Nine alternatives to evidence based opinion

By hittingthevalve / Roar Guru

After a fortnight which has required the Australian football community to address some quite heavy and serious issues, including the Fury being dropped, disappointing ACL efforts by the Australian teams and the resignation of another Sydney FC CEO, it might be an opportune time for some levity to be introduced into proceedings.

A more frivolous and trivial distraction to lift the mood with a discussion about something that all football fans have – an opinion.

There is a hope that politicians will develop and pursue policies based on the best available evidence.

There certainly is an expectation that medical practitioners choose a course of treatment based on the latest best practice medical techniques backed up by rigorous testing and evidence.

So should football opinions, as far as possible, be evidence based? (If you have trouble equating the same importance to football as medicine and politics please refer to the great Bill Shankly who said “Someone said ‘football is more important than life and death to you’ and I said ‘Listen, it’s more important than that’.”)

But what if there is no evidence on which to base your opinion on? For example, unless you were a member of the Fury FC board or had intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the FFA, any opinion you have on the matter is relying on the accuracy of reporting on this issue.

Should that stop you expressing your opinions? Should only the Liverpool-era Rafa’s amongst us be allowed to engage in the debate because we have the FACTS?

Of course not.

Here I aim to present the different ’football opinion personalities’ I have been able to identify and the alternative types of opinion they generate.

My thanks must go to Professor David Issacs and Dominic Fitzgerald whose core idea and humour from their article (Seven alternatives to evidence based medicine; BMJ 1999; 319: 1618) I have lifted and adapted for a football audience.

I hope no egos will be harmed in the reading of this article.

Eminence based opinion

The more senior the person, the less importance they place on the need for anything as mundane as evidence. Experience, it seems, is worth any amount of evidence. If they saw the 1974 World Cup qualifying campaign in person, then they can do no wrong.

They have been there, done that, bought the T-shirt and have a respected standing in their football club or community. Often they can be identified by their white hair and receding hair line which is called the ‘halo effect’.

Younger generations may regard these people as throwbacks to an irrelevant era and are sceptical of the faith these people place in experience which could be defined as holding the same misguided opinions with increasing confidence over an impressive number of years.

Vehemence based opinion

The substitution of volume for evidence is an effective technique for brow beating more timid people and convincing them of your superiority.

Volume is a good measure in the real world, while in the online world excessive use of CAPITAL letters and exclamation marks identify this personality.

Eloquence based opinion

If you look good or sound good (or use an attractive font and big words) whilst expressing your opinion you are halfway there already. Sartorial elegance and verbal eloquence are powerful substitutes for evidence.

Pairing an expensive Armani suit with a cheap club scarf can give you an instant veneer of credibility. In the online world, no abbreviations or slang are used by this personality type when a quote from Longfellow cleverly inserted into an article will do.

Providence based opinion

If this personality type has no idea about what to say about a particular football issue, they will usually defer to their version of the Almighty and quote what they said in relation to a particular matter.

In this case the Almighty might be their preferred eminent football analyst (e.g. the Church of Fozzie), their favourite colourful and controversial preacher (e.g. the cult of the Bosnich) or the deciphered prophecies from their favourite oracle (e.g. the Oracle of Lowy or the even more incomprehensible Oracle of Blatter).

This personality type can usually be identified by their level of religious fervour and dedication to their chosen deity no matter what they say.

Nervousness based opinion

It’s hard to pin down this personality type because it is unclear where they stand in relation to any football issue. Fear of being questioned about why they hold a particular opinion means they will always be sitting on the fence.

Frequent use of the phrase ‘on the other hand’ or a lack of definite conclusions are symptoms that can be used to identify this type whose motto is ‘The only bad opinion is the one I haven’t put out there yet.’

Arrogance based opinion

This personality type operates with a world view where opinions are given out as fact and no explanations are necessary. The usual identifying feature is over use of the phrase ‘because I said so.’

Some parties would place Messrs Wilson and Fitzsimons into this category and note the overlap with characteristics of the eminence and eloquence based opinion types.

Annoyance based opinion

This type of personality type operates from the starting point that if you bombard everybody with your opinion often enough people will come around to your viewpoint eventually.

What they don’t realise is that everybody just gives in to shut them up. It doesn’t matter if their opinion is valid or not, this personality type is relying on the sheer force of their excessive talking or writing to saturate their audience with their viewpoint till it becomes impossible to ignore and you just cave in.

Webidence based opinion

Symptoms for this personality type include excessive pasting of links, references to said links and Wikipedia being the first entry on their web browsers ‘favourites’.

This type typically confuses actual knowledge with having the ability to know where to look for answers.

This personality type excels in the online world but will be as useful as a Dirk Kyut first touch in a crowded box at a football club trivia night if there is no Wi-Fi coverage.

Effervescence based opinion

This personality type can usually be heard voicing their opinions only after the consumption of a large number of alcoholic drinks. Whether they are from a can, keg or bottle, there is a direct relationship between the number of drinks consumed and the strength of their conviction.

In the real world, slurred speech and an inability to stand upright without assistance easily identifies members of this type while in the online world poor spelling or the lack of any cogent argument can be used as the best way to recognise this type.

I’ll throw this one out to The Roar community. What personality type are you? Are there any other types out there?

The Crowd Says:

2011-03-09T07:07:41+00:00

Roon

Guest


"phycological"??? As in study of seaweed? This category of opinion belongs in the deeps of Brisbane Water, off Gosford!

2011-03-09T03:26:12+00:00

French Fries

Guest


Cripes, I posted an ALL CAPS comment on here some days ago and some humourless sod has not seen the irony and has removed it. Now that IS ironic. HTV, I was pointing out the prevalence of the raving mad opinion poster. He knows who he is...

2011-03-08T11:01:37+00:00

jupiter53

Guest


Great post. I'm fond of the absurdly hopeful opinion and its obverse, the totally pessimistic opinion. I would diagnose them as forms of magical thinking. How to do it? Expound a set of reasons why a course of events should occur [for example, why Australia is a certainty for the 2022 World Cup] based on no real knowledge [after all only the members of the FIFA executive had any real knowledge]. Then vehemently proclaim the certainty of this course of events. Don't forget to abuse anyone who raises any doubt as a saboteur. The magical thinking is in the unacknowledged belief that asserting something fiercely enough will make it come true. The totally pessimistic opinion is a variant where the propounder of the opinion doesn't want to tempt fate by asserting that the desired outcome could occur. These people believe that if you let the universe know that you want something too much it won't happen. Personally I plead guilty to all of the above; sometimes several variants collide in the same post, and occasionally even in the same sentence.

2011-03-07T23:13:49+00:00

Roger

Guest


^ This.

2011-03-07T10:13:01+00:00

Professor Rosseforp

Guest


My preferred technique is "opinion-based opinion". Just like doctors read the evidence-based journals, and realise it's all pure tosh, and they know better -- I have my opinions, and rarely let facts get in the way. I think it goes against the spirit of blogging to actually research a topic, or even think about it too deeply.

2011-03-07T09:57:49+00:00

KP

Guest


Nah, he still shanked those balls, just that he simply couldn't miss from there!! If your 1st touch is only 1 yard out, doesn't need to be brilliant.

2011-03-07T03:24:28+00:00

BES

Guest


I'll have a stab at another very prevalent category that may have been missed here. Lets call it the : "convince myself based opinion" or perhaps "If i wish it could be hard enough it was" category. A more extreme recent case of this category had a coach - and then via the "Eminence based opinion method" thereafter the entire following of a certain team - fall into this category to a possibly phycologically damaging level when faced with the facts of having played a certain other team 4 times with 3 losses and a draw, they then played them a fourth time and threw away a 2 goal lead to once again fail to win - in the process having conceded 13 goals while scoring 6 - yet said team then pronounced with a deft combination of vehemence, providence and arrogance (but certainly very little eloquence and perhaps no small touch of nervousness) that said defeated team had thereby gained a "phycological win". Of course a case this extreme to the point of such myopic delusion is somewhat rare, but does make the point rather clearly.

2011-03-07T03:04:42+00:00

Art Sapphire

Guest


Ha, ha - very good, HTV. Here is another category. 'Revolving name opinions" This special title is bestowed to those who have changed their "name" on a number of occasions. Even being anonymous can have credibility issues ;)

2011-03-07T02:52:20+00:00

Ben of Phnom Penh

Guest


I think we may all be guilty of doing that which certainly added to the enjoyment, not least trying to determine where we fit in ourselves.

2011-03-07T02:19:45+00:00

Brett McKay

Guest


nice one HTV, this one's heading for the pool room. One question though, did you have think of particular Roarers as you wrote this?? I definitely thought of a few while reading....

2011-03-06T23:58:24+00:00

Simmo

Guest


dammit, that's what I wanted to say

2011-03-06T23:52:08+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


Well done! I can see a potential 10th category - "all of the above"-based opinion? ;-) And, after watching Mr Kuyt demolish my Man Utd boys, perhaps, we need another example of poor touch in a crowded box?

2011-03-06T23:13:23+00:00

whiskeymac

Guest


I should have aggressively caps locked a response but dont think you would understand it, or maybe in some retrospection believe to do so wld appear pusillinamous. I might have googled that word. Anyway how dare you pigeon hole me, do you even attend HAL games? Do you? Do you? Do you? hopefuly thats enough of a smokscreen before i get back onto my whiskey and ginger wine. =)

2011-03-06T23:11:46+00:00

Elisha Pearce

Expert


Well done htv. I probably use all of those techniques at different times and about different sports to be honest. Vehmenence, arrogance and annoyance were all in full swing last night when I was cheering on LFC with a mate going for ManU! Haha.

2011-03-06T22:32:02+00:00

Fivehole

Guest


Nice article. You may need to change the Dirk Kuyt reference after todays efforts against ManYoo though

AUTHOR

2011-03-06T21:57:17+00:00

hittingthevalve

Roar Guru


Could that be a case of nervousness based opinion whiskeymac? Thought a lighter-type subject was in order as sometimes we can all get caught up in the serious side of football.

2011-03-06T20:57:19+00:00

whiskeymac

Guest


Good change of pace. Won't say too much in response to it in case pigeon holing ensues, but good to see at least one article this morning that doesn't harp on about doom and gloom.

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