man?

Cheika has already stated this attack coach will do no more than assist in training the team in attack plans he develops. So the role is really “attack trainer”.

Wallabies set to finally name attack coach

It’s not demeaning anything – he wants the extra dollars for his family.

So Samu’s life priorities at age 25 are…… $$ first and playing for Wallabies somewhere down the list. Same obvious fact for everyone who makes the same decision as he’s done.

Wallabies tried to keep Kerevi: Johnson

OMG Rotgut
Why do you think Kerevi is leaving?
Is it cos he was offered less $$ overseas.
Or does his wife prefer Japanese food ?

Wallabies tried to keep Kerevi: Johnson

I’m not throwing any stones at Kerevi.
It’s a simple statement of fact – he’s gone for the money and can’t play again for the WBs until he returns on contract here. Who knows if that ever occurs.

He’s fully entitled to do this – good luck to him whatever.
Goodbye Samu 🙂

Wallabies tried to keep Kerevi: Johnson

yeah fair enuf Fionn – I’m not disputing any of that.

You’re giving one reason why he went for the $$ and I agree his family was likely a prime reason.

All I’m saying is – he’s gone for the $$ so obviously the $$ was more important to him than playing for the WBs 🙂

Wallabies tried to keep Kerevi: Johnson