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Head to head with the AFL Grand Final at the same time?? Hmm, not sure the NRL wants to see how the ratings go in that contest. I reckon there’s a fair few folks who watch both but if they had to choose……

Now that the dust has settled, let's talk about a few things

Last seen in the Super League season. Most ball sports have the team scored on with possession to restart play.

Now that the dust has settled, let's talk about a few things

Anyone not notice Papenhuyzen was taken out twice chasing his own kick, the one Olam scored on?? No? Anyone?

Now that the dust has settled, let's talk about a few things

So all next year’s premier has to do is re-locate to say, Adelaide, and live in motels for the duration and hey presto, Grand Finalists. Any ‘advantage’ Melbourne has gained from being stranded in QLD this season they have gained by their professionalism and superior club culture that has seen them take it all in their stride. Anyone remember when they played for zero points and were good enough to have finished in the eight.

Storm trounce Raiders to book grand final berth

Funny to read so many “the Storm were good but….” comments, as usual. See the obvious people. This club/franchise/team is THE most consistent in all of the NRL. Year in, year out they feature in end of season play and usually right up to the Grand Final. As Bellamy said, it’s damn hard to get to them and by doing so, win or lose, you have had a very good season. Not one big name signing in their history, an unending line of unknowns who become very known, very quickly. Regularly the highest point scorers and the best defense. A home record that has us fans extremely spoilt, we can almost remember every loss they happen that rarely. The Raiders peaked a week early but, hey, a place in the GF was at stake and they just weren’t up to it. I’m sure everyone will be hoping the Panthers get through and win it but I’m also sure Penrith would not have liked what they saw last night.

Storm trounce Raiders to book grand final berth

Too big, to fast, too strong. Like a few games of late, Team A gets out in front and looks to be manufacturing an upset only to see Team B keep their composure, stick to their plays and finish their sets building pressure until the inevitable happens and boom, game never in doubt. Well, at least the Storm did it without a dubious call from the referee, sorry about that Sharks. You can’t coach speed and the storm has it in abundance, possibly more than any other team.

Melbourne Storm past Parramatta in enthralling qualifying final

10 in the bin for mine, no Penalty try though.

Did the Sharks deserve more than a penalty for this?

How about we look at it in a different way. The governing body wanted to expand the Professional competition and did so. Pretty sure they wanted to make money as a result through new markets, new paying fans, new sponsors, new TV contracts. What junior players got was more opportunities to make it to the big time. On what criteria has the Melbourne Storm not delivered on that?

Makings of a champion: How the NRL top eight was built – Part 1

This guy’s a di##. The Storm live in a bubble?? Protected from ‘real’ Rugby League media?? I’d say Sydney Rugby League people are in the bubble where every nonsense opinion they spout about how great their game is or how great player X of Sydney team Y is are the delusion ones. Tall poppy syndrome pure and simple. Fancy having a club in Melbourne be the among the best your league has for almost the entire time it has existed. That’s gotta annoy. Compare the reactions to the two most recent Hip Drop tackles and see the disparity in reaction and labelling.

Paul Kent savages 'delusional' Cameron Smith over anti-Storm accusations, retirement uncertainty

There are Juniors in Melbourne, they do exist and you would think are better off for having the Storm here. As for clubs developing juniors what exactly does an NRL club do for juniors in their area in real financial terms on their own? I would suggest any funding comes from an ARL ‘pool’ which would, in effect, come from revenue generated by all RL sources including teams in non-rugby League heartlands. As for talent leaving your area and no thanks for “all your hard work” in developing it that argument could as easily apply to NRL clubs that ‘poach’ (I’m looking at you Roosters) players who other clubs have developed.

Makings of a champion: How the NRL top eight was built – Part 1

I’m guessing there would be little ‘talent’ to pick through here in Melbourne for the Storm so, yeah, I guess they have to look elsewhere. As for “picking the eyes out of rival programs” the reality is they spot real future talent long before most and are prepared to take on journeymen too because they, Melbourne, have the best Club Culture, player management, call it what you will, in the League. Every player that comes to Melbourne are astounded at the difference to where they’ve been before and become true professionals and almost every one of them has their best years in Storm colours ragardless of where else they go. Immortals aside that is.

Makings of a champion: How the NRL top eight was built – Part 1

The difference between this and the Junior Paulo effort a week or two ago is what exactly? Both players grabbed the hip and tried to drag the ball carrier down without any consideration for the position of the ball carrier’s legs. Both resulted in injury, both were penalised at the time BUT only one has been called out as pre-meditated and a deliberate attempt to injure. Remind me again where most, if not all, TV commentator’s hail from, what teams (if any) did they play for and which team do they always like to publicly criticise any chance they get?? Final question, is it Finals time?

Storm youngster savaged after nearly breaking Dragon's leg with ugly 'hip-drop'

Good one mate, I reckon I did hear on a game commentary the other week that indeed Penrith were the benficiaries of the most Set-Restarts in the NRL so the figures are available to some it seems. Shame they are not posted officially because they are essentially Penalties without the stoppage in play. Has anyone seen a team penalised for too many Set-Restarts given off, say while defending their line?? Did anyone go to the bin for such an occurrance or did it never happen?

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

For those interested, I’ve just looked at both Canberra and South Sydney to see who had the tougher draw coming in to the finals in comparison to the Top Four we’ve discussed.

The Raiders H&A opponents had a combined 54-46-0 Win-Loss record, that’s a little above the Roosters but still below Melbourne.
The Rabbitohs H&A opponents had a combined 43-57-0 Win-Loss record, not as tough as Penrith’s but a harder group than the Eels faced.

Conclusions, the Raiders have had a tougher campaign than two of the Top Four teams so, I expect them to go deep into this finals series and consider them a ‘dark horse’.
The Rabbitohs, notwithstanding their most recent outing, maybe not so much.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

That’s true Jimmy, although I cannot think of another NRL team that would have played so well for so little as the Storm did that season.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

I agree on the Warriors, their season has been the most extreme and with sacking their coach and losing players to the pressures of family and distance they have clearly pulled together as a unit and really done exceptionally well. If the other team you are referring to is Melbourne, well, they have made the best of the situation for sure, they always do, but it is no surprise that they are contenders, they always are. My point is that Penrith and to a lesser degree, Parramatta, may have a better Win-Loss record because of the schedule this season than if it had been a ‘normal’ year.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

Thanks Barry.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

I agree, and the Panthers on the other hand have had quiet the easy road of it by essentially not being on the road for most of the season. No doubting they are a good team playing very well but we have yet to see them tested fully. that’s what finals are all about and if they are good enough and their win-loss record is bona fide they will win through. I think the Roosters are there for the taking but I suspect they would have rather played the Eels first up.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

Been quietly wishing for a true Conference system for some time, so I’m in agreement with you there. This season is ‘special’ in that the NRL reduced the number of games to be played so I reckon those ‘extra’ five games you got are pretty significant. You play 5 bottom teams, you’re gonna do better than playing 5 top teams. Penrith’s only Home and Away opponent with a winning record was Parramatta. Storm faced 4 with winning records, The Roosters 3 and the Eels 1 – Penrith.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

I didn’t look at their Strength of Schedule because, well, the Top four are where it is usually at but perhaps I should. At least for the Rabbitohs and Raiders, maybe especially the Raiders as they have had a bit of dislocation to deal with through the season.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

Yeah, my bad. As much as I enjoyed Souths demolition of the Roosters I’m kinda still in shock that it happened on the eve of the finals and that, yes, it slipped the Eels (pun intended) into 3rd place.

Strength of schedule shows final NRL placings are not what they seem

I fail to see who upgrading at Penrith and Brookvale helps other than the two Rugba League Clubs that play there already and neither draw anywhere near 20 to 25,000 a game. No A-League teams would play at those venues and visiting Rugba League teams don’t drag too many supporters with them to those venues. That leaves Belmore and Kogarah. Granted I’ve been out of Sydney for 20 odd years now but I always understood Kogarah was limited due to the school next door and as for Belmore, really? It’s wedged between the railway and suburbia, there’s no parking and would residents want a crowds of 20,000 clogging up their streets anymore? I don’t have an answer but I think the horse bolted on this long ago, back when Rugby League clubs didn’t care about fan facilities, anyone old enough to have been to Parramatta in the 70’s, or Redfern or Lidcombe or Leichhardt? No wait, you can experience that 70’s feel at Leichhardt to this very day. I can’t see the Government selling this post Covid as a good idea.

Can government funding for NSW stadia still be justified?

Well, living in Melbourne we don’t get a lot of NRL discussion in our newspapers but I do recall the great Roy Masters writing in the SMH about the rule changes and he was of the firm opinion that the rule would be a challenge for them as perceived leading practitioners of the wrestle but he went on to say ….”The Storm quickly adjusted, rather than sulk that a cabal of influential advisers to incoming ARLC chairman Peter V’landys had successfully agitated for a rule designed to undermine them.” So, at least one highly connected Rugba League writer feels that, at least in part, the aim was to impact the Storm. It’s just pleasing, as ever, to see the club continue to win games, as they always do.

Are the Storm in decline and does the game want them dead?

So, how is the Six-Again changing that in any way? Now ALL teams, including Melbourne by the way, are , either by cynical exploitation or over-eagerness or just because, not back the required 10mtrs more often than not and THAT is now ruining the game as a spectacle – notice the low scores from a lot of teams who are struggling to gain metres in sets. As for ‘repeatedly breaking the rules’, League, like all sports have consequences for that in the rules. It’s just that when the referees blow penalties mugs like Superbrain Gould moan about it ruining the game. No, the infringements ruin the game. But now we can pretend all that is gone with the Six-Again keeping the game moving and hiding the infringements but also any analysis of whether the penalty was warranted.

Are the Storm in decline and does the game want them dead?

Surely you haven’t forgotten the Edmonton Eskimos of the 70s or the Alouettes of 2000’s or in hockey, the Oilers of the 80s?

Are the Storm in decline and does the game want them dead?