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That’s a toughy. But the ratings prior to the NRL and AFL kicking off up against the A-League were actually very good. An argument could be made that similar could be achieved by aligning with this proposed league. Less overall competition. Run the RC during the 6Ns window.

Then have both Aus and NZ join the PNC later in the year to play against the PI’s, the USA, Canada and Japan.

New Japanese league could save the Sunwolves

This could facilitate SA going north with Aus/NZ and Argentina alongside with a Fijian team left to form a 12 team competition running during the same window as the Japanese league and having the RC run in the same window as the 6Ns.

New Japanese league could save the Sunwolves

They kind of could with the return to the straight round robin which would feature SR with just 13 regular season games. Partner with the Japanese clubs to contract talent and run SR after the Japanese season is done.

New Japanese league could save the Sunwolves

It likely will. Especially if these teams are able to replicate the supposed budgets of the corporate teams they most definitely will increase the player drain. Which brings into question about what to do about the future of the game in both Aus/NZ.
From the general structure to the schedule of the respective competitions etc. It may become distinctly necessary to for Aus and NZ to go to a TT format scheduled alongside the proposed Japanese league.
There’s a few challenges for the game in terms of retention coming. The MLR has a number of teams looking to boost their purchasing power in the coming years with greater investment. Which while likely over a more protracted time frame will in time will put further pressure on retention of talent.

New Japanese league could save the Sunwolves

The nasty 10-20 overs happens now. Teams declaring to have a go at breaking through right before the end of the day to put their opposition on the back foot. The goal of what I’ve suggested is to never let games get too far out of hand for one team. Not to eliminate one teams dominance but to keep both teams in the game for as long as possible in order to keep the contest in play for as long as possible.
The goal would be to bowl out your opposition. Sure. But it would also be about accumulating more runs and not leaving the game as a draw. If you don’t accumulate the same number of runs then you lose. No draws. Forcing a result every time. By shortening the available overs teams cannot rack up unassailable scores leading the other no option for the opposition than trying to kill it but grimly holding on. You want teams to be looking at the scores in front of them with knowledge that they are actually achievable.
Shortening the innings will likely push up the run rate as team push to score as many runs as possible. This would also open up more opportunities for bowlers and fielders to takes advantage of the increased scoring pace. I think it would heighten the battle between both sets of players.

A proposal to save Test cricket

I actually had a similar thought to this recently. Essentially introducing an over limit for each team per innings. Something like 80 overs per innings with each team have two innings to bat and bowl.

This would shorten a match to roughly three days and hopefully push for more definite results. A run rate of 4.2 an over in the first innings would present the chasing team with a total of 336 to chase per inning. Which would be very doable and should see more enterprise from teams as in most cases the target should ever be too far out of reach in a final innings chase bar batting collapses. Which happen now.

A proposal to save Test cricket

Another SR format I would watch would also involve going back to the start of S12. As in, in retrospect we probably pushed for the wrong kind of expansion when S12 moved to S14. Instead of more teams we should have pushed for an extended schedule and below that looked to implement academy systems in both Perth and Melbourne that would then compete in either one of the 2 primary club competitions. Or even split between both.

We should have pushed for a full double round robin S12 which would have had our teams playing 22 games a season. Hosting 11 of them and playing 18 of those 22 in viewer friendly time zone. We’d have at present 33 games played in Australia. Which doesn’t sound great but considering we only had 32 played here this season and under the new proposed schedule with the axing of the Sunwolves we’ll only have 26.

I know some may complain about footprint but surely it would be better to have 3 teams all performing well and average 90-100k a match than 4/5 averaging 60-65k.

Now, we could look to do this now but it would require some reworking. First. We’d have to cut a 2nd team to bring our numbers down to 3. Then we’d have to get SA on board by supporting one of the 3 SR franchises from the Republic that have openly stated they would be happy to move north to bring their numbers to 3 plus the Jaguares. NZ can keep their 5. This would bring the numbers to 12. Then implement the double round robin with a 6 team finals series.

From our perspective. As part of cutting the 2nd team we could also work with GRR to remove the barriers to entry for a 2nd Aus team in that competition alongside signing an MOU to essentially farm out a number of out best emerging youngsters not already regulars in a SR squad to either the Force or the 2nd Aus team alongside returning Aus eligible players. This would provide these young guys with a higher level of competition than club footy and continued exposure to professional systems. It could also be expanded to the likes of HK and Singapore in a more limited extent as a means of retention if necessary.

We could then do as was done last year at Leichardt Oval and run a SR vs GRR game for Wallaby selection.

Depending on where the 2nd GRR team is based if the cut SR team isn’t in that location then an extension of the academy system for U18s/Schools could be set up and have them play in say the Shute Shield in place of the currently vacant 12th spot. As a means of keeping the pathway open.

What rugby competition would you like to watch?

In T20 and ODI it may work if it is limited to just the one sub per game. But I think a similar role is already filled by the all-rounder.

Is it time for cricket to embrace batting substitutions?

Rugby 7s was created in the 1880s. Not exactly the same thing.

Would a football “Big Bash” pique interest in the sport?

They made it an All-Star competition. And the BBL had a down year this season but up until that point had seen solid growth. We’ll have to wait and see how the 2nd year of the new TV deal pans out before declaring a decline.

Would a football “Big Bash” pique interest in the sport?

Depending on the game. But generally pretty close to double.

What rugby competition would you like to watch?

So, I with a few others track SR ratings over on Green and Gold Rugby. And I’m sorry to burst your bubble but the numbers actually suggest from an Australian perspective the games involving Australian teams in Australia actually rate higher than well every other game not involving Aus teams or Aus teams in NZ and certainly in SA. In fact, and again this is backed by knowing the numbers. Our derbies are our highest rating games. With the 1st Tahs/Reds game bringing in the highest regular season ratings of 128k.

In fact it is those games featuring Aus teams playing in NZ and most notably SA and Argentina that significantly impact the overall average.

A competition featuring time zone friendly games and Australian teams would using the number siggest a sizeable jump in the average.

Chuckle all you want. But the numbers don’t lie.

What rugby competition would you like to watch?

Another option would be have two ten team ‘leagues’ with NZ, SA and Arg forming one and the 4 Aus SR teams joining with the GRR teams to play in a two phased competition. First phase would involved 9 games against each of the teams in your ‘league’. The 2nd phase would use the rankings from the 1st phase with the teams ranked 1,3,5,7 and 9 from one ‘league joined by the teams ranked 2,4,6,8 and 10 for the 2nd lot of 9 games. Top 4 teams in each of these then go through to the finals.

That would provide teams with 18 games over 21 weeks hosting 9 games a piece. Maintain a level of derbies while breaking things up a bit with the more international element. Beyond that you could move into an expanded RC going from 4 to 6 teams and implement a 2nd Div. (also of 6 teams) playing one another once with two crossover games (RC teams playing 2nd Div. teams) with one in the July and one in the November Test windows. Or expand it to 8 teams split into two pools of 4 playing home and away in each pool and one game against the teams from the other pool once. First past the post in both circumstances. Could also implement a 2nd Div. along the same lines with in both instances the bottom ranked team in the RC replaced by the winner of the 2nd Div.

Going with the 6 team RC the obvious inclusions are Japan and Fiji and a 2nd Div. of Samoa, Tonga, USA, Canada, plus two more based on growth, development and commercialisation. The 8 team set up would give you the opportunity to go a little more along the lines of rankings with the RC involving the current 4 Fiji, Japan, Tonga and Georgia and the 2nd Div. featuring Samoa, USA, Spain, Romania, Russia, Canada, Uruguay and Namibia.

What rugby competition would you like to watch?

I’m very aware they are different sports.

A women's baseball league is coming to Australia

If that is true then they’re cooked because if they honestly don’t think their job is to generate enough revenue to ensure the game is adequately funded in this country then put a fork in them they are already done.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

I tend not to go all in for the messiah angle with Forrest but he does represent something I have long thought that should happen in Rugby in this country. A separation of the pro game from pretty much every other aspect.
This would allow for it to finally focus on what’s best for it and not the national team in its operations while seeking out beneficial financial arrangements and investment.
Personally, I’d like to see the 4 Aus SR squads jump across to GRR while lowering the salary cap to no more than $4m a season for the main squad. Yes, we will see Wallabies go offshore. But that’s not the worst thing. Instead of the current level of top ups we are seeing with match payments added RA could open up selection to include OS players with only match payments included. At least for a while this would probably be the preferred model with the focus on the current pro squads to look at further expanding the pro base and retaining emerging talent.
The money (which would be between $1.4-1.6m per squad) saved could be the either used to ensure the continued operation of the respective teams or used to retain our top line emerging talent.
This would then allow GRR to have 12 teams and potentially run a 22 round schedule.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

Yep. Building a new training base onsite.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

Why? I’m actually surprised the ABL is still a thing let alone there being the appetite for a Women’s League. Especially considering Softball is far more popular. If it was the ABL sponsoring a Womens Softball League that would make a whole lot more sense.

A women's baseball league is coming to Australia

Apparently Zenit (another big multi-sport club in Russia) are launching their own Rugby team that will play in the RPRL. Pretty sure they’ll have access to a good sized facility from day one. Their main sponsor is set to be Gazprom. Which is one of Russia’s largest companies.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

Russia, Georgia and Romania all have pro leagues though budgets tend to vary from team to team.

There’s a couple others in development. The Spanish clubs are currently drawing up plans to transition La Liga Heineken to a prpfessional league and the Dutch and Belgian Union set up the BeNe Cup this year. Four teams in two pools from each Union featured playing three games each with the top 2 playing in the finals. This year they will be playing home and away for 6 games plus a 4 team final series. Eventually it will grow tp 10 games plus finals and then new teams will be added possibly including teams from other nations until it forms its own pro league.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

No details have been released but there’s been meetings going on between the heads of the Russian and Georgian Unions with mention of Romania and even Germany. Still quite early on but things are slowly moving forward. Apparently.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

Uruguay beat Colombia 36-24 in Montevideo. That’s actually a pretty good result for Colombia. They’re a good shot at beating Chile and potentially even Brazil to claim a solid 3rd place in the championship. They’re really progressing very quickly and are putting in place the necessary pieces to maintain that growth long term.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

A kind of provincial competition held between teams from Kenya (5), Uganda (2) and Tanzania (1) that ran up until 2011.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

The Nations Championship funding could be transformational for the likes of Kenya et al. It could see the return of the Bamburi Cup and involve Zimbabwean teams at an increased level of professionalism never seen before.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

Many. The French and Welsh are in favour of it. The English were posturing for more money the only real holdouts are the Irish and Scottish.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war