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If that is true then they’re cooked because if they honestly don’t think their job is to generate enough revenue to ensure the game is adequately funded in this country then put a fork in them they are already done.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

I tend not to go all in for the messiah angle with Forrest but he does represent something I have long thought that should happen in Rugby in this country. A separation of the pro game from pretty much every other aspect.
This would allow for it to finally focus on what’s best for it and not the national team in its operations while seeking out beneficial financial arrangements and investment.
Personally, I’d like to see the 4 Aus SR squads jump across to GRR while lowering the salary cap to no more than $4m a season for the main squad. Yes, we will see Wallabies go offshore. But that’s not the worst thing. Instead of the current level of top ups we are seeing with match payments added RA could open up selection to include OS players with only match payments included. At least for a while this would probably be the preferred model with the focus on the current pro squads to look at further expanding the pro base and retaining emerging talent.
The money (which would be between $1.4-1.6m per squad) saved could be the either used to ensure the continued operation of the respective teams or used to retain our top line emerging talent.
This would then allow GRR to have 12 teams and potentially run a 22 round schedule.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

Yep. Building a new training base onsite.

Twiggy: The hero we need but not the one RA deserves

Why? I’m actually surprised the ABL is still a thing let alone there being the appetite for a Women’s League. Especially considering Softball is far more popular. If it was the ABL sponsoring a Womens Softball League that would make a whole lot more sense.

A women's baseball league is coming to Australia

Apparently Zenit (another big multi-sport club in Russia) are launching their own Rugby team that will play in the RPRL. Pretty sure they’ll have access to a good sized facility from day one. Their main sponsor is set to be Gazprom. Which is one of Russia’s largest companies.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

Russia, Georgia and Romania all have pro leagues though budgets tend to vary from team to team.

There’s a couple others in development. The Spanish clubs are currently drawing up plans to transition La Liga Heineken to a prpfessional league and the Dutch and Belgian Union set up the BeNe Cup this year. Four teams in two pools from each Union featured playing three games each with the top 2 playing in the finals. This year they will be playing home and away for 6 games plus a 4 team final series. Eventually it will grow tp 10 games plus finals and then new teams will be added possibly including teams from other nations until it forms its own pro league.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

No details have been released but there’s been meetings going on between the heads of the Russian and Georgian Unions with mention of Romania and even Germany. Still quite early on but things are slowly moving forward. Apparently.

Is Russia ready to host the Rugby World Cup?

Uruguay beat Colombia 36-24 in Montevideo. That’s actually a pretty good result for Colombia. They’re a good shot at beating Chile and potentially even Brazil to claim a solid 3rd place in the championship. They’re really progressing very quickly and are putting in place the necessary pieces to maintain that growth long term.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

A kind of provincial competition held between teams from Kenya (5), Uganda (2) and Tanzania (1) that ran up until 2011.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

The Nations Championship funding could be transformational for the likes of Kenya et al. It could see the return of the Bamburi Cup and involve Zimbabwean teams at an increased level of professionalism never seen before.

Global wrap: Colombia, UAE and Ukraine on the rise

Many. The French and Welsh are in favour of it. The English were posturing for more money the only real holdouts are the Irish and Scottish.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Link?

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

There was an early article suggesting they’d be cut out. But that’s been disproved. Fiji are actually going to feature in the 1st Div and thus will receive the same funding as Rugby Australia. Samoa and Tonga being in the 2nd Div will see less but still significantly more than at present. The direct funding for the Nations Championship will be £377m ($691m) per year. From the official WR model the model has a 12 team 1st Div. A 10 team 2nd Div and a 3rd Div composed of 4 x 6 regional competitions.

I could easily see the 1st Div taking up 50% of the funding receiving £15-18($27.5-33m)/year each. That still leaves another plenty to provide the likes of the 2nd and 3rd Div in a significant influx of direct funding.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

I averaged it out to be roughly $300m at each event going from the 2015 event. France has already guaranteed $275m plus whatever the WR share is of the sponsorship etc.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Aus and NZ will likely have a 2nd Bledisloe. But there could be opportunities in other areas. Like the week of the final. The 1st Div teams not featuring in the final could commit to playing a game against a 2nd Div team in whichever nation that may be. An extra game really isn’t that much of a stretch.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

The JRFU had to pay a yearly bond to compete and they never really got the Corporations on side. This saves them money. Not trying to overlook SANZAAR’s failures but it wasn’t just SANZAAR behind the move.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Issue is the Japanese Union wanted out of the Sunwolves arrangement as well in favour of reorganising their Top League into 3×8 divisions and moving their season to align more with SR. According to reports they’ll be included in the RC from 2022.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Kind of sucks for the T2 nations but the opportunity of increased funding which would allow for greater investment in HP programs and even professionalism would see it develop rather quickly. They are also suggesting an expansion of the RWC from 20 to 24 teams to maintain it as the pinnacle of the sport.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Fiji has the depth. What they’ve struggled with in the past is being able to get their squad together for enough time to build combinations. Once they do start to develop those combinations they become very dangerous.

As for the money. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. Ideally, it could allow them to pretty professionalise their provincial competition with change but there’s a chance of it going pear shaped.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

It’s why they’ll likely have a grace period before it becomes an option. The article suggests it won’t be a thing in the NH until 2030.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Yes. But there’s a difference between those and the WR ones. The independent bids are for a 30% and 100% ownership stake in the Championship which will in effect remove the ability to control where it is broadcast, sponsorship, ticket sales etc. Which is important to the 6 Nations Unions as FTA ensure big ratings and coverage.

The WR one actually allows for the 6 Nations Unions to maintain control over the Championship, FTA exposure and other revenues. Particularly in the UK. So the independent offers in the short term it may result in more money long term it could significantly impact the overall health and thus commercial strength of the Championship.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Yeah, but the PI’s don’t fall under the auspices of RA. It’s not their job to develop the Islands. So it doesn’t matter whether the NRL is in a better position than RA. WR is in a better position than the NRL.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

And Fiji will have a team in GRR next year and when the WR deal goes through a guaranteed 11 international games a season.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Yep. And WR are currently working toward having serious resources in which to wage such a war. More so than the NRL could possibly muster.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war

Including 2020. The current deal runs through to 2021. So any new deal would start in 2021.

League and union cannot afford an all-out Pacific code war