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Kitwally,
The situation with international players highlights the importance of the A League which should be better able to work with National Teams than international competitions.
The proposal by some former NSL supporters that good young players can go overseas at an early age to continue their development is exposed for the folly it really is in this situation.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Irrespective of which “side” of this argument anyone is on, hopefully we can all agree it has been badly handled.
And for the FA to have to set up an “independent enquiry” to clear Adelaide, APL and FA seems an over-the-top reaction and a waste of resources.
Mind you, I bet Roar wished they hadn’t released Keegan after last nights performance.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
You summed it up nicely, you can’t do anything about overseas leagues. Unless it’s within an international window.
You can do something about the domestic league which is subservient to the national football federation.
It seems only football can find ways to drum up negative headlines and then, like a ship of fools, have people running around saying “nothing to see here” 😂
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Just had a quick read. Great how many times they use “national” and “regional”
Youngest ever Australia Cup scorer, another electric talent from Adelaide, and sons of Socceroos: Meet the future of Australian football
Because it is an either/or.
The AIS can play no part in developing players who have come through a system with a coaching team, club, State Rep sides & coaches! It would disrupt things and add no value.
Taking players out of their homes, out of the school they know, away from friends and families is a last resort and thinking that – out of the thousands of U16 kids nationally – we can identify the best 18 nationally and send them to Canberra for two years is absolute folly.
The AIS concept had its time, but today it would hold development back (as it did 15 years ago when some administrators/coaches resisted the new system and worked against it in favour of AIS)
The AIS “as was”, now exists in all the capital cities (Graham Arnold apparently doesn’t know this)
And why would you have an U23’s national team for the NSD? National teams must select the best and most appropriate players – not just those from a competition.
There’s a lot of work gone in to making these pathways perform, and a lot more to do, what we don’t need is a new flavour-of-the-month approach disrupting them.
The key word is pathway. It’s a planned and structured journey.
Youngest ever Australia Cup scorer, another electric talent from Adelaide, and sons of Socceroos: Meet the future of Australian football
Strangely enough I agree with that last comment
Macarthur spoil Irankunda's Adelaide farewell as 10-man Bulls survive last-gasp penalty in absolutely wild game
Great write-up, well done.
I’ve said for awhile that the pathways are working and producing technically gifted players who have a good appreciation for how football is played.
These pathways are also producing great young coaches as well.
It was a stuttering start 20 years ago with many people impatient for results not realising a broken system needed a generation to work their way through from basically mini-Roos, through (what was) SAP, and in to open football. And it did get restarted 12-ish years ago.
As a coach (and club VP) within the Queensland Academy System you could see the difference kicking in about 5-6 years ago in terms of the young players and the sheer volume of good young Australian coaches working with them.
10 years ago you couldn’t find a B Licence coach, now you’re tripping over them and many with a plan to go to A.
And all competitions are improving, from the junior pathways to NPL and even spilling over in to community competitions such as City and Metro leagues.
We need to remember though that talent generation is like fine wine production – some years are vintage, others not. Don’t panic if we have 2-3 poor years, it will come around if the system is allowed to work.
Australia is getting more things right than it is wrong in this space (and there’s still a lot wrong lol). And we need more of everything — believe me “a home for the Socceroos in Sydney” will make sweet FA difference to the pathways. Arnie will know that 😡
Does anyone still want to argue that we should close the pathways down and instead send the best 18 kids to the AIS for two years to see if we can create a golden generation once every 50 years …. anyone? ….. I’ll wait 😛
Youngest ever Australia Cup scorer, another electric talent from Adelaide, and sons of Socceroos: Meet the future of Australian football
With 10 minutes to go I’m thinking MacArthur might not make finals this year, then boom boom snd it’s Adelaide that might not make it.
Crazy stuff.
But when a club leaves themselves needing to win all their remaining games and for other results to go their way, it’s asking too much (yes Roar, that includes you!).
It was a great goal from Irankunda – he’s done enough recently to justify all the hype
Macarthur spoil Irankunda's Adelaide farewell as 10-man Bulls survive last-gasp penalty in absolutely wild game
This is turning in to an absolute sensational season for the football.
Can the message to the APL please, please, PLEASE, be to let the football do the heavy lifting …
Cut out the gimmicks & the short cuts & the crazy ideas
Get the club owners to run “good clubs” and not micro-manage the competitions
We don’t have to have a Sydney or Melbourne doing well for the competition to be successful (invariably one of them will be, but we don’t need it)
Level the playing field: fair draw, same rules for everyone, let clubs live n die by what their football departments do, not what decisions some anonymous suits make that deliberately favour one team over another.
Find a way to get and keep fans engaged – 7 Nation Army + Violinist … drink some of the Hindmarsh Kool-Aid … the Yellow Fever … but make fans want to be there.
Stop trying to manufacture things: let the clubs, coaches, players, fans, breathe life in to the competition.
This is a great season on the field. One of the best ever.
Macarthur spoil Irankunda's Adelaide farewell as 10-man Bulls survive last-gasp penalty in absolutely wild game
Okay then …
So, apparently there is a god …
S/he likes football …
And respects Fair Play …
1-2. Job Done.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Yes he was selected.
Yes he declined to travel.
Yes he should be stood down.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Unfortunately the under age group often play outside of international windows. Partly because they have more competitions.
What Aloisi learned out of that debacle was “don’t play youth” and within a year Roar went from having a low average age and giving youth a go to breaking records for the competitions oldest average age (which it took Graham Arnold to re-break – which was definitely his fault!).
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Too soon Football Fan, too soon 😔
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
So here we go then …
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The next time a young player is wanted by the national team but the club wants him not to go so engineer an excuse, he doesn’t go, and plays for the club instead.
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Realising how to get out of this, other clubs do the same, and suddenly the national teams are struggling.
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So in response, FA introduce a rule that says “if you’re called up for national duty you must go, if you don’t go then you can’t play for your club for the same duration as the call up” … they can prefix the rule with “yeah, I know we had the rule before but this time we really, really mean it”
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
I did too. But he was impressive to watch and has genuine potential.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Well yes, Graham Arnold is of course Frank Lowy’s love child after all
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
I don’t
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Bahahahahahahaha
No, no … that didn’t happen.
He was asked
😂 😂
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Well said. A mess that didn’t need to be a mess.
Is there any football on this weekend??
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Personally I’m blaming Graham Arnold for this #ArnieOut
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Yeah, they are “rules” call them what you will.
The club v country debate is always an issue. FA can only enforce a call up within the international window (this isn’t and that will be Adelaide’s position) but by agreement with a competition it can be enforced … but if it’s optional then why would any A League club release a player if they didn’t have to?
How many A League clubs released players for this completion?
Common sense helps but as we know Australian football is short on that.
Personally I would go to Suncorp just to see him play in that last round … but in the unlikely event Roar miss finals (or City who released players) because he’s playing and Keegan is not the A Leagues reputation will again suffer.
Are we not over shooting ourselves in the foot with self-inflicted negative headlines??
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
I maybe should have prefaced that first paragraph with “many people believe …”
Normally, if a player declines a call up they and their club are told of the pending stand down. In this case that hasn’t happened do I would suggest FA/APL have no intention of enforcing one.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
There is a protocol in place though: if you refuse a call up you can’t play.
If there are other issues in place that’s fine, but you still can’t play.
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
Grem
If this were a SFC (or WSW, City or Victory) player I’ve no doubt they would be allowed to play.
In employee relations the thing that causes the most friction is a lack of procedural fairness – if FA (and APL in support) follow a fair procedure then the player is stood down.
But Adelaide can quite rightly argue, you wouldn’t do this for SFC/City/WSW/Victory!
(and most of us would believe they’re right).
And both Adelaide and APL have been advertising the farewell game for tonight and selling tickets off the back of it – if FA now do the right thing and stand him down you’re going to have a lot of annoyed fans in Adelaide.
If any one wonders why the A League struggles this is another example of their incompetence!
A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty
“ It needs to have fans directly involved in shaping its future”
Well said 👍
How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?