What we learned from the Melbourne derby

By Katie Lambeski / Roar Guru

The fourth Melbourne derby took place on Saturday in front of a 39,303 crowd. The tight and tense affair played out into a scoreless draw.

Here is what I learned:

Melbourne Victory:

1. Ditch the 4-2-3-1.

In this game, and in the past two games, Durakovic has deployed a 4-2-3-1. After 270 minutes and zero goals, I think it is time to get rid of it. I argued last week, and I’ll argue again here now, for a 4-1-3-2. Keep the back four as is (with Adrian Leijer back in, of course) and place Isaka Cernak as a holding midfielder. Put Carlos Hernandez in behind Archie Thompson and Jean-Carlos Solorzano with Harry Kewell and Marco Rojas on the wings. Definitely worth a try after what has been served up in the past three games.

2. Solorzano must start.

He came on at half-time and Victory had a 10-minute spell where they could have poached a goal. A lot of that had to do with Solorzano coming on and playing next to Archie. Solorzano looked sharp and threatening, but lacked a shot needed to beat Clint Bolton. Victory look better with Solorzano on, what more does he have to do to get a start? Mehm?

3. Perhaps I was wrong.

Last week I wrote the Victory defence was thin, but the Victory defence put in a good performance. Roddy Vargas led the back four well, Franjic was solid, Foschini was aggressive and confident (traits I love in a full-back) and Fabio had a nervy opening 10 minutes, but rebounded and got forward well. Add to that the sublime performances of Ante Covic in goal, the defence looks better than I thought it did.

4. Midfield needs to lift.

Too many times possession was given away and it looked like Victory couldn’t string two passes together in the front half. As much as of a Grant Brebner fan I am, he hasn’t performed well enough in the past 270 minutes. In this game, he played one good pass and that was about it. His place must come under question.

5. That wasn’t good enough.

Being at the game with close to 40,000 people and with the Victory in need to kick-start their season, but what was served up wasn’t acceptable. In such a derby, the boys really needed to fire and they didn’t. Stand-in skipper Archie Thompson and defender Matt Foschini apologised for the performance after the game, Foschini even labelling it ‘a disgrace’. I appreciate the apology. However, as a fan, I don’t want apologies, I want goals

Final thoughts:

These are hard times, not end times at the Victory. There is time to turn it around. Durakovic said after the game that when Victory get the right system, they well get firing really well. I’m prepared to give Durakovic time, but he needs to learn from his mistakes or else he will be out sooner rather than later.

Melbourne Heart:

1. Unlucky, but wasteful.

Can’t deny they should have won. Covic and the defence denied them, but didn’t make the most of their chances. They didn’t win and they have to ask why not. However, they looked a lot better than what they did against Perth.

2. Matt Thompson is better suited to midfield.

I’ve suspected for a while that Matt Thompson was wasted at centre-back and I think I was proven right on the weekend. He has a class touch and works hard defensively. He played as an attacking midfielder and served the Heart front three of Williams, Dugandzic and Terra well. He may or may not stay there when Fred inevitably returns to the fold, but he should be kept there with Fred, and with Shroj screening.

3. They need Simon Colosimo.

Simon Colosimo returned to the first XI for the first time this season and the Heart defence looked better for it. Especially after they leaked like a sieve in the past two games. Whatever chances Victory tried to build up, Colosimo would snuff it out. He’ll also be important for the young centre-back Curtis Good as he continues in his development. All of this makes the Heart’s decision to strip him of the captaincy and letting him talk to other clubs all the more confusing.

4. Mate Dugandzic will be a player.

Okay, I’ll admit it, as a partisan fan in the crowd, I despised Mate Dugandzic’s move to the Heart. I’ll even admit I booed him at times. But, I have to say, he was probably man of the match. He went head-to-head with Fabio down a wing and probably should have scored. He wanted first-team football at the Heart and he’ll get it. He is fast, he can dribble, just needs to work on his finishing.

5. Front third will be a key.

If the front third does what it is meant to do and score consistently, the Heart can go far this season. Fred, David Williams and Mate Dugandzic are great additions to their squad. Add Alex Terra in there, you have a silky, fast front third. A lot will rely on them. They will get decent service from the likes of Fred et al. if they put their chances away (which they didn’t against Victory), look out.

Final thoughts:

They took away a moral win over their neighbours and rightly so. They need to capitalise on this to start winning on a consistent basis. The line-up looks settled, but Rutger Worm and Jason Hoffman will knock for a start and Fred will come back in when ready. There shouldn’t be too much change.

There is no excuses for the Heart to not play finals this season.

The Crowd Says:

2011-10-26T04:38:53+00:00

trent

Guest


I don't agree that Cernak is a better passer than Brebner, not in a million years. You clearly don't like Brebner, that's fine, and while he's certainly not a superstar he's still an important part of the Victory set up. He's far more creative in his passing than his sidekick Broxham. As for Cernak, I don't believe he can actually pass. I liked what I saw of Cernak in the first 2 games and was happy to see him start against Heart, but wow, did he put in a stinker or what! He could be moulded into a better player, perhaps if Ange Postecoglu was coaching him, but not with the current set up at Victory. Still, he's young, gets in good positions and has plenty of potential. He's just not there yet.

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2011-10-26T03:39:23+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


Thinking Mehm will change it up this week, more likely a 4-4-2 than the 4-1-3-2. Leijer may be an option at DM, his passing would need to improve, and I don't think Kempy is at full fitness yet and needs to be eased in from the bench

2011-10-26T03:31:17+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


Nice work, again, Katie. I think the whole world want the 4-1-3-2 structure, henceforth and I totally agree our DMs - Brebner & Broxham - have given us nothing this year. I was super-impressed with the form of Petar Franjic on Saturday night, and was also impressed with him last season. Roddy Vargas also seemed to be back to his sold best against Heart. That being the case I reckon we may be able to try a few other DM options. If Kemp is back to full fitness he could be a very useful DM - has good passing skills and defensive skills. Alternatively, we could keep Saturday's back 4 and push the skipper into the DM role. ------------Covic Foschini---Franjic---Leijer/Vargas---Fabio -------Kemp/Leijer/Ferreira Rojas------------Carlos----------H Archie--------------Solorzano

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2011-10-26T03:21:31+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


Allsopp may be an option, but he needs to add more to his game, especially when the ball is at his feet. Haven't been a fan of the way the subs are being used either....you are spot on, Victory need to lift and fast

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2011-10-26T03:19:26+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


if personal clashes are getting in the way there, then thats ridiculous....Victory's problems are structural and can be fixed. The blame for the start shouldn't be squarely on Mehm and Musky.

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2011-10-26T03:16:15+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


Thanks :) although I disagree with your take on Dugandzic and his shooting...wasn't a great shot at Victory and I don't feel he has improved all that much in that regard. He did score two against the Jets, but they were tap-ins from Fred

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2011-10-26T03:14:06+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


Cernak is willing to work hard and tackle. He is a better pass than Brebner and is worth a try there. Cernak can be anything that Mehm can be mould him into. He is still young, he can do it.

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2011-10-26T03:12:38+00:00

Katie Lambeski

Roar Guru


that wouldn't be a bad idea

2011-10-26T01:43:13+00:00

Jigsaw Puzzle

Guest


How about we try 442 this week. Seen this bandied around the forums; Covic, Fos, Vargas, Leijer, Fabio Rojas, Carlos, Brebs, Kewell Arch, Solo

2011-10-26T00:43:13+00:00

trent

Guest


All good Katie, except there's no way Cernak is good enough as a holding midfielder. He was appalling in the derby. Brebner is still the best we've got for that role, even better without Broxham on the field. Solorzano MUST start. He's looked dangerous every time he's come on.

2011-10-25T23:18:23+00:00

Michael

Guest


Katie, excellent analysis as usual, in comparison to the dross on offer in another recent article on this website denigrating our league. I strongly agree with you on Dugandzic. I saw him play against the Jets recently and the guy is really talented, and very hardworking. His work ethic alone should put him 'up there'. I'm not sure I agree that he needs to improve his fininshing! He scored two against us and had a number of cracking shots against the Victory. Perhaps he should have put his shot closer to the top or bottom corner? But compared to Heart's other "striker" Williams, who blasts the ball into Row Z from inside the box, Dugandzic is streets ahead.

2011-10-25T22:29:36+00:00

TomC

Guest


Good write up, Katie. Personally I'm not sure that any amount of tinkering is going to fix the Victory's problems. It seems like there are some deep seated problems within the squad right now. I'm a bit worried that neither nice-guy Durakovic nor my-way-or-the-highway Muscat are the people to fix any personality clashes. They need a no nonsense manager.

2011-10-25T18:10:53+00:00

Axelv

Guest


What about Allsopp? I know many people don't like him but PassandMove made the point that Allsopp freed up lots of space for Kewell to play in the first game, he runs hard at the defenders, forcing them to track him and it tires them, he had a few chances and didn't make the most of them, yet he created plenty of chances for other members of the team giving them much more space e.g Kewell, Rojas, Thompson, we hadn't played a competitive game in 8 months until that first game. I think Mehmet should also make the most of his subs, bringing on a sharp, pacey player such as Rojas may be enough to make a defense collapse in the final 30 minutes of a game. One thing that Ange Postecoglou has mentioned is, that it's way easier to score goals on the counter attack when you have a defensive player that comes up and is a good distributor of the ball, Muscat while he was old and slow, was still making those killer runs and passes that setup goals last season. It's so much easier to score on the counter when the opposition is completely out of position and running around clueless. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think the most important thing is that the Victory start scoring goals and provide some entertainment, (like what everyone else is saying) 2 big crowds in 2 home matches, we've never had an opportunity like this since season 2 to play in front of so much interest and a large audience, we need to keep this audience or they'll be disappearing fast.

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