Has sporting apartheid arrived in Sydney?

what's the bet that some of the posters the other way have links within the NSW Soccer federation or NSWRL? And, IF Stabpass were linked to GWS, then, perhaps there might be some 'informed' discussion rather than the far ranging waffle and delirium contained herein.

Hey Fuss have a look at this . ( http://education.theage.com.au/cmspage.php?intid=135&intversion=67 ) .

I have really enjoyed, exposing the shams, lies, mistruths, and the fear, paranoia and hate on this thread by quite a number of RL and soccer fans , and showing them up, for what they are .....whats your excuse, and where do you fit in Bob ?.

Get a life.

Justifying nothing, exposing outright lies, would be the truth of the matter. It appears you are trying to justify your fear of Australian football, through the continuing nonsense you post.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, they play RL on those 2 grounds, that is all. They dont play cricket or netball on the RL fields stated, they are SEPARATE venues, they also have athletics at Gipps rd complex, hockey as well, but it is a SEPARATE ground. They dont play RU at either of those grounds either, just RL. Are you honestly expecting me to believe that that play RL on hard court netball courts, give it a break !!.

No link with GWS at all, i live in WA, my grandmother lived in Seven Hills in the late 1970's though, does that count !!.

Art . I have a greater question, why are we being told that Australian Rules is Australia's national game,there is a great belief that this sport is representing Australia globally ,loved and adored by all Australians, when quite clearly half the nations watching N.R.L.

Here's a few more lies from Holroyd Council - stuff that conceals well on their web pages for out-of-towners like yourself stabpass. The two venues Holroyd claim are used exclusively for RL. McCredie Park in Guilford is also the home of The Guilford Leagues Club, which has a whopping membership base and employs over 50 people. McCredie Park also has a cricket pitch located on the Fowler Road entrance. I suggest Google maps street view to allay any fear of mistruth. Ringrose Park is home to Wenty Leagues Club - possibly bigger than Guilford in the number of people that it employs. Again the council lies - their are hard surfaced netball courts visible on the Google street view from Emert Street. My advice to you stabpass - is to take everything local councils say, with a grain of salt.

I answered you straight up - Holroyd has lied to you - and you gobbled it up. The grounds are shared by League and Union - neither is for exclusive use - and neither is under lock and key or signposted to prevent other ratepayers from utilising the facilities when not in use. Soccerplayers kick balls around, and if an AR lover wants to kick a ball about then go and do it. The straight fact is WE ALL OWN THESE GROUNDS - just like Brookvale Oval as an example in my first comment - and as par for the course all ratepayers are entitled to share in their use - the aspect that you conveniently keep pushing to the side. Again - how would you like it if the American NFL launched a similar program in Victoria, and started confiscating grounds that had been used for AR since day dot. Admit it - I've read your posts on multiple sites - your a RL hater, and completely one-eyed when it comes to AR. You, and Brodie would make a great team - may I suggest a role in politics?

It's amazing that this debate has been going for 2 weeks and Stabpass has been on the job replying and attempting to justify the Aussie Rules club position the whole time in discussions with a number of different people. What's the bet stabber has a link to GWS??

Where is your outrage, that the RL has 2 grounds it uses exclusively in Holroyd council, where is your outrage !!, i notice you have not made any attempt to answer, except a pathetic comment about the press release date. I have presented you with the facts about sports exclusivity in the area, but then you change tack and complain about power bills, but you have no idea what the bills are, or who pays what. I present facts about the huge number of AF games in the area, including state, national and local finals, 19 O/S teams in the area, for the International Cup contributing to the economy, and you make a smart remark about KFC or Hungry Jacks making all the money. You dont have a leg to stand on, i know it, you know it , everyone who has read this 'discussion' knows it, everyone can see the real reason for your continued sniping and it has nothing to with your belief that this is sporting apartheid, it has to do with your hate, paranoia, and bitterness. Grow up !!, it's one ground that has been used by AF since at least 1983, that has been fixed up.

stabpass - A reality check is obviously of great need in your case. If you think that council and the AFL has acted appropriately in these matters, then lets see how the shoe would fit on the other foot. Lets look at Melbourne for example - my birthplace. The American NFL approaches the local councils, schools, and media outlets with bucket loads of cash and free sporting equipment in an attempt to bribe, coerce, and influence all parties concerned. Do you think the noble citizens of Victoria would sit by idly and watch their grounds dissapear from under their feet ? Especially considering that they've been funding them for the last 100 years ? I'd lay a million down, that you'd be one of the first to voice your disapproval, in any manner or form that you could.

I have no doubt that the press release/council news was released so people like yourself can see that this is not sporting apartheid and that many sports have exclusivity of sporting fields, who cares if some public servant has got the date wrong, another cop out by yourself, and i see you are now complaining about power bills, you are clearly one bitter individual. http://www.holroyd.nsw.gov.au/your_council/news_public_comment/news/holroyds_sporting_fields Where is your outrage, i say again where is your outrage !!!.

Pip, as I say, the reality is catching up with the councils and the AFL. Its not just about money - ratepayers are making protests about the un-used AFL parks, while the rest are suffering because of lack of venues. Lets see how much the AFL "participation rates" go up in the next couple of years around Australia.

Actually, you are wrong, but that is pretty usual, the Blacktown oval is shared with cricket, 6 months a year each, and funded by both, not sure about the other, perhaps you can research it, but you probably wont, as if it’s not in the SMH or DT, you wont know. So are you suitably outraged that RL has 2 grounds that are used exclusively or not, my guess is that you are not, why is not this the same thing??, why is not this sporting apartheid, why are you not outraged, i have not seen you complaining ad nauseam about that. …..wonder why !!!.

You are more than welcome to attempt to prove or disprove it, but you wont, just very grubby, low brow comments, not to be unexpected.

Actually, you are wrong, but that is pretty usual, the Blacktown oval is shared with cricket, 6 months a year each, and funded by both, not sure about the other, perhaps you can research it, but you probably wont, as if it's not in the SMH or DT, you wont know. So are you outraged that RL has 2 grounds that are used exclusively or not, my guess is that you are not, why is not this the same thing??, why is not this sporting apartheid, why are you not outraged, i have not seen you complaining ad nauseam about that. .....wonder why !!!.

Possibly millions locally - ha ha ha. What do you think that was - the annual mardis gras ? Those events would be lucky to raise a buck-twenty for local ratepayers. All profits would have been obtained by Maccas, KFC, and Hungry Jacks. The bulk of players would have been billeted out to AFL loving families like yourself. Brodie probably had half a dozen stay at his mansion.

Yeh - that's another informative article dated the 29th September, 2011. Dated a whole month from now - it's back to the future for Holroyd Council ! Or is it like a post dated cheque that might be issued on a provision of a promise ? Who whipped that one up quickly, so that the AFL backroom deal might seem fair ? Two grounds for League/Union and three for AFL ! You've either got to laugh or cry.