Rugby league is crippled in South Australia

By tonysalerno / Roar Guru

Astonished, I crouched down to retrieve a triangular banner lying in the soggy soil of Hindmarsh Stadium.

As my fingers dug into the surface, minute white shards fell from the moist banner as I tightened my grip.

The sign’s pale blue background made each word illegible but the faint outline of the letters revealed a message, which is why I collected it. It read:

‘Go the Adelaide Rams!’

Bewildered by the discovery of an unexpected souvenir I ventured back to my apartment to read South Australia’s Sunday Mail.

I flipped the newspaper to its back pages expecting a series of AFL splashes. My assumption was correct.

I had continued reading from back to front in search of the rugby league section but when there was no sign after reaching the thoroughbred articles I knew I was out of luck.

But on closer inspection I had come across three sentences on the bottom right corner of page 65 summing up the Saturday’s NRL fixtures.

Disgruntled, I headed down to the local park to kick a Steeden around.

There was not a crossbar in sight as I drop punted my Steeden straight through the middle for six points.

But despite these petty experiences, there is still cause for concern.

Rugby league is dead in Adelaide.

Aussie rules and the round ball code are dominating the Southern states in Australia.

The depth of junior AFL talent, the success of the A-League franchise and the quick departure of the Adelaide Rams have left the state of play in South Australia very grim for rugby league lovers.

South Australia has always been a great breeding ground for AFL talent.

For example, last year’s draft produced current Port Adelaide youngster Chad Wingard, who is having a strong first season.

The South Australia National Football league (SANFL) produced 10 draft picks in the 2011 AFL draft with one player in the top 10 and two in the top 20.

The number of SANFL draft picks was similar to the number produced in 2010.

The SANFL and the WAFL produce the most talent behind the premier Victorian competitions the VFL and TAC cup.

AFL is the flagship sport in Adelaide.

The success of both the Adelaide Crows and Port Adelaide Power has won over the fans in South Australia.

With a strong crop at grassroots level, both South Australian franchises have been very consistent despite some mixed seasons.

The Adelaide Crows are currently in the top four and enjoying a strong season after a lacklustre 2011.

The Crows have soared since their inception, making the finals eight times in twelve seasons since 2000.

Port Adelaide is currently in the middle of the bottom eight and has struggled in 2012.

But the power have experienced success since the turn of the century, as they were finalists in the 2008 grand final and won the flag in 2004.

But the South Australian success doesn’t stop with the Sherrin.

Adelaide United is an A-League foundation club and has been very strong since the club’s inception in 2005.

The club boasts two grand-final appearances despite not having won the premier’s plate.

Since 2005 they have maintained a crowd average of 11,000 fans.

Hindmarsh Stadium is the smallest of all A-League stadiums, with a capacity of 17,000 spectators.

The 2011-12 season was a disappointing one for the South Australian franchise, which in turn saw their crowd averages drop to 9,000.

Although Adelaide United struggled in the A-League, they progressed to the quarterfinals of the Asian Champions League.

The achievement makes Adelaide the first Australian football club to reach that stage of the tournament.

But with such success in the AFL and A-League, the NRL experience did not work in Adelaide.

Granted, the A-League project began after the rugby league franchise, but rugby league did not fit in like soccer does.

The Adelaide Rams joined the ARL in 1995 and played in the 1997 and 1998 seasons.

The Rams were disappointing, having won only 13 of their 42 matches.

The code-war between AFL and NRL may have been the biggest downfall in the ARL’s plan to expand to South Australia.

The Brisbane Bombers, West Coast Pirates and Central Coast Bears will be unrivalled by a bid in Adelaide in the next round of expansion.

The AFL have more chance of launching a third AFL team in South Australia than the NRL have of launching their first, although South Australia’s current lack of resources means the idea is unlikely.

The NRL would be silly to attempt to resurrect rugby league in South Australia again.

The Crowd Says:

2020-04-16T07:23:47+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


As stated today channel 7 expressing interest in having the NRL ,the SMH indicated the AFL after all these years its TV ratings in the northern states remain unimpressive. Crowds attending the team (Swans)is one aspect, yet few watching it, in its hometown after 38 years shows the interest has remained flat.And they did get a huge lift with the Super League war, but that's water under the bridge. GWS crowds have been the subject of much mirth by AFL fans down south and indeed people in Sydney.Their TV ratings are catastrophic. I have never argued the fact AFL crowds are good.I just believe with all the money spent and the contra work with ch7 over the many years, their Northern TV viewing should be far better. Perth will get an NRL club, would have happened probably in 2023,after this virus problem, will be held back a while. Redcliffe the more likely.

2020-04-16T03:05:16+00:00

Samuel Power

Roar Rookie


Yeah, was just looking at old posts to do with stadia in Australia and somehow this popped up and I had a read. Sydney Swans get pretty good attendances considering everything (around the 32,000 mark), they're also the most well attended team in Sydney believe it or not. GWS slowly getting off the mark as well averaging around 14k. Perth should get a league team, the Western Force got pretty decent attendances back in the day and thats Union, I'm sure a league team will be well supported there, also a Queensland one which I'm not sure where though, Redcliffe? Ipswich? Sunny Coast?

2020-04-15T20:26:43+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Goes back 8 years to a post :silly: Bit like the TV ratings for AFL in Sydney Samuel (another moniker), and that's after 38years. :crying: Oh and there are two codes of rugby ,just saying.Adelaide would be way ,way down the list of expansion areas in any case.Queensland and Perth well ahead.

2020-04-15T12:57:13+00:00

Samuel Power

Roar Rookie


Almost 10 years on from this thread, and there is still very little interest in rugby here in Adelaide. :laughing: :laughing:

2018-06-26T08:52:38+00:00

David Harris

Roar Rookie


that's funny I have been called in many of times to help AFL local clubs to teach them how to tackle properly and have helped in them winning grand finals. And this is based on you playing the game or just making an observation like most. Talk is cheap my friend , doing is better

2018-06-26T08:43:00+00:00

David Harris

Roar Rookie


And what you based this on not seeing crossbars to kick your steedon over, if they plied the money that they blow on useless emails and faxes and private boxes , then you would probably have a viable comp but when the local councils can give soccer an oval for $1.00 a year and the RL clubs in SA have to share with 3rd rate local AFL clubs that don't mind the extra income over the bar that the game generates, but when it comes to dealing out at the end of the year , they find a way to not to. I am speaking from experience and in one year when I coached senior RL in Adelaide , our 2 teams and supporters put over $55,.000.over the bar and we had to engage lawyers to receive our puny coaching fee ,thanks for 2 premierships and ended up with all our gear as well , but in hind sight , they only used the game to realise community club status to receive lighting from the council and when they were erected , the club was shown the door. Typical story in SA , but if the clubs had their own digs and clubrooms then they would be viable. The NRL has sent plenty of DO's from the eastern states to no avail as they have no connection with the local area and was just a job, meanwhile back in the camp, people like myself busted their guts for years for the game and not so much as a pat on the back as it was all expected to be part of the journey, alright for someone on over 90k a year, but to the volunteer , what a waste of money and time and effort. our game is in the dismal state that it is from neglect from the overseers that run the game. In 20 years of development work and over 45,000 kids the game is sick as and I will remind that 95% is volunteer work. I am based in a country city and the local AFL clubs spent over 750k on players, so what do you think that sought of money could do for the game of RL in SA. When you slag our game off , you slag me and every one else that has suffered from the debacle and has bleed for the game Time to show a little respect to the people and not shoot your mouth off based on a visual. .

2013-10-17T06:58:19+00:00

john

Guest


If this debate goes on for another year there will definately be no NRL in SA so there will be no forum

2013-10-15T09:15:24+00:00

jamesb

Guest


your comment sucks big time

2013-10-15T09:09:15+00:00

Australian Football Fan

Guest


Rugby league supporters just have to accept the facts the reason why Rugby league won't work in South Australia or anywhere else is because the sport sucks, big time.

2013-06-15T05:46:11+00:00

Toothless

Guest


I use to play rugby league in the 80's in SA. I was sick of loosing a tooth after each game and bashing my youthful body around not being abe to return to work on Mondays. In NSW the soccer league has changed to playing in the Summertime to stop competing with Rugby league fans. Soccer is starting to enjoy larger crowds plus there is more talent as rugby players become available in their offseason. As for popularity you can compare crowds to NRL versus AFL and..... there is no comparison. Therefore rugby league played in a country town like SA has no chance against the AFL unless you hypnotise the whole of the croweaters into attending rugby league games.

2012-10-22T02:47:19+00:00

Warriors_Paradise32

Roar Rookie


I am from Adelaide. Yes rugby league is not that big.. BUT it is around AND GROWING HUGELY. I know many people that have played RL once and have made a swith from Footy... Adelaide DOES need a league team. The population of growing islanders and also maoris here is the first pressure point secondly Adelaide needs another sport for us to be into. NRL would be the best thing since PORT ADELAIDE, 36ERS, CROWS ETC.. WE DO LOVE OUR SPORT... SHAME ON YOU if you think NRL doesn't need a Adelaide team. What's the point of having the N in 'NRL' ?? Seriously needs to change the way the game is being expanded. If we want to grow we need to be put on the spot.

2012-08-04T13:05:36+00:00

Spot

Guest


Rugby League here in SA is in a rebuilding, currently we have 8 clubs playing. Union is supported by the ARU whereas league is supported by the arl on a much less figure. we have a huge school competition in both primary and high schools, union have hardly anything but jumping on the back of league because south australians call both games rugby. clubs here are putting junior and seniors teams on the field each weekend with a huge volunteer workfoce because they love their league and want to give something back to our game, the GREATEST game

2012-07-26T12:21:01+00:00

Matt_S

Guest


Ok Jaceman, show me an obscure AFL game overseas between two international teams? Not expat/park footy stuff which is 99% intl. AFL. My niece's fiance, an Irishman was roped into playing for Ireland in the last intl. AFL Cup in Sydney/Melbourne. How many more were there I wonder? Australian media is all over the feel good AFL international stories but wouldn't go near the Canada v Jamaica stuff as it doesn't fit in with their preordained bias. Here look at the 66 photos of the Canada v Jamaica game and the comments by real Jamaicans enthused about league. I think this is the match you are referring to. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jamaica-Rugby-League-Association/80979929389 Read the links to the games in the two major Jamaican newspapers: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/Wolverines-down-J-cans-in-Carib-Rugby-Cup http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20120724/sports/sports3.html Take a look at league being explained on FTA Canadian morning breakfast show http://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=725266&binId=1.814368 Not bad for an obscure match. But according to our union folk, league had no right to expand. And you AFL zealots just love to jump on board. It must really grate with you. Fear is strong in you.

2012-07-26T10:16:48+00:00

Rob9

Guest


Back when I first moved to the Coast for uni I might have agreed with you Tony. Now i drive though Surfers on the way to work and watch (with envy) hungover sunburnt people head to the beach. So these days myself and probably 600,000 other people would disagree. Also my future inlaws live a suburb away so it isnt much of a 'part destination' for me... And none of the people I've met here have moved for the Titans or Suns, bar those employed by one of those organisations.

2012-07-26T08:57:07+00:00

Jaceman

Guest


Matt S Draws any crumb of information to make out that RL is growing exponentially around the world. I am always tempted to post some article on obscure RU or AFL games O/s to show him that one swallow... Olympic dam is going to be big for Adelaide - 30bn of investment but as the western Force has found out the go home factor for imports is high...

2012-07-26T08:18:14+00:00

Phelpsy

Guest


Problem is, kids need to have a place to play the game. What I don't think many people in the two rugby Leauge states don't realise, is that in Victoria at least, if kids wanted to play League it is very hard to find a club. I used to live in Gippsland and there simply isn;t a juniour or senior comp - no comp whatsoever. I think Berwick may have a club which would be the closest. I am assuming from the article Adelaide would be the same. W.A seem to be doing it right - trying to have a local juniour comp to play from what I gather- from there it can grow at least a niche market. That was the problem with the Storm - they just plunked a team in the city - but no grass roots. Look at the AFL in Sydney - if you want to play you can - plenty of teams, a structure, a competetion that is local. They also worked with developers years prior in putting money into them building in AFL/Cricket ovals in new developments with AFL goal posts, supply schools with Goal posts etc etc.

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2012-07-26T07:11:26+00:00

tonysalerno

Roar Guru


There are no residents up at the Gold Coast, all tourists, it's a party destination: Viva la Suns :P

2012-07-25T21:50:17+00:00

Kasey

Guest


It’s quite simple, travel expands your horizons and allows you to experience different things - it gives yuo perspective with which to view your own life. The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page.” – St. Augustine

2012-07-25T21:47:31+00:00

Kasey

Guest


All I'm saying is I think you're deluded if you think the only reason Adelaide hasn't fallen in love with League is because they don't have a team here. This pins in a map build it and they will come expansion dreaming of fanboys is as hilarious as it is deluded. Adelaide has well over 100 years of being an Aussie Rules city, you don't just change that overnight. If RL wants to plant a flag behind ' enemy territory', then by geez, by jingo, by crikey the NRL would wan't to be serious about a 10-20 year plan. Nothing I've seen from Sydney has thus far demonstrated that the RL head shed is capable of this type of long term strategy to grow the game.

2012-07-25T09:22:35+00:00

Dingo

Guest


I don't set such narrowminded restrictions when it comes to making my travel arrangements, unlike some short sighted, unwordly, gumby code lovin' people. :)

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