Can Australia really win the Ashes?

By aggregated drupe / Roar Pro

All of the current Tests, one-day internationals and Twenty20 internationals are just the lead up to the greatest cricket series in the world, the Ashes.

Right now England look the favourites with their settled line-up and world-class captain, Alastair Cook. To have any chance of winning Australia will have to not let Cook get truly away.

The first thing we need to get right is a settled squad that will be able to perform in England. I believe we need six pace bowlers, two spin bowlers, two wicketkeepers and seven batsmen in a 17-man squad.

First come the openers. There are three main contenders for these two spots (assuming Phil Hughes stays at 3), those being: Shane Watson, Ed Cowan and David Warner.

I believe that Warner is a must; he has refined his technique to suit the five-day game and he is now much more consistent and one of our finest batsmen. This leaves the other spot for one of Watson or Cowan.

When Cowan first came on to the scene he was touted as a great partner for the explosive Warner, having an extremely defensive game himself. He is an old-fashioned opener taking the shine off the new ball.

To me he has only looked the real deal when trying to attack the bad balls as well as defending. He was notably attacking when he scored his only Test century against South Africa.

I believe that Warner should be partnered with Watson. Watson is an experienced player and has played much better when in his favoured opening spot. His average is better than Cowan’s at Test and first-class level. Yes, he gets injured, but he has stopped bowling now and that will help.

Now for the three and four spots which are between Phil Hughes, Usman Khawaja, and Michael Clarke. I believe that Clarke should be at five so more about him later.

Hughes is my number three. He has refined his technique and is now much more capable on the on side. He has had a great summer and being young is going to be one of our most important batters in the future.

The same goes for Khawaja; he can really knuckle down and work for runs as he showed against Tasmania earlier this summer. He is one of our most impressive young batters and has worked on his fielding and running between wickets.

The contenders for numbers five and six are Clarke, David Hussey, George Bailey and Glenn Maxwell.

Clarke is the definite number five because he is Michael Clarke.

Maxwell is probably our best all rounder at the moment (Shane Watson has stooped bowling), but all rounders are a luxury and the question needs to be asked, are you one of the best six batsmen or best four bowlers in the country? For Maxwell the answer is no, so he is out.

David Hussey is one of the most unlucky cricketers in Australia. He should have been put in when the legends retired, in my opinion. He is now in the twilight of his career and averaging 17 this season, so probably doesn’t deserve to be picked.

That means that the number six spot goes to Bailey. He is Australia’s Twenty20 captain (although he doesn’t deserve to be) and is a regular face in the Australian limited overs camp. He is our most impressive middle order batsmen at the moment and deserves to be a Test player.

The wicket keeping spot goes to Matt Wade. His keeping has been criticised but Haddin’s isn’t much better. He is also an outstanding batsmen and probably deserves to be there on that alone.

My three pace bowlers are Pattinson, Siddle and Bird.

Siddle is the leader of the attack and is the second name on the team-sheet. He has been consistently successful and is a menacing bowler.

Pattinson swings the ball late at an outstanding pace and is scary to face. He will only improve and will be one of the best bowlers in the world when he is older. He just has to get over his injury worries.

Bird has only played two Tests but was great in both. He is not as fat as the others but continuously puts the ball in the right spot and troubles the batsmen.

The spin spot has to go to Nathan Lyon. Being South Australian he is one of my favourite players. Everyone looks for him to rip through teams like Warne but no one will ever be as good as Warne was.

Lyon has a very good record and I don’t see what the fuss about him is. He will have a good Indian series.

This leaves me with this squad:

1.Warner
2.Watson
3.Hughes
4.Khawaja
5.Clarke
6.Bailey
7.Wade
8.Pattinson
9.Siddle
10.Lyon
11.Bird

Subs:
Starc
Johnson
Hilfenhaus
Doolan/Burns (depending on form)
Paine
Beer

Do you fellow Roarers agree?

The Crowd Says:

2013-01-26T11:41:09+00:00

Dean

Guest


Khawja and Clarke have the best techniques out of all the batsman in Australia but Warner and Hughes know how to score.

2013-01-24T15:03:22+00:00

Jake

Guest


Except Amla is a right handed bat.

2013-01-24T15:02:14+00:00

Jake

Guest


As far as I am aware Sunil, you can only select 1 batsmen at each number, having 2 batsmen go out to the crease at 4 wickets down probably won't be a possible idea.

2013-01-24T14:57:11+00:00

Jake

Guest


Sunil is it possible for you to make a comment with out mentioning the word Khawaja? I look forward to reading your comments after he is selected, and when he possibly fails.

2013-01-24T13:13:27+00:00

nicko

Guest


ian something wrong with you quiney over warner you nuts clarke 4 having pattinson at seven following that top order your just stupid

2013-01-24T10:55:51+00:00

Finny92

Roar Rookie


What about the aussies in the most recent ashes?;) Pattinson is the only decent quick you have :)

AUTHOR

2013-01-24T05:47:19+00:00

aggregated drupe

Roar Pro


Cowan is old, everyone you named was a young prospect. The first sentence meant Sri Lanka not South Africa.

2013-01-24T05:18:14+00:00

Red Kev

Guest


Cowan is 31 and for a batsman this is statistically his prime. Waugh started in his very early 20s. Cowan is a journeyman. 30-something and averages 30-something in first class cricket. Back when the Australian cricket team was a source of pride that sort of record got you laughed out of selection meetings.

2013-01-24T05:10:03+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


@ Every Cowan hater: People, remember that it took Steve Waugh years, yes years before he got his first test century. It took Sachin Tendulkar nearly 80 ODI's before he got his first century in that form of the game. It took years before the likes of Matt Hayden, Justin Langer, Damien Martyn (and even Saint/Sir/His Imperial Michael Clarke) got it going. Sometimes patience in a talented player will provide a better long term investment instead of a quick fix solution with the significantly less competent Watson, that will be very hit and miss. Cowan just needs some time and some support from the selectors. @aggregateddrupe, Your bowling attack is spot on. Lets hope the selectors stick with them for the whole series and not rotate them in and out. It really doesn't matter what the batting order is, Australia just doesn't have 6 batsman that can handle the English attack and conditions. @timmuh You are spot on. I hate the mentality shared by 99% of cricket fans and the establishment that Australia only cares about the Ashes and everything else is the warmup for it for 4 years. It's insulting to all the other touring teams and a particular insult to a team like South Africa who are the best at the moment. Play each match with equal importance and with your best eleven.

2013-01-24T00:56:39+00:00

Mango Jack

Guest


Regarding Wade, it was interesting following his reaction to Healy's criticism. I reckon Healy saw problems with his technique (he was right) and was testing him out by going public. I thought Wade responded really well. He said all the right things and took it on board, and is starting to show signs of improvement, though he still inexplicably drops some simple takes. Wade has the right personal attribues of a good test keeper. They are a bit like rugby halfbacks, they need to be in the batsmen's face, chatting all the time, keeping feildsmen on their toes. Once he sorts out the few issues with technique, I think he will have a long test career.

AUTHOR

2013-01-24T00:02:16+00:00

aggregated drupe

Roar Pro


Warner just got a century against South Africa so he can perform against quality opposition. Hughes hit two centuries in the same test against South Africa and he has gotten better since then. Who is so experienced to put in? You need to offer alternatives. You said that Cowan should play. He has a lower average than anyone else in my team and only makes starts. He has gone on once from a start. He doesn't deserve to play. Australia's pace bowlers are better than england's check the stats for proof. Our pace bowlers were the best in 2012 than anyone except for Philander and how did England go when they played him? Lyon is the youngest australian off spinner to 50 wickets. He is doing better than Richie Benaud was at this stage of his career. Siddle is our best bowler and is doing very well at the moment.

2013-01-23T21:58:29+00:00

buddha9

Guest


mago see comment above --

2013-01-23T14:59:54+00:00

buddha9

Guest


Aggregated dupe sorry my friend but you don't know what you are talking about -- Warner has not got the technique or the character to play test against sides who really know how to play test cricket -- not talking about custard pie teams like shri lanka, its easy to build up your stats against them I'm talking about test cricket against the only 2 teams who still know how to play it : england and SA (ok india in india) nor has hughes -- your claim that aust will win 3 in australia is laughable and shows that u don't know what test cricket or what it requires. Nothing beats experience in test cricket -- experience of playing tough cricket for 5 days ( and don't be dumb enough to say tests don't last 5 days anymore) experience in hanging in there when session after session goes against you -- its an arm wrestle and the english know how to do it and this aussie team don't -- that's the first reason they won't win -- second reason -- technique - warner hughes both of them won't score a 100 in how many tests they last in england --- the first 4 batsmen have to be clarke watson ( who I have doubts about but he does know what tests require) Ussmin K and cowen -- these 4 at least have the technique and the guts to play slow and tough it out for sessions - Usmin showed that against england last tour -- there are no other batsmen in oz who i've seen who can do this or have the technique -- a much better more experienced side than this went to england in 2005 and got comprehensively beaten -- against that england have cook trott and petterson plus bell who would walk into the australian team and even though he's struggling now is a proven performer plus prior whats more root birstow are both very tough competitors with good techniques and crompton looks like the business as an opener. Australia haven't got the batting to come anywhere close to that Bowling wise the english have not only their usual attack but also Tremlett who they are nursing back to fitness specifically for the ashes (like they did Jones) esp the aussie leg; Onions who is almost as good as anderson in english conditions plus bresnan anderson and finn who is a vastly improved quick --- these are test match bowlers proven at the highest level -- and then you have swann and monty who have just bowled out India in india -- broad is faltering but has a habit of turning it on just when youre about to write him off what have australia got ? Siddle a big hearted limited bowler who struggled to bowl out SL in hobert -- i watched the test in perth ( australia's favourite wicket) and not one aussie bowler swung a ball the entire game -- stark looks the best prospect but he is a prospect not an experienced test bowler --- five day bowling on a test wicket is a specialised art which needs experience -- the team has to bowl in a disciplined manner to a set plan for long periods -- the aussie attack can't do that, they proved it in Perth -- Lyon is a run of the mill spinner who the pommies will milk all day long -- he bowls too flat and too fast I don't know why i need to tell you this -- you can see what I can see - clearly you don't know what you're looking for - so It doesn't really matter in one sense who the aussie selectors pick, the players simply aren't there -- their best hope is that they pick a settled eleven and hope that after tests in india england and australia they develop as a team, toughen up and get experience -- but hughes warner lyon and siddle is the way to heart break city and no matter how hard they try they will not produce what is required -- I can guareentee it. and no amount of wishful thinking will make it so.

2013-01-23T14:49:47+00:00

Rob from Brumby Country

Guest


Even if we completely ignore the Indian tour, the Aussie fast bowlers are still ahead. By discounting the Indian tour and yet including the first two matches of South Africa's tour of Australia (which were played on dull, dead pitches on which even Dale Steyn struggled [5/258 in three innings]), you would think that England's bowlers should come out ahead. But no, observe: In 2012: 439 overs and 4 balls = 29.25 @ 73.28 James Anderson (India discounted) 338 overs and 3 balls = 21.68 @ 54.89 Ben Hilfenhaus 382 overs and 1 balls = 27.78 @ 57.33 Stuart Broad (India discounted) 323 overs and 3 balls = 23.10 @ 47.34 Peter Siddle 160 overs and 5 balls = 32.00 @ 60.31 Steven Finn (India discounted) 142 overs and 5 balls = 25.05 @ 42.85 Mitchell Starc The statistics speak for themselves. I could show you their adjusted career averages without the Indian tour also, but it would not be statistically significant enough to effect any change. The Aussie bowlers come out ahead again and again. A cold examination of the facts suggest that the Australian quicks are better. Australians are just so scarred from the brilliance of the English bowling in 2005 that they've brainwashed themselves into believing that every contemporary English pace-bowler can become a world-beating swing merchant at the drop of a hat (a myth fortified by Broad's powerful [but desultory] spell in England's decisive victory at the Oval in 2009). But the world doesn't work like that. Statistically speaking, the English got lucky in 2009; barring a much improved performance, they could lose the next series on the comparative weakness of their fast-bowling alone. Heh. The Aussie pace bowlers actually statistically outperformed even South Africa's bowlers last year - only Vernon Philander collected better figures for the year than any of the Aussie quicks. Would you like to know how the South Africans went on their tour of England? ;)

2013-01-23T14:11:18+00:00

Matt h

Guest


What I like is he seems to score runs under pressure. We need to give him training and time as keeper. Rod marsh sucked in his fist couple of years.

2013-01-23T13:24:18+00:00

pope paul v11

Guest


Australia can win, it's just highly unlikely. The best chance is from the fast bowling ranks but the English batting is very strong. Meanwhile the Australiian batting is probably the least heralded since 1985 and the English bowling is very strong. I would not rule out any nuttery from the selection panel, such as Wade as a batsman, Haddin keeping or the Wade at six and a nominal allrounder a 7. Too much test and shield to go to speculate on the squad and injuries and what not. However if they were playing England today ( and Watto was actually fit ) i'd go; Cowan Warner Hughes Khawaja Clarke Watson Wade Johnson Siddle Lyon Bird Starc

2013-01-23T12:53:54+00:00

pope paul v11

Guest


Pommie speedsters also played on dead arse wickets against the Pakistanis in the middle east

2013-01-23T12:15:00+00:00

Peter

Guest


Bailey and David Hussey's batting failures in the ODIs has ensured that Khawaja remains front runner for the number 6 spot. Today was the day to get runs but they failed to take their opportunities on a good batting pitch.

2013-01-23T10:30:33+00:00

Finny92

Roar Rookie


He's nothing special, Pattinson is a very good bowler mind.

2013-01-23T10:26:57+00:00

Finny92

Roar Rookie


All well and good with those stats, but have you taken side strength into account? Bowling on Indian pitches, and against the best side in the world will mean your average inevitably goes up.

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