Wallaby wings may be our weakness

By Rhys Maiden / Roar Pro

The talking point of the last few weeks has been about the inside backs but these aren’t where the holes will be in the Wallaby back line. Just look a little bit wider to the wings.

The predicted wingers for the British and Irish Lions are the two Welshmen, Alex Cuthbert and George North. Both quick, agile and very big men to tackle. Sorry Rod Davies, but you are off the list.

Digby Ioane may seem like a definite for one of the spots but his previous form hasn’t been very sharp. Last year on the European tour we were even calling for him to be dropped.

I don’t think Robbie Deans will look past him though, because of his electric pace of the mark and his ability to commit three defenders to him every time he touches the ball.

With James O’Connor looking more and more likely to play within the inside backs, a new spot has opened up on the wing. The contenders for this spot are Alfi Mafi, Joe Tomane, Nick Cummins and possibly Israel Folau.

Alfie Mafi has been the best winger in Australia this season, topping the competition try count. In a losing side he has been a standout but a lack of international experience may cost him this position.

Joe Tomane debuted for the Wallabies last year but got injured, ending his 2012 season. He is league convert but has picked up the game within a few seasons and looks like someone who could be a definite Wallaby. His sheer strength can’t be unnoticed.

Tomane is often over-shadowed by Henry Speight, his opposite winger for the Brumbies, who would make Wallabies if he was available for selection. Joe Tomane’s kicking may be a problem if Ioane is selected as he also doesn’t have a strong boot.

Nick Cummins still hasn’t played in 2013 but his end of year season for the Wallabies European tour was a standout. You can’t dismiss his effort and how hard he runs at the opposition. He needs to get back from injury quickly, otherwise he may just have run out of time to make the squad.

You may be thinking why Israel Folau could enter the equation for the Wallaby wing spot. The answer is in the statistics.

He tops the Australian conference for metres run, carries and defenders beaten. At the moment he hasn’t fully adapted to union, often being out of position in defence or trying too much in each tackle, but his x factor can not be looked past.

As a wing for the Wallabies he is less likely to be targeted with kicking like he is at the Waratahs playing fullback, but his lack of kicking ability might stop of him from obtaining a Wallaby starting position.

Maybe a bench position would better suit him.

At the moment, and my team has differed over the last few weeks, here is my Wallaby back line:

9. Will Genia
10. Christian Lealiifano
11. Digby Ioane
12. James O’Connor
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
14. Joe Tomane
15. Jesse Mogg

The Crowd Says:

2013-04-21T13:26:30+00:00

Mike

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Meaning who?

2013-04-21T13:21:33+00:00

Mike

Guest


Yes, plus he is settled into the test position. He has been the incumbent 13 for several matches. Leave him there, and pick for the spots that aren't settled.

2013-04-21T06:14:26+00:00

dmac

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His mistake rate is very high this year though. That's my biggest concern.

2013-04-21T06:13:02+00:00

dmac

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It wouldn't surprise me to see the NRL overpay for Folau just so they can trumpet his return to the fold, like they did with SBW this year. It's not at all about the quality of the game with the NRL, it's all, and I mean ALL, about the hype. Just watch the steaming pile of crap that the Origin has been the last few years. Without the hype, would anyone seriously choose to watch?

2013-04-21T06:09:15+00:00

dmac

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Rob9, you are so painfully right.

2013-04-21T06:04:43+00:00

dmac

Guest


Gotta be honest, anyone not picking AAC at 13 at the moment has pretty much lost me from the start. Guy's in incredible form.

2013-04-21T04:45:35+00:00

Chivas

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On the polls, you used to get lumped as Caucasian which is not Anglo, but probably a derivation. On those polls I select other, because I am a New Zealander; but never seen Anglo Saxon. Are Japanese Asians, Jews middle eastern, French Europeans. Australia is quite multi-cultural but are Lebanese anglo's if they are Australian citizens and there first language is English too. I'm just curious.... I know what wog means now, although I had to ask what that meant when I first moved to Australia. I still get a bit mixed up :-). I think India is part of Asia, but you seldom here them called Asians. I understand the context you are using it in and rugby is tribal, so it also maintains the tribalness (is that a word) by referring to people like that. It tends to suggest an alliance between these grouos of people, butI would imagine French people have more to do with England than we do down here. Anyway I was just curious, and thanks for the insight NOS and for the time to post :-).

2013-04-21T03:27:45+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


No prob Ra. See my explanation below. Reading your comment makes me realise that I would never use the term Anglo towards a Maori or indigenous Aussie, american etc. I think it's just something we use to talk about 'white Anglo' then. Anyway, believe me it's not a big deal. It's just an expression we use to express our difference and it's again, very colloquial. And probably not all French know it or use it like this ( maybe I use it more because am into rugby and that for a long time it was France vs the English speaking world. Glad the Italians, argentines, Japanese etc have joined us).

2013-04-21T03:14:58+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


No worries chivas. Maybe I didn't explain clearly. I think the use of the term 'anglos' in french language is colloquial, almost slangish if it makes sense. That's a term I would use only with french mates if we are talking about english speaking ppl. For example, when Tony Blair and Howard joined Bush we were saying, 'look, Only Anglos believe there are WOMD', in French obviously. In rugby, I remember often using this term to say that the IRB is ran by 'Anglos', I.e. English and their former colonies or English speaking ppl. Once again, I know it is not correct but it's just what we call in French 'un abus de language', or an expression / term knowingly misused or used with a different meaning. I would never use this term in a proper conversation. Would be interesting to hear what other French think, maybe Parisien who I think is an aussie-French living there. Basically, it's just short for 'anglo-Saxons' or Anglo sax as we now say. It isn't derogatory when I sue it but it can definitely be. In a way, it's a bit like when you wanna group Latin ppl into the same category. It is just a generalisation.

2013-04-21T01:40:31+00:00

Chivas

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And just for the record, you make big statements about Folau and Tomane playing in the centres, was wondering what you base that on.... experience, analysis or a thought bubble. That was my question. I am assuming a thought bubble without the thought in light of the response.

2013-04-21T01:33:37+00:00

Chivas

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Interesting, I know the term Anglo Saxon, but as a fourth generation New Zealander of mixed Irish and Danish blood.. where does that leave me. I don't associate with anything European, have never lived there.... Do the French have their own view of who everyone is in the world whether it's relevant in those countries being generalised across or not? It's an interesting point. Many Americans don't get off their porch and make sweeping generalisations about other parts of the world. Is it fairly similar in Europe. I don't think anyone down under Aus,NZ would relate to being Anglo. It almost sounds like white anglican.... I'm not religious either... But as interesting as it may be, if enough pass the comment and nobody there disagrees.... It must be right. Sorry NOS, not shooting down your comment, just observations and thoughts.

2013-04-20T21:57:54+00:00

Ra

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No they are adamant they are not and neither are Kiwis,nor do most Australians feel Anglo. We were all invaded by the Anglos, and they like so many conquering armies, treated their own underclasses as brutually as their enemy. However, there are only four countries outside the UK that are recognised internationally as English first language speakers and they are Canada, US, Australia & NZ. And even in saying that, just at a glance, we can see disparity in the US, Canada and Australia because many families speak languages other than English in their homes. Only NZ stands head and shoulders above the next language (Maori) as having English as the dominant language spoken in the home. Anyway just a piece of trivia from a previous stop over in time

2013-04-20T04:30:04+00:00

Rob9

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I’m not saying PMC is the beginning and end of our problems but he’s definitely an issue and I’m still at a loss to understand how he has a Wallaby cap to his name. Did you watch rugby in 2011?? Firstly we lost to Samoa with none other than the predictable PMC crashing it up into a wall of blue for 80 minutes. We won a shortened and almost experimental Tri Nations. Then at the RWC we were beaten in the pool stages by Ireland. Following that game it became bleeding obvious to most just how little PMC offers in the midfield and general attack. Deans still persisted with his pet and we all know how we finished that tournament. Seriously, our attack in 2011 was a blunt, spluttering mess with a 12 that couldn’t pass and link up with our men out wide. The one highlight was finishing off the year with 2 W’s against a red hot and a widely fancied Welsh side, games that McCabe wasn’t involved in. Furthermore, we scored 5 tries over these 2 games against an opposition that had only leaked 5 tries all world cup (prior to meeting us in the bronze medal match). In 2012, you only need to see how we performed on the EOYT to see how much better we are with an effective 12 in the midfield. We had our behinds handed to us by the French and then started to get our act together and actually see some backline play when Taps came in to replace PMC. You’re right about one thing, that being that we do have some depth at 12 now (I also don’t know how Harris makes your list when he’s not even in the Reds 22). I’d chuck JOC on a list with Taps and Lealiifano of genuine international 12’s that can have our backline humming. I just hope and pray that in the year of the Lions and as we build towards 2015, we’ve finally seen the end of Pat McCabe in a gold jersey.

2013-04-20T03:59:13+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


PS: if I want to single the English out would probably call them the 'rosbifs' :)

2013-04-20T03:50:16+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


In French, we often call 'Anglos' anyone who comes from an english speaking country. Anglos or Anglo-sax, that's what we call them/you. I know it's not correct as such but in my mind the Lions vs Oz/NZ or SA is an Anglo affair.

2013-04-20T02:02:57+00:00

A Different Cat.

Guest


Anglo? The Irish, Welsh and Scots are not anglo are they?

2013-04-20T02:00:16+00:00

A Different Cat.

Guest


I dont agree with Rob9 at all because Barnes, Tapuai and Harris were used in 2012 as much as McCabe at 12 and it was not a year with sweeping backline moves was it? In 2011 the backline was fine and McCabe was there for most of it. Only recently has there been a few genuine options at 12. Lealiifano, Tapuai, Barnes, McCabe and Harris. Great depth.

2013-04-20T01:45:05+00:00

Ben Farrell

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Cuthbert was on fire in Brisbane last year, scored a try and was creating havoc down the right.

2013-04-19T23:21:14+00:00

Chivas

Guest


It doesn't fascinate me as much as you entirely missed the question, but that's ok. If that's all you understand from my post reply, let's leave it there and I'll assume you don't have an answer, just sounds like a good idea when you chat to those not so familiar with rugby.

2013-04-19T16:49:48+00:00

kingplaymaker

Roar Guru


Actually I was away for the computer for several hours so didn't reply. Mainly in the backs, but sometimes the backrow, if it fascinates you that much.

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