Selecting the Wallaby front row

By jeznez / Roar Guru

The Wallaby pack has been beaten up by quite a few parties over the past few years. There’s no better time to be ruthless at the selection table.

The All Blacks have held the Bledisloe Cup since 2003, Samoa beat us in 2011, a rebuilding England knocked us over on their last tour down under and Scotland broke a twenty-seven year losing streak at Murrayfield in 2009.

Indeed, since 2002 the Wallaby forwards have been seen as vulnerable.

This vulnerability came after a strong period, highlighted by the 1984 Grand Slam.

This phase included that magnificent push-over try against Wales, the 1991 World Cup, the 1999 World Cup and five Bledisloe Cups in a row from 1998-2002.

Apart from the Brisbane game the All Blacks have put huge pressure on the Australian team across the park.

Steve Hansen has listed his initial All Blacks training squad for the year and Robbie Deans cannot be far behind with the Wallabies.

I expect that Robbie will see the Wallaby selections quite differently from me. He has with every squad he has named so far in his tenure, so why should this one be any different?

Regardless I think it is time to start throwing up some names for the pack I would like to see.

As usual I’ll leave the cardboard cutouts for others to hypothesise over.

This week I’ll focus on the front rowers, with the second and back row to come out next week.

The loosehead prop has to be Benn Robinson. He has been the standout loosehead prop in the country all year at scrum time.

His work around the park started very poorly but he has been lifting.

We’ll want him to step up further in that space while maintaining that scrummaging.

Interestingly Ben Tameifuna has been his toughest battle all year, followed by Dan Palmer.

The normally strong Crusaders scrum actually got pushed back a couple of steps a couple of times, which bodes well for Robinson’s form.

Of the props playing loosehead in Australia this year my second choice is Greg Holmes. He is playing well and scrummaging well.

For hooker, I think Stephen Moore has to be first choice.

Tatafu Polota-Nau makes some great impact plays but his efforts over 80 minutes do not match those of Moore.

Both hookers have issues with their lineout throwing, although both have improved in this area.

The next rank of Nathan Charles, James Hanson and Saia Fainga’a all have work to do to catch the top two Aussie rakes.

Dan Palmer is my choice for tighthead prop. He held up strongly against Robinson in their head-to-head during the Brumbies and Waratahs match.

It was quite notable to me that the second Palmer left the field Jeremy Tilse was brought on by the Waratahs.

It was as if Michael Foley wanted to get Tilse his first run of the year (following the injury to Paddy Ryan), but was not game to give him minutes against Palmer.

Sekope Kepu is my second-choice tighthead. He is either very lucky or unlucky he doesn’t pack down twice against Robinson over the course of the season.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall at an Aussie or Waratah scrum session to see what happens when they oppose.

James Slipper is the next prop in line; he has been ok at tighthead but I believe his greatest potential is at loosehead.

Slipper’s best scrummaging performance over the past few years was against Italy’s Martin Castrogiovanni in 2010 and came at loosehead.

He was under significant pressure against Sona Taumalolo last week and until he grows stronger he remains just on the cusp.

Despite his loosehead potential he plays tighthead for the Reds and looks to be our third choice here.

Ben Alexander, Pek Cowan and Salesi Ma’afu are significantly behind. This trio have been Deans’ favourites though and I’ll be disappointed, but not surprised, if they get in ahead of some of the afore mentioned.

Behind this group the developing props are encouraging, with Kieran Longbottom and Paddy Ryan unlucky to get injured.

Jeremy Tilse has just started getting some game time and needs to fix his foot movement on engagement. He remains a promising loosehead option.

Ruaidhri Murphy is another to keep an eye on, but I don’t believe he is eligible for Australia yet. He needs to continue his development.

Salesi Ma’afu, Pek Cowan, Ben Daley, Rodney Blake, Laurie Weeks and Nic Henderson are behind this leading group and need significant improvement if they desire higher honours.

Robinson and Palmer both missed last year’s representative games due to injury and hopefully they lead the charge of bringing respect back to Wallaby scrummaging in the coming internationals.

I would like to see continued improvement from both of them around the field.

I’m looking to see a first-choice front row of Robinson, Moore and Palmer, with Polota-Nau and Kepu on the bench.

Slipper is the next reserve, although I would have Holmes leapfrog him if anything happened to Robinson.

Tune in next week for a review of the second row and back row.

The Crowd Says:

2012-05-24T01:18:49+00:00

Aware

Guest


I must have been watching a different world cup to you mattamkll. If my memory serves, Kepu and Alexander were so ineffective they had to be replaced by Maafu and Slipper, with Slipper being forced into the unfamiliar loose-head role.

2012-05-21T07:45:16+00:00

mattamkII

Guest


Aware. The last beldisloe test last year showed why. Kepu and Alexander not only scrummaged well but were at almost as many breakdowns as the loosies...made a massive difference

2012-05-20T17:45:45+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Cheers Justin. -- 'Moore who lacks impact in the scrum and loose despite speed and a high skill level.' Nobody would accuse Moore of being fast.

2012-05-20T01:03:40+00:00

Aware

Guest


Robinson is regarded by other front-rowers around the world very highly, especially as a scrummager. His absence in the last World Cup was telling, especially against Ireland and NZ. I also think Palmer is very promising on the tighthead side. Why all this obsession about front-rowers having to get around the park like greyhounds? I thought back-rowers were for that. Kearns and that other crowd are from an era when losing scrums was regarded as an acceptable sacrifice for mobility.

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2012-05-19T04:03:55+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


I really do UA, the entire Brumbies pack missed the hit in the first few scrums and there was one scrum where Palmer although in excelent position got shunted back because Carter was curling into a ball behind him rather than pushing effectively. That said Palmer improved in every single scrum and his best one drove his opposite number back about four metres just before he got subbed. I would have likeed to see Murphy come on for Alexander as I think the Brumbies might have got some real value out of the scrum in the final twenty minutes. That said despite Alexander getting shunted backwards, he was there at tighthead late in the match when the Brumbies finally got the drive on, splintered the Canes and earnt a scrum penalty - he is just so inconsistent when he can get dominated and then pull out one scrum like that.

2012-05-19T03:55:11+00:00

Argyle

Roar Guru


Mate, I thought Ben Alexander did a great job of impersonating the Sydney Harbour Bridge last night against Ben May who has never been capped? Alexander was outplayed I thought. Had a look at Dan Palmer and he really is a very good THP don't you think?

2012-05-19T03:52:41+00:00

Argyle

Roar Guru


His name is Martin Johnson.

2012-05-19T00:48:54+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Munster didn't really maul that often when Fisher was coaching the forwards

2012-05-19T00:47:21+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


KPM watch the game again. The Irish front row made him their new plaything

AUTHOR

2012-05-18T09:11:47+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Not sure mate, from memory it was a two year deal though so I think you are right that he is off contract. I'd be surprised if the Brumbies didn't aim to keep him.

2012-05-18T09:02:19+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


What is Palmer's plans for next season I say he would be off contract now?

2012-05-18T08:55:39+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Helps that Kafer is a qualified coach (and should be coaching). Kearns is just an armchair pundit these days

AUTHOR

2012-05-18T08:48:27+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Carnivean, Palmer was held back behind Baxter as well as Kepu - in my opinion he was the superior scrummager then. Admittedly when he got his chances at tighthead they were always late in the game coming on fresh against tired opponents but the scrum started going forward without fail in every game he came in on. The most criminal fact was that every single one of his starting chances for the Tahs came at loosehead. He is not a loosehead. So I think he was already there and his performance - particularly the one against Robinson convinced me he is the right man for the 3 jumper. Given he'll play on the Friday before the Scotland test then perhaps the front row for that game could be Holmes, Charles and Slipper with Hanson and Palmer on the bench. If Palmer performs off the bench then he can be considered for the following Saturday against Wales.

2012-05-18T07:34:34+00:00

Carnivean

Guest


Jeznez, given that when Palmer was at the Tahs Kepu was always picked ahead of him, surely there would need to be an improvement seen from Palmer since he left. Everyone says that he's a great technician, loves the role, learning all the time, but they said that when he was at the Tahs. Normally the conversation on a player changes as they go from potential star to proving it on the pitch, and I haven't heard that with Palmer yet. Do you believe that he's made the step up? That's he's improved from when he was second to Kepu? I don't think he has, not to the point where he is demanding selection. If it can be worked out, I try to get him game time at least against Scotland, maybe even start him, but unless he excels, I'd still have Kepu starting as THP. I'm glad that I haven't read a comment about Rodney Blake to this point. What a disappointment he is at scrum time, after going to France and all. His general play has gone well the past couple of weeks, but apparently he is too dumb to have learned how to bind properly.

2012-05-18T06:32:04+00:00

Jutsie

Guest


I cant argue with that Dave, I think since rod macqueen departed, and with him andrew blades, richard harry and dan crowley, Aussie coaches have put too much emphasis on the work rate of front rowers in general play and not enough on scrummaging technique. I do think sometimes aussie forwards get bullied at the breakdown although this has reduced to a certain degree in the last two years.

2012-05-18T06:20:41+00:00

Justin2

Guest


But challenged rightfully by your expert scrum analysis Jez, which has been quality...

2012-05-18T06:18:23+00:00

Justin2

Guest


LOL Jerry - imagine if it was Hugh McMenimen!

2012-05-18T06:17:49+00:00

KiwiDave

Roar Guru


Laws are meant to be pushed. If they weren't we wouldn't have them. Breakdown isn't the problem for the Aussies. You have Pocock who is elite when it comes to this area. He is your Richie McCaw. Just ask the poor Saffers after the Quarter Final of the WC. Its your tight five at scrum time that's a joke. You have the lineout's and ball pilfering in open play down well and can match any side in the world in this area. However when it comes to scrum time you get routinely smashed. If you had a scrum that was the equal of the All Black one, you would probably win more than you lose against us.

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2012-05-18T06:15:14+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


RL, mentioning that 60m try by Holmes against Ireland has me all misty eyed about great long distance efforts by front rower's. Richard Bands 50m try against the All Blacks in particular comes to mind. Along with mid-field intercepts by Matt Dunning and great bouncing runs by Ollie le Roux. Kees Meuws also had a decent turn of pace for a big man. (I know, I know - any positive comment on Matt Dunning will have me in danger of being kicked out of the FRC).

2012-05-18T05:58:07+00:00

Markus

Guest


My thoughts are both - White and Fisher co-ordinating the overall tactics together, then Fisher running the sessions. There is no way Fisher could have been forwards coach for a team like Munster without mastering the finer aspects of mauling.

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