Real premiership contenders don't worry about Origin fatigue

By Conor Hickey / Roar Pro

I don’t really care that the Rabbitohs will miss Greg Inglis for a few rounds a year when he plays representative games.

Nor do I care if Manly misses Anthony Watmough or the Broncos miss their usual crop of rep players.

There is a school of thought in the league community that Origin games should be played as a standalone feature to try and avoid player fatigue not to mention club footy fielding all the game’s stars.

But are the teams really disadvantaged that much?

Inglis, for instance, can be counted on to miss at least three games a year through Origin plus another one if he pulls up with an injury from the ANZAC Test match.

Many would say the Rabbitohs will suffer as a result because they can’t use Inglis and any other rep players during those weeks and another team such as the Warriors, who currently aren’t fielding any Origin stars, will have a competitive advantage.

Yes, for those weeks teams such as the Broncos and Storm in particular can struggle to match their opponents.

But three of possibly four rounds a year is it.

Take the Storm as an example for too many years (from a Blues perspective anyway) Billy Slater, Cameron Smith and more recently Cooper Cronk have missed three games a year due to Origin.

Since the Maroons started their winning streak back in 2006 Melbourne has finished outside the top four once, in 2010 when the salary cap story broke and they were stripped of all their competition points.

If you are one of those who think their seasons while they were cheating the cap don’t count then look at 2011 where they won the minor premiership, only to lose the game before the grand final, and 2012 where they finished second on the ladder and won the competition.

In 2010 the Dragons were minor premiers and went on to win the premiership.

That year they fielded seven players overall in Origin matches and six in Game 1.

Did the Dragons’ season suffer as a result of those players not being there for a few games?

The answer is, in my opinion at least, no.

No doubt those weeks where the Dragons fielded a lot of rep players they suffered but as the old saying goes the team is only as strong as the weakest link.

Implicit in the argument that teams are disadvantaged because they lose their Origin stars for the week is the assumption that because a team is above another on the ladder they automatically deserve the win.

Let me counter that by posing this question.

If the current leaders of the competition, the Rabbitohs, lost Inglis, John Sutton and Adam Reynolds to injury, should they deserve to beat the team currently in last place, Parramatta?

Of course not, if Parramatta can field a stronger team to the Rabbitohs and then beat them, the Eels deserve the win.

The Rabbitohs proved that it is possible to win without their Origin stars this year winning both their games without their rep players (though to be fair, one was against Parramatta).

Despite losing some of their strongest players the Rabbitohs still managed to win games and that is the reason why they are four points clear of the Roosters on the ladder.

As for player fatigue swapping around the major bye rounds could help solve the issue of player fatigue.

Currently the major bye round, where eight of sixteen teams get a week off, comes in the same week where the Origin players sit out their club games to train for Origin.

Those players then come back and play a game of club footy (with two to four teams getting a bye), some just two nights after they have played some of the toughest football they will ever play.

Why not place the major bye round after the Origin game and then play the remaining four games on Sunday and Monday.

Clubs are without their stars the week before Origin anyway because they are in camp so why not move the major bye round after Origin and give most of the players a rest.

Players who don’t get a week off still have Thursday, Friday and Saturday to recover and even get in a training session with their team.

The only people who would really lose out are Channel 9 who broadcast the Friday night games. They certainly deserve a say in the matter.

The Friday night game could be moved to Sunday so we get a double header of footy.

Channel 9 only broadcast two games the week after Origin anyway because there will only be one Friday night game due to the smaller round.

Apart from helping fatigue these changes would mean a player who pulls up sore from Origin can potentially miss one, not two games of club footy.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2013-07-10T12:21:54+00:00

Conor Hickey

Roar Pro


Haha really? I'll try simplify it next time I post.

2013-07-10T11:14:39+00:00

jack

Guest


I realize you are a rookie but man I read your article twice and my head is still going around trying to understand you Jack

2013-07-10T06:10:44+00:00

Chris

Guest


There is huge difference between u/20's and the Nrl

2013-07-10T02:55:04+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


I used to go to lots of Knights games when I lived in Newcastle. But you can't expect people who aren't diehard fans to pony up the cash in the middle of winter to watch two teams who are missing their major stars due to Origin. The solution is so simple, the NRL just needs to fix it.

2013-07-10T02:48:30+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


Isn't that what the U20's is for?

AUTHOR

2013-07-10T02:44:39+00:00

Conor Hickey

Roar Pro


I'd say true fans go to see the footy regardless of price (unless you're in the unfortunate situation where you cannot afford it which hopefully doesn't affect too many people). I know I go to Canberra Stadium every week to watch the Raiders play and they aren't even my team, and I was going when they were finishing 15th a few years ago too. As it stands League doesn't get great crowds anyway even when the stars are playing. 10k turned up on Sunday to Canberra Stadium to watch Jonathon Thurston, Matt Scott, James Tamou, Brent Tate, David Shillington and Josh Papalii play. Contrast that with the Green Bay Packers in America. The town's population is about 100K. Their homefield has a capacity of just under 80K and it is sold out every single week.

AUTHOR

2013-07-10T02:37:50+00:00

Conor Hickey

Roar Pro


You make a good point about backing up, as I said in my article if the scheduling was slightly changed then at least the players who did play would get a few days rest. The problem with standalone weeks is that the regular season either has to be extended by three weeks to accommodate the bye, or it has to be shortened to compensate for it. As it stands the season currently runs March through to Sep and extending it either way means playing more games in the heat which as we saw earlier in the season the teams weren't too happy about either. Shortening it would probably be the easier option but as you say the mighty dollar has a say over things too, and really if Channel 9 and Fox are paying $1 billion for broadcast rights they deserve to have at least some say.

AUTHOR

2013-07-10T02:28:29+00:00

Conor Hickey

Roar Pro


True, but look at the Broncos history, something like 20 straight finals appearances. How many times in those years do you think they had Origin players out? Certainly when Lockyer was playing they had at least four out most years and still made the finals. The point I'm making is that if the Broncos needed those extra three games to scrape into the 8 are they really premiership contenders or are they just making up the numbers? The Broncos have lost plenty of games this year with their full squad whereas the Rabbitohs have only lost two. The difference between the clubs is that one wins consistently and can cover injuries or missing players while the other team sometimes can't win with their best 17. Conversely look at Manly, they've been missing first grade players at various times all year and still manage to win games, or even the Roosters against the Bulldogs a few weeks ago, they lost both of their halves to Origin but still managed to beat the Dogs, the Dogs were missing Reynolds and Morris but there aren't many teams who will win games with both their top halves missing.

2013-07-10T02:15:54+00:00

Chris

Guest


Yes I want to see the talent of the future

2013-07-10T00:54:55+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


But do you really want to pay full price to see that game if it's not the best talent on show? Even watching it on the TV can be poor. Especially when it's only one of the two teams impacted.

2013-07-10T00:38:49+00:00

Chris

Guest


Leave it the way it is. It gives players who would normally not get a run a chance to play at the top level at the sport

2013-07-10T00:21:15+00:00

steve b

Roar Guru


C.H I don't know how many players you have talked to that have had to back up because of rep honours but my guess is none , mate let me tell you its hard on their bodys and state of mind , they are not robots , and most would tell you its taxing . Standalone would be their preferred option and clubs and coaches would all agree . Lets hope in the near future common sense prevails over the mighty dollar because player injury at the moment is not being taken into account and their clubs do lose out , big time.

2013-07-09T23:00:01+00:00

Mantis

Roar Guru


I don't mind players missing games, but where I find it unfair is that some teams get the bye and others have to play. Some teams get their bye directly after origin, whereas other teams have to play and then get the bye a week later. The NRL has to start playing origin on a stand alone weekend and eliminate the bye altogether.

2013-07-09T20:54:30+00:00

Dogs of war

Guest


To counter your argument, look at the broncos who are struggling this year. Yet they have a lot of qld players who over this period may have won the club one or two games extra if they had there players, or they weren't backing up from origin. That's the difference between then being in the top 8 or not. Not to mention looking at the lions series of the focus on the series, which doesn't happen when it's spread out the way it is. -- Comment left via The Roar's iPhone app. Download it now [http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-roar/id327174726?mt=8].

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