Battle between free will and total control in NRL

By Luke Doherty / Roar Guru

Sometimes the CEO of an NRL club must feel like the father of several teenagers. Each night he goes to bed hoping that all of his players are tucked up in bed after a warm glass of milk and a couple of cookies.

It would be easier for a CEO to rest if he could be guaranteed that every one of his employees was tucked up in bed dreaming of scoring the match winning try in a grand final, instead of being out on the town.

Like a father, the early morning ring of a CEO’s mobile phone must send chills down his spine.

What did he miss? What happened after dark? Which one of his boys is on the other end of the line?

Yesterday, Eels CEO Paul Osborne accompanied his star playmaker Jarryd Hayne to Parramatta police station.

The 23-year-old had been celebrating a friends birthday at the Beach Haus nightclub in Kings Cross when he allegedly retaliated to an assault, reportedly a headbutt.

A 25-year-old man sustained a cut above his eye and was taken to St Vincent’s Hospital, but left before receiving treatment.

The club says Hayne has done nothing wrong and the 25-year-old also claims he’s not to blame.

Hayne and Kings Cross have history.

In March 2008, he narrowly escaped injury when a man fired shots from the back of a taxi at around 4am. Those bullets could’ve ended his career and his life.

The first reaction of people I spoke to last night was why do footballers continue to venture into the area?

In 2008, the Roosters, Manly and Cronulla all barred their players from going to the party strip.

Willie Mason, part of the Roosters squad at the time, said it was just common sense.

Current Roosters CEO Steve Noyce, in charge of the Wests Tigers at the time, took a different view.

He wasn’t in favour of black listing Kings Cross as it was up to his players to deal with the difficulties that society can throw up.

So do players need to live and die by their own choices?

Or should those choices be made for them with the consequences spelled out?

Would your employer make it a condition of your contract that you couldn’t visit a certain area of the city?

How would you respond if they did?

If you would think it’s unreasonable should it be any different for football players just because they have a profile?

There’s a lot to be said for free will and an individual being responsible for where they are at any given time, but sometimes it sure can make life difficult.

The Crowd Says:

2011-07-25T16:14:45+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

Guest


That's why we have laws Johnno. Why can a member of the press stalk somebody, when a regular member of the public is not permitted ? Newspaper sales were higher when journalistic integrity was at its peak. Karma is currently doing her thing by vastly reducing profits in media organisations to a point where most are currently in financial difficulties. I lay the blame squarely upon editors, and owners who believe that sensationalism sells over real news. People in general will read what ever is placed in front of them, and when your choice of newspaper is between one of two firms, then what option do you really have ? Even I have had to stoop as low as reading a No Idea, when waiting at the Doctors, because that's all they had ! There's a saying that goes - sex sells. I believe that love sells a whole lot better - and to back my theory up, you only need to ask yourself which company has sold and released the highest dollar value in films and dvd's. The answer is Disney !

2011-07-25T15:13:09+00:00

karlos

Guest


Mate of mine put it that they have "remote control" parents who have made them immature and irresponsible. But in general theNRL players have behaved very well this past 12 months.

2011-07-25T12:02:01+00:00

Johnno

Guest


I no some of my behaviour resembles like other readers of tabloid crap resembles a bored housewife more smart than that but i do admit guilt for acting like one when i read these media nonsense and think the nonsense they write about is crap Dean, and i am a bloke who almost never has bought a like new Idea or Woman's day. And i read a fair amount of world news and serious stuff in the world. And the tabloid stuff is such forgetful nonsense. but it still reels numbers in, the scandals of these people, and it is and industry where everyone is on it, the reader, the media, the high profile people, it is like a pyramid scam. So I think it is a human nature issue here. Many people and why this is the case is beyond me, clearly like to see what sorid details , and things like sex scandals high profile people are doing. it is linked to this thing i think of so called breaking down this image of successful people as showing there human like the rest of us mentaility. Jarryd Hayne even mentioned it tonight in his press conference, how he is human and would like to go out and not live like he was in a cage. And Paul Osborne said he wish he did live like that. And Hayne said something like i bet you would. So delving deeply into these famous peoples lives is like a game of cat and mouse, and hunting them down to expose the facade that they are so humanly respectable,a nd don't have sex, eat junk food, do outragous behaviour, and show fallacies to drug and alochol addiction. And the readers equally but into clearly stories about sensational falls form grace eg Alan Bond form australia's richest man to in jail, Christopher Skase when he was alive, and the princess diana story of a princess hounded by the media then dying at a fairly young age. Clearly there are some people out there who love to read about the failings and problems, and outragous behaviour of the bold the beautiful and the rich and talanted. So I blame the readers more than the papparazzi, because it is the readers that keep these paparazzi in employment

2011-07-25T11:19:17+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

Guest


Come on Johnno - you're not a bored housewife, so why worry about what other folks are up to ? I just don't understand the attraction to all of the rubbish printed in these brain-dead publications. Personally I couldn't care less what brand of clothing someone wears, or where they took their last holiday. There's an abundance of newsworthy stories and events throughout the world that should be covered by the media yet are not. In my opinion there's no difference to them and the operators of Woolworths and Coles, who pile chocolates at the front of every counter so that kids can continue to beg and annoy their parents, and the grocery store can make an additional sale. Either way - I recognise it as poor form.

2011-07-25T10:50:52+00:00

Johnno

Guest


But does that Dean make the reader just as bad who keeps the paparazzi in employment, by reading the articles and gossip stuff that the paparazzi report. I myself read the gossip sections about celebrities private lives in the newspapers, more than i read about world news or the economic pages. Is the reader just as morally bad as the Paparazzi by reading there nonsense. And what about the celebrities that do sensationailst behaviour to attract the papparazzi's attention or reveal scandals about there private life to generate publicity if they have an upcoming movie for example or are in need of work and want to get back into the public's attention again. I think these type or celebrities , and the readers who read this tabloid stuff that the paparazzi do are just as ethically and morally bad.

2011-07-25T08:33:34+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

Guest


What happens in Vegas......................... Old enough to vote, old enough to go to war, old enough to accept responsibilty for your own actions. An easy resolution is to pay players on a per match basis. If they stuff up, and someone else has to fill their shoes on the paddock, then the new arrival scores the cash. Simple. The same applies if you're a professional in any other form of work - you're sacked and replaced, and the new entrant receives your salary. It's absolutely no ones business other than your own what you do outside of your profession. These matters with J Hayne are not even news-worthy, and are a beat-up designed to maximise media profits at a low cost. The only people it should concern are Jarrod, his supposed victim, and the police. Paparazzi hound people so they can get a glimpse of what might be underneath their clothing, where they might eat, or to take snap-shots of them enjoying some time at the beach. These cretons are no better than peeping-toms or stalkers, and should be held accountable in a court of law for their actions. Imagine if someone set up a tele-photo lens across the road from your place? Would you call the police and have them reported ? Why are paparazzi allowed to intrude where others can't ? The media should be ashamed of themselves for publication of such photos, and the related written word which usually contains more lies than truth, only then for their lawyers to negotiate out of court settlements with the victims. No employer has the right to tell an employee how to approach their social life outside of work if it's within the law - full stop.

2011-07-25T05:58:42+00:00

Kento

Guest


Update - looks like Hayne's all clear: http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/07/25/hayne-makes-peace-with-nightclub-foe/

2011-07-25T05:37:25+00:00

NF

Guest


That was quick but it does show how quickly a night out can turn into a disaster thankfully it all sorted hopefully and I mean hopefully Hayne get it's through his Hayne-brain to stop being an idiot and smarter up for once it's not that hard all it takes it some common sense mixed with some logic to realize when to walk away from dangerous situations.

2011-07-25T05:34:35+00:00

Melanie Dinjaski

Roar Guru


Update- http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/07/25/hayne-and-assailant-drop-police-action/

2011-07-25T05:23:53+00:00

Melanie Dinjaski

Roar Guru


A resolution of sorts. http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/07/25/hayne-makes-peace-with-nightclub-foe/

2011-07-25T04:44:26+00:00

Jaceman

Guest


Innocent until all the facts are in...

2011-07-25T04:09:53+00:00

clipper

Guest


Johnno - that is the problem. They have 'helicopter' parents who hover over them, then protective employers who they know will sort out any troubles, so they don't take any responsibility. Tennis and Golf fans, in my opinion, will tolerate less shenanigans from their stars than footy fans, who will often offer all sorts of excuses for their stars when they get up to no good. Whereas guys like Hayne can go around head butting, and their fans will rally to their cause, Tiger Woods has lost a lot of cache through his moral hi jinks, and has paid the price by losing sponsors and sliding down the rankings.

2011-07-25T04:06:20+00:00

Melanie Dinjaski

Roar Guru


Going out with mates certainly not a big deal JVGO. But if we are to believe what little we know, which is that there was a headbutt followed by fisticuffs, then it is a big deal. What was a fun night out has suddenly turned into assault. Criminal charges can be laid. Unfortunately, that's the reality of the world we live in. Actions have consequences. Even if you were just out with mates. And age doesn't let you you escape those consequences.

2011-07-25T04:03:06+00:00

Melanie Dinjaski

Roar Guru


The minute this news came out, the headline told you everything you needed to know. Key words being "Kings Cross", "early hours", and "brawl". It's just naive for anyone to think nothing bad can come out of that situation. Maybe 9/10 times it might result in a wild night out with mates, and even a successful bonding session that could indeed pay dividends on the field and in the team cohesiveness in general. But is it worth the risk of that one other time when something goes down that will bring the game into disrepute and hurt the team and club? Still not enough details to properly understand what Hayne did and what this other fellow did and the background to what sparked it all. But I say it again - "Kings Cross", "early hours", and "brawl". Says it all.

2011-07-25T03:58:16+00:00

Charles

Guest


Who cares, it is their life and they have a responsibility to act a a citizen, just like all of us. If they break the law it is a police matter, it is that simple. Clubs should not have a say in a player social life, unless they have broken the law, or it is affecting their football. Then they can determine whether it has an effect on the club or not! This silly notion that a player is a role model, is something every parent make aware to their children, that players are human and they do make mistakes and more so because of their high profile.

2011-07-25T03:40:48+00:00

JVGO

Guest


Mitch, he is 23 years old and that's where his friends were celebrating. Almost every 23 old in Sydney is in the X at least once a month. This incident is unfortunate but hardly a big deal.

2011-07-25T03:21:02+00:00

Brett McKay

Guest


very good boys!!

2011-07-25T03:05:33+00:00

Brendan

Guest


I reckon there is a real market you could tap into... :)

2011-07-25T02:18:30+00:00

The Cattery

Roar Guru


Mitch, agreed, and that's what fast Eddie is intimating - but we're not just talking the Cross when it comes to high profile footballers (or even low profile footballers), any public place where the alcohol is flowing freely, even if the footballer is drinking water - nothing good can ever happen after 2am, or even midnight as you say. To quote J. J. Cale: After midnight....

2011-07-25T01:58:21+00:00

M1tch

Roar Guru


...if you put yourself in wrong place that is why be in the cross anytime after midnight..no matter who you are trouble can and does happen, and if you are a high profile footballer then its almost guaranteed something will happen

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