The Roar’s top 50 Australian racehorses of all-time (Part 6) 30-26

By Andrew Hawkins / Expert

The Roar’s journey into Australian racing history continues today with our judges beginning to make some interesting and conflicting decisions.

Which horse gets the same ranking by two of our judges? And which horses make their first appearance in our series?

Join Justin Cinque, Andrew Hawkins and Roar historian sheek as they give their 26-30 selections.

THIRTIETH

30. Sheek- Amounis (b. 1922) 79/33/11/8 (42%)
It’s remarkable that despite Amounis beating Phar Lap in two of their five meetings, I have managed to separate them by 28 places. Am I crazy? No, it merely reflects the extraordinary depth of quality of all the other horses in between.

Adding to the intrigue is that Amounis was seven or eight-years old racing against Phar Lap at three or four-years old. The advantage should have been with the younger horse. Furthermore, Amounis carried the fourth highest weight ever (61 kgs) to victory in the Caulfield Cup of 1930.

Among his other major victories were two Epsoms, the Caulfield Stakes and Sandown Cup.

30. Justin Cinque – Dulcify (b. 1975) 21/10/3/2 (48%)
I love Dulcify’s story – he’s my favourite horse in history. A parrot-mouthed horse (which means his lower jaw was shorter than his upper jaw), Dulcify won on debut at Morphettville as a three-year old at 300/1. I dare say he’s only the horse to be named in the top 50 that ever went around at odds of 300s.

He won the VRC Derby in the spring of 1978 but it wasn’t until the beginning of 1979 that the racing world learnt how good Dulcify was.

He won the Australian Cup in the last stride, coming from a mile back to nail the great Manikato at 80/1– Dulcify was an incredibly-fast finisher and a great Flemington horse. He then took the first Rosehill Guineas held in autumn and the AJC Derby on protest.

Returning in the spring as a four-year old, Dulcify became a star of world racing. He was responsible for one of the all-time great performances in Australian racing history – a Cox Plate victory by seven lengths and the most aesthetically-pleasing win (Black Caviar and Frankel aside) you’ll ever see.

He won the Mackinnon on Derby Day unimpressively before breaking down and being subsequently destroyed in the Melbourne Cup when favourite.

Looking at the way Dulcify improved through his career there’s no telling how good his record may have been had he not suffered that tragic end. There’s every chance Dulcify would have pressed for the top ten.

30. Andrew Hawkins – Dulcify (b. 1975) 21/10/3/2 (48%)
One of the greatest tragedies of the Australian turf is that we never got to see how good Dulcify was. After winning some of the major three year old races, he proved his champion qualities with a barnstorming win in the 1979 Australian Cup, defeating Manikato in the last stride.

The world was his oyster in the spring of 1979, with wins in the Craiglee Stakes and Turnbull Stakes followed by a truly awesome performance in the Cox Plate when putting seven lengths on his rivals. But unfortunately, he was galloped on and fatally broke down as favourite in the Melbourne Cup won by Hyperno.

The biggest question, though, is how he managed to start a 300-1 on debut at Morphettville in September 1978. Imagine if you’d backed him that day!

TWENTY-NINTH

29. Sheek – So You Think (b. 2006) 23/14/4/1 (61%)
And so we have a massive conundrum. Duncan Ramage has a lot to answer for. It was he who planted the seed of thought in owner Dato Chin Nam’s mind to send So You Think to Europe. And not tell Bart.

By the time Bart found out and exploded, it was all too late – So You Think was on his way to Aiden O’Brien’s stables in Ireland. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. In making our assessment, we must judge on what we know, not what might have happened.

Had So You Think remained in Australia, he might have won three Cox Plates as well as a Melbourne or Caulfield Cup, several Mackinnons, the Australian Cup and only God knows what else. He may have rewritten the history books. But, sadly, all that is pure speculation.

29. Justin Cinque – Tranquil Star (b. 1937) 111/23/20/12 (21%)
Tranquil Star only had a winning strike rate of one in five but she’s this high in my list because of her great longevity and versatility. Tranquil Star started racing in 1939 when World War II began.

She outstayed the war – Tranquil Star won the 1946 William Reid over 1200m. As a three-year old she won the VRC St Leger over 2800m. In between she won three majors including two Cox Plates and a Caulfield Cup. She also won three Mackinnons, a Caulfield Stakes, a Chipping Norton and a Memsie.

29. Andrew Hawkins – Sky High (b. 1957) 55/29/10/9 (53%)
You want versatile? Take a Breeders’ Plate winner who progressed to win a Golden Slipper and a Victoria Derby within six months. That’s Sky High, whose feats have only come close to being matched by Miss Finland (2006 Golden Slipper and Crown Oaks winner) in the years since.

He is the only Golden Slipper winner to run in the Melbourne Cup, after Miss Finland’s bid to run in both races collapsed at the final hurdle in 2007.

And in addition, he won a plethora of other races, from the Lightning Stakes to the Epsom Handicap.

If you love versatility, you’ll love him.

TWENTY-EIGHTH
28. Sheek – Northerly (b. 1996) 37/19/7/2 (51%)

Yet another conundrum. Northerly ran Sunline ragged on some occasions, yet 15 places separate them. Again, it’s the quality of all the other champion racehorses in between. Northerly can lay claim to being WA’s greatest racehorse after Eurthymic.

Other major wins by Northerly include two Cox Plates, Caulfield Cup, two Australian Cups and the Railway Stakes.

28. Justin Cinque – Eurythmic (b. 1916) 43/22/3/4 (51%)
Eurythmic is the first West Australian to appear in my list. As a young horse in Perth, Eurythmic won the Karrakatta Plate (which is the Golden Slipper of Perth), the WATC Sires Produce, the WATC Derby, dead-heated for first in the Perth Cup, won the Cox Stakes (then the premier weight-for-age race in Perth) and the WATC St Leger.

In Melbourne Eurythmic sealed his greatness with three victories in both the Caulfield Stakes and Memsie, two Mackinnons, a single Caulfield Cup and a Futurity (with 67kgs). He also won the 1921 Sydney Cup.

Eurythmic was the first horse to earn more prizemoney than The Roar’s greatest of all-time, Carbine.

28. Andrew Hawkins – Redcraze (b. 1950) 85/32/11/9 (38%)
Redcraze is what you’d call “a late maturer” – unraced at two, mediocre at best at three, alright at four. It was when he made the transition to Tommy Smith that his real ability was shown, winning some of the best races on the Australian calendar.

His signature victory was his remarkable performance in carrying the equivalent of 63kg to victory in the 1956 Caulfield Cup.

It was his beaten effort in the 1956 Melbourne Cup, though, which had many lauding him a champion, as he gave the winner Evening Peal 14kg and many lengths before just failing to reel her in.

He would add a much deserved Cox Plate to his record the following year.

TWENTY-SEVENTH

27. Sheek – Redcraze (b. 1950) 85/32/11/9 (38%)
Redcraze, like fellow Kiwi Rising Fast, is a good reason why you should persevere with stayers. Both were relatively late starters, not showing their true potential until they were five.

To this day, Redcraze holds the record for carrying the greatest weight to victory in the Caulfield Cup (63kgs) in 1956. He was then beaten by a mere head in the Melbourne Cup, lugging 65 kgs.

Other major wins include Cox Plate, Metroplitan Handicap, Brisbane Cup, VRC Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Queen’s Plate and Turnbull Stakes.

27. Justin Cinque – Chatham (b. 1928) 45/24/7/1 (53%)

Chatham raced in one of the great eras of Australian racing – from the Depression years we’ve already seen Phar Lap, Ajax and Peter Pan named in the Roar’s top 50. And Chatham is worthy company for the aforementioned three – what a CV he has.

Two Cox Plates, a Doncaster on a heavy track with 65.5kgs after the missing the start, three Linlithgows (now Patinack, then 1600m), three Craven Plates, two Epsoms, two Warwick Stakes, two Hill Stakes, a Canterbury Stakes, a Caulfield Stakes and an All Aged – 11 Group 1s in total.

Chatham is in the top ten middle-distance horses we’ve ever produced.

27. Andrew Hawkins – Octagonal (b. 1992) 28/14/7/1 (50%)
Not only was the “Big O” hugely popular, but he was also one of the most tenacious horses to race in the modern era.

I actually think Saintly, the horse from heaven, may have been a better horse. But in the time their careers overlapped, Octagonal asserted his authority over Saintly and as such has to be ranked higher.

Octagonal produced one of the best beaten runs in Golden Slipper history, flying late but failing to grab Flying Spur by a nose in a vintage edition of the race.

In his three year old year, he won the Cox Plate, Canterbury Guineas, Rosehill Guineas, Mercedes Classic and AJC Derby, but seemed to struggle in the spring of 1996 before returning to his best as his career reached its end in the autumn of 1997.

TWENTY-SIXTH

26. Sheek – Gloaming (b. 1915) 67/57/9/0 (85%)
With an 85% win ratio, you would be entitled to think Gloaming ought to be close to the top of the pile. But his major Australian wins included the AJC Derby, the Mackinnon Stakes and three Craven Plates.

There’s no Cox Plate, or Caulfield Cup, or Australian Cup, or Doncaster Hcp, or other major handicap and weight-for-age races. Consequently, Gloaming’s achievements are downgraded somewhat.

Before Black Caviar came along, he shared the southern hemisphere record of 19 consecutive wins with another champion NZ horse, Desert Gold.

26. Justin Cinque – Gunsynd (b. 1967) 54/29/7/8 (54%)
“The Goondiwindi Grey” is arguably the most popular racehorse in Australian history and one of our great milers. When he was awarded third place after a photo finish in the 1972 Melbourne Cup, the crowd roared. His jockey Roy Higgins has since recalled that “You’d swear he’d won. They knew he’d given his all”.

As a champion miler Gunsynd won the nation’s four premier 1600m races – the Doncaster, the George Adams (now Emirates), the Epsom and the Toorak. He also won the Cox Plate, a Caulfield Stakes and two Ranvets.

Gunsynd is remembered for his strong finishes and a habit of posing for flash photography at the races.

26. Andrew Hawkins – Tobin Bronze (b.1962) 44/24/7/4 (55%) (plus 16/4/2/3 in US)
A chestnut galloper who was popular for his good looks as much as his ability, he won two Cox Plates, a Doncaster Handicap, a Toorak Handicap and a Caulfield Cup under the equivalent of 61.5kg.

The only horse to start shorter in a Cox Plate than Tobin Bronze did in 1967 was Phar Lap in 1931. That race, his final in Australia, drew a huge crowd to Moonee Valley to bid him farewell, and he didn’t disappoint, winning comfortably.

He wasn’t as successful in the United States, but he is remembered as a top galloper of the 1960s.

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-25T01:25:53+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


PW, I accept the correction. No doubt in five-10 years time, Black Caviar will be the greatest racehorse in Australian history & Hay List in the top 10, but I won't be part of that selection process! For me, the vintage period of Australian racing was about 1918-87. Seventy great years whereby there was a genuine interests in all forms of racing - stayers down to sprint handicaps; wfa at each distance; the 3yo classics & the rise of the 2yo races in the late 1950s. Not so today, where the shift has moved inexorably towards sprints. I accept I'm an idealist & there is little room for any idealist in the real world. Yet I can't help but think a breeding industry that endeavours to cater for all types of horses, weight restrictions & distances (including jumpers) is a win-win-win-win for all in the horse racing industry. Only about one-two percent (or something like that) of all horses bred are going to be multiple group one winners. So you need the variety for the rest. I know I keep bringing breeding into this, but there is a connection. Owners & breeders can't be bothered developing stayers anymore. They're after the quick turnaround. It started in earnest in the 1980s with Robert Sangster championing the change towards sprinters. He found a lot of converts quickly.

2013-05-24T13:42:55+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


Not wishing to harp on it mate but the ratings have nothing to with breeding. They're handicapper's assessments of form. If you look at the list: http://www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/2012Rankings/Top50_G1_Races.pdf The vast majority of top rated races around the world are mile plus, most 2000m plus. Just not from here. Quite simply, the best horses in this country in recent years are, in general, sprinters. Races like the TJ and the Lightning are now far superior to the Australian Cup or the BMW. I accept that all this has happened rather quickly. It certainly wasn't that way when I started following the caper. But if you are compiling a list of the best horses from these parts this has to be considered.

2013-05-24T12:56:21+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


PW, You should know by now I'm bit of an 'independent spirit' in these matters. The IHFA might have their views based on what's best for breeding purposes. I'm a bit of an idealist, preferring history & tradition over perhaps self-motivated interests! But I accept the world (Australian racing anyway) is changing. My wife's uncle (a mad-hot punter) reckons I'm an idealist & there's no place for me in modern racing. Other people disagree with me, but unless we change our mentality, the best races in just 10 years time, won't be beyond 1400 metres! But I'll hold out for as long as I can..........

2013-05-24T11:09:39+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


The problem with that Sheek is that according to the IHFA, which recently ranked the top 50 races in the world, the "best" races currently in Australia (taken by ratings of the placegetters) are the Lightning (by miles), the Patinack, and assorted other sprints. The Cox Plate sneaks in there, but only just above the Orr and the All-Aged. The Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, BMW etc are nowhere to be seen. The races we hold in highest esteem are simply no longer the races our best are running in. It's been like that a while now.

2013-05-24T10:13:50+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Hi Jack, If/when I get to do this again, I might introduce some kind of points system to separate horses, when assessing their careers. It's the 'big ticket' races that separate the best from the rest, not unbeaten records, or 65% win ratios, or whatever else. These other factors are important, but its the major races that really count. For example, any Cox Plate/Australian Cup/Tancred Stakes (BMW) win would be worth 10 points. A Melbourne/Caulfield/Sydney Cup is worth 10 points only if the horse carried weight-for-age (for 5 year old) or more, say 60 plus kilos. Lower weights would attract lesser points on a sliding scale. The Doncaster/Epsom/Stradbroke/Newmarket would operate on the same principle. Each group race, be it one, two or three, or w-f-a, handicap or set weight, would all attract a different point scale. We need to keep in mind also that the Australian Cup wasn't always w-f-a & that before the Tancred Stakes (BMW), there was the VRC CB Fisher Plate (similar race type & distance). Also, before the Cox Plate there was the Australasian Champion Stakes. Then we might get closer to finding to the best of the best. But only as long as we see it as a fun exercise & don't take ourselves too seriously! Horses retired early to stud or injured would obviously be disadvantaged, but this is part of the deal - we can only assess horses on what we know, not "what might have been."

2013-05-24T07:33:19+00:00

Jack

Guest


Understand that Justin. And a once off is quite acceptable. I was worried that it would lead to an avalanche of opinions of top 20's-50's of different categories of racing which seem so prevalent in other sports.

2013-05-24T06:50:43+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


This once it's worth doing Jack. I think we're the first to do a Top 50 of all-time for Aussie horses.

2013-05-24T06:38:22+00:00

Jack

Guest


Agree Sheek. When the top 50 was suggested I thought it was a bit much. The top ten is pretty obvious so I thought that the next 5-10 would be of more interest. And it was. But I would call a halt at that. As you so rightly say there's not a struck match between so many. Appreciate all the hard work you guys have put in as do many others, but 50 seemed a little silly.Maybe it was a task set by the editor? Sheek you seem to be around my vintage and since the late 50's we have seen hundreds of horses who would slot into the remaining category. It's all conjecture really. History and stats don't always tell the whole story but it is pretty much all we have to go on.

2013-05-24T02:47:33+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


TN & PW, I'm sure Justin & Andrew would agree, selecting the top 50 is enormously difficult. In actual fact, the first 20 is perhaps slightly easier than the next 30. I'm in the extremely difficult position of trying to squeeze 80 horses into 50 positions. And there's barely any difference between about 21 & 80!

2013-05-24T02:34:42+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


Agree about Saintly. Though there is one horse in my time of following horse racing (last 25 years) that I consider superior to them both who hasn't got a mention yet...... Enjoying the list guys.

2013-05-24T01:26:20+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


It's interesting that so far Justin, Andrew & myself have all selected the same 23 horses out of 30, while 2/3 have selected a further seven. The composite score of those 23 horses we have all chosen to date is as follows (50 points for each first, down to one point for each 50th): 1. Carbine - 150 (max. score) 2. Tulloch - 146 3. Phar Lap - 145 4. Kingston Town - 141 5. Wakeful - 134 6. Bernborough - 132 7. Black Caviar - 127 8. Ajax - 126 9. Manikato - 123 10. Makybe Diva - 122 11. Vain - 120 12. Rising Fast - 113 13. Peter Pan - 111 14. Malua - 103 15. Sunline - 102 16. Todman - 101 17. Might And Power - 94 18. Tobin Bronze - 93 19. Gloaming - 87 20. Poseidon - 86 21. So You Think - 85 22. Gunsynd - 84 23. Sky High - 76 Those horses with 2 out of 3 selections so far & awaiting the third selection to give them their final composite score are: Galilee (69), Chatham (65), Eurythmic (62), Shannon (62), Crisp (59), Redcraze (47) & Dulcify (42). The following horses have received just one nomination to date: Amounis, Grand Flaneur, Northerly, Octagonal, Super Impose, The Barb & Tranquil Star. So far 37 different horses have received at least one nomination in the top 30.

2013-05-24T00:57:04+00:00

Travis Noonan

Roar Rookie


Found it interesting to see the Big O in front of Saintly. Personally always regarded Saintly As a better horse. Loving the countdown though and that some horses from way back get mentions never really knew anything about horses like Eurythmic , Malua and Amonius. Have to ask where a horse like Red Anchor fits won the VRC Derby and Cox Plate then got injured and retired to stud won the 1984-85 Horse Of the Year too if only he didn't get injured .

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