Do Australian rugby fans really deserve any better?

By sheek / Roar Guru

Yesterday, 18th August, is the anniversary of the battle of Long Tan, when about 110 Australian infantry soldiers of D Company, 6RAR, accompanied by three New Zealand Artillery observers, held off an estimated between 2000-2500 Viet Cong Guerillas and North Vietnamese soldiers in a rubber plantation near the village of Long Tan in 1966.

18 brave soldiers were killed, 13 from 11 Platoon in the first 10 minutes, which took the initial onslaught of the brutal fighting. About another 30 soldiers were wounded. Nearly half the company were registered as casualties.

It took almost 45 years for the Australian Federal Government to recognise the same Unit Citation for Gallantry (UCG) that was awarded to D company by both the US and South Vietnamese governments.

Meanwhile, those gallant men still await clarification of two Military Crosses (MC) and eight Mentioned in Dispatches (MID) to be recognised, 47 years later and still waiting!

Today, I also read that a Department of Veteran Affairs (DVA) spokesman told a partially paralysed Australian veteran who had a tour of Iraq, that he should “buy a goat” when he requested for financial assistance in mowing his property lawn.

Whoever the cretin was that made that insensitive, ignorant comment, should be sent to the frontline themselves. Then let’s see how they like it!

We’re happy for our servicemen – soldiers, sailors and airmen – to go overseas to defend our freedom, and even be maimed or die for the privilege, but we give them scant regard when they return home.

We get ripped off by oil companies, insurance companies, food companies, governments at every level, you name it. Our farmers are being driven off the land.

We could be a great country, but we’ve become ultra-greedy, self-centered and short-sighted. Shallow.

The servicemen in both the world wars, as well as the Korean and Vietnamese wars, fought to ensure that Australians would continue to enjoy such things as liberty and freedom of speech. Today’s youth think that democracy is overrated.

Ask the North Koreans, Iranians or Zimbabweans if they would like to trade places? Then find how wonderful life is with your neck pinned under a jackboot.

For me, when I follow sport, I look beyond the mere playing field. I want to believe that our sporting teams reflect the values of the society they live in, for all the right reasons.

Perhaps, in this second decade of the 2000s, our declining rugby union team, cricket team, Olympics team, etc, reflect a declining moral society that is turning to crap.

The Wallabies have a new coach, but their first outing under his tenure was ultimately underwhelming. I have already argued, quite quickly, that there are things to like about this new regime.

But I also wonder if we deserve better? That is, do we really deserve any better?

Do you notice how seamlessly the All Blacks have moved from Graham Henry to Steve Hansen?

Yes, it hasn’t always been so, but the Kiwis have got it right in the professional era. Just as they have got it mostly right for the past 100 or more years.

Each coach might have his idiosyncrasies but the overall pattern remains the same. Every youngster aspiring to be an All Black understands the values associated with the history and tradition of the jersey, as well as the basic skills necessary to achieve their ambition.

Not so Australian rugby. Bob Templeton, Dave Brockhoff, Daryl Haberecht, Bob Dwyer, Alan Jones, Greg Smith, Rod MacQueen, Eddie Jones, John Connolly, Robbie Deans and now Ewen McKenzie have all sought to influence the fate of the Wallabies, in often wildly divergent ways.

Some for the better, some for the worse.

A recent generation of wannabe Wallabies, have demonstrated scant regard for the jersey and the history and tradition associated with that jersey.

Others not born here, but arrived at various early ages, have failed to embrace the culture and history of the country. They are sporting mercenaries for hire, seeking fame and fortune. It is difficult to know if they are willing to spill blood to the same extent as some of those from previous eras.

As a young boy first exposed to rugby in the late 60s, there were some significant problems.

A lack of total player participants, a lack of quality players, a lack of genuine rugby fans, a lack of sponsorship, a lack of exposure through media outlets, a lack of revenue streams because of all the points preceding.

Today, despite obvious advancements in the game, we have failed to make inroads on the other three football codes, which have also increased their exposure, but more spectacularly than rugby union.

I believe going forward, the youth of the future will be playing much more Australian football and association football, and much less rugby league and rugby union.

Genuine rugby fans desperately want a successful national team. But achieving that will be nigh impossible while the administrators fail to develop the game below the Wallabies.

The problems of the late 1960s continue to exist in the 2010s – a lack of player participants, a lack of playing depth, a lack of genuine fans, a lack of sponsors, a lack of exposure through media outlets and consequently, a lack of revenue streams.

There is still no national comp, for example. Yet, during a dark period of the game from 1968-77, there indeed was a national comp. It was called the Wallaby Trophy.

Add to the woes mentioned above, we have also deserted our clever, innovative rugby thinking.

As a young guy following the Wallabies in 1980, we marvelled at the exquisite skills of the midfield magicians Mark Ella, Mike Hawker and Michael O’Connor.

We mocked the All Blacks backline that was unable by comparison to generate any inroads despite enjoying two-thirds possession. Guess who the joke is on in 2013?

The French were so impressed and inspired by the deeds of Ella-Hawker-O’Connor that they named several of their moves “Wallaby one, two, three”, etc in honour of the Australian back play of the early 1980s.

From being a smart, innovative, reasonably successful rugby nation, we have regressed again back to mediocrity.

I want our Wallabies, baggy greens, Olympians, etc, to be great again. but then when I look at some aspects of our society, I sincerely wonder if we deserve any better.

The Crowd Says:

2013-08-21T05:58:37+00:00

clipper

Guest


An interesting article, sheek - how some people are interpreting some immigration bias is beyond me. I think you have got it spot on with this sentence "I believe going forward, the youth of the future will be playing much more Australian football and association football, and much less rugby league and rugby union." They way it has been played out in Sydney's west has highlighted the problem Rugby has made for itself by not trying to expand into league heartland areas and now AFL and more successfully, the A league have made inroads there and have effectively locked Rugby out.

2013-08-21T05:36:01+00:00

Mike

Guest


I don't think WillieOMG was intending to denigrate the All Blacks. Quite the opposite. Rather, he was cautioning those who view the ABs through rose-coloured glass and then use that as a basis for demanding impossible standards from rugby players in Australia. "what they do away from the footy field simply wouldn’t be tolerated within the framework of the AB team." Of course not - theft and assault would not be tolerated by any team on its own players, and it virtually never happens anyway. There have been suggestions in the article above and in a couple of comments that success in rugby is related to moral character, and the All Blacks are held up as examples of that. It is therefore reasonable to point out that every rugby team has issues with character problems - there are no exceptions.

2013-08-21T05:24:06+00:00

richard

Guest


Geez,so AB players are human,with all the normal human frailties.Who knew. This sort of behaviour is common with athletes all over the world.Young and talented with few life skills,they get a warped sense of their place in the world,particulary with all the money and fame that comes their way.As unpalatable as it is,that's the way of the modern world. And,as you say,what they do away from the footy field simply wouldn't be tolerated within the framework of the AB team.And is why the team is as successful as it is.

2013-08-20T04:39:40+00:00

Coconut

Guest


Australian rugby had some great ambassadors, men like Eels, Mortlock, Smith more recently, and Farr-Jones and Lynaugh(sp.), these guys were all gentlemen outside the game, and had the respect of many abroad. The clowns you might see in the AB jersey from time to time inevitably don't last... The good ones do.

2013-08-20T04:10:13+00:00

Timbo

Guest


Wow the second best Rugby League team in the world. Not much to shout about really is it.

2013-08-19T23:41:27+00:00

Luke

Guest


The difference between he level of skill and mental toughness with Rugby and League at grass roots is vast. The weekend club league players who play rugby for their schools tear their "just rugby" player opposition to shreds. This is evident from U 7 right through to U 17. Rugby League is far superior in its approach to Junior development.

2013-08-19T23:08:13+00:00

BennO

Guest


Not sure what to say there bob but I think my experiences have been very different from yours. I just don't share your outlook on any apparent decay in society, especially among young people. I see the opposite every day.

2013-08-19T22:35:12+00:00

Mike

Guest


"knowing that we have the right to bare arms" Here in Australia we have the right to bare our legs too.

2013-08-19T22:23:25+00:00

Bob Anderson

Guest


If you don't consider the breakdown of the family unit having negative consequences, then perhaps you'd consider it happy and positive. Of course, the decline in western educational standards and poorly behaved youth, often due to chaos at home caused by the anything goes family structures and decline in morals, doesn't paint such a rosy picture.

2013-08-19T22:08:45+00:00

Tombo

Guest


A bit off the thread but I think League and Union really are each other's undoing. League dominates the local to regional talent and fan base with Union really having its spectacle at the provincial to national level. I know a code blend is at best a pipe dream, and boy did I dream it on saturday night. Living overseas right now I have been immersed in a love fanatical of a singular sporting code for each season, moreover a singular team for each talent catchment area. Imagine the fever of the likes of the best of Aussie league and union lining up in green and gold against the All Blacks. Maybe throw in a few swans ruckmen. If only I could borrow a Delorian for a day and show the lamb chopped heads of the then parting codes what could be. If only.

2013-08-19T21:38:54+00:00

Rob9

Guest


That's ok Bob, we feel much safer here where it's a hell of a lot harder for the individual's who make up the neighborhoods that lack moral restraint and social norms to get their hands on one of these inanimate objects that don't fire themselves. Statistics would say we're safer too. 

2013-08-19T21:34:03+00:00

BennO

Guest


Funny. I just moved back to oz after 2 years in the US for work and I feel just the opposite. But I also think western society is doing quite ok. I don't share the grim views others here seem to.

2013-08-19T21:25:17+00:00

BennO

Guest


A sad view??? To the contrary. It's a happy, positive and excited one. We live in a wonderful world! It's got it's problems but it's getting better, especially in our lucky few rugby playing countries.

2013-08-19T19:25:03+00:00

Bob Anderson

Guest


What a sad sad view of the world. Completely backwards, but whatever.

2013-08-19T19:22:07+00:00

Bob Anderson

Guest


I'm sorry but guns do not cause crime in the US. I know its become a joke in some quarters to say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" but think about it and tell me it isn't true. A firearm is an inanimate object, it doesn't shoot itself. The lack of moral restraint and social norms in some neighborhoods are the problem, not guns. I feel much safer as an American knowing that we have the right to bare arms than I would in a country that has strict gun control like yours.

2013-08-19T13:07:59+00:00

WillieOMG

Guest


Yes only the most wonderful and pure human beings can bring success. Gee the ABs arw full of world class citizens like Savea (battered his missus), Nonu (treats non AB coaches and teams like toilet paper), Adam Thomson (assault), Zac guildford (whats the word limit here?), Piri Weepu (lunch bandit and pie thief) ..umm m what about ex recent players Keith Robbo (assault), Jerry Collins (still to be named category of going mental inside japanese shop with a big knife...cos he was being chased by gangs), Lauaki (assault).. thats only the ones I can recall.. yet they have all contributed towards sustaining a long reign at top of world rugby.

AUTHOR

2013-08-19T12:06:37+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Hi Charlie, Your name was on the Roarers list I received for last Sat night. Did we introduce? My sincere apologies if we didn't or I don't recall. I wanted to meet everyone, but it wasn't possible to get around to everyone. Or I might have briefly met most but can only clearly remember those I spent some time chatting with. I trust you enjoyed the night. Plus my humble apologies again for a blurred memory.

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2013-08-19T12:01:25+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Rob9, Please accept my apologies if i don't reply to you in depth. It's only because a response to you would require me to be more detailed, which I simply don't feel like doing at this time. Short responses to others is adequate, but you deserve more depth which I'm not interested in at the moment. Elisha's done a good job of representing my thoughts, so I'll let his replies speak for me for the moment.

AUTHOR

2013-08-19T11:58:03+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Elisha, Get in touch with Zac or Tristan, show them this thread, I'm happy for you to get my email.

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2013-08-19T11:56:40+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Of course! :-)

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