Is rebuilding realistic in the business of sport?

I see no reason why Price has not used Drinkwater since it was obvious we would not make the 8. The kid goes ok. I've seen him play plenty of Cutters games and he moves those guys round the park very well. It must be shattering his confidence when he sees a hooker in the 1st grade no. 7. Fien was a very good hooker and a great dummy half, but a half back, he ain't. Look what an 18 year old kid did to us on Saturday! Wake up to yourself Pricey. I know you've picked on the bench, but put Fien back to the bench and start the kid. How good would it be to have a young Drinkwater and Quinlan halves combo? Give it a go for our last two games

please u red v or wat ever u were does not exist anymore ur stgeorge-Illawarra now, ( Illawarra ) who got shafted in the deal should have a good hard look at ur selves, ur club was a success for along time now u have one bad year u cry like little girls, man up cop it sweet and stop this whinging............................................

Also a red v member for long time from 1976 watching on the hills at kogaragh always stayed till the end never ever walked out before game is finished stayed cheered the boys on till last Saturday could not take that rubbish anymore this bunch from doust to some of playing staff they should be embraced to put they hand out and take their money after disgraceful effort Please note this was very special game if they can't get up for it they don't deserve to wear that jersey with the heritage this club had in the past where is the passion where is bold and sweat where is the lets have a go there was nothing's there on Saturday Earlier comment someone said they rebuilding we still have 14 rep players I this roster and some of the the most talented kids coming through but over the last two years I have noticed they gone back in their development And the almost have started hasting just gone to the roosters and others will follow because the future is very bleak at that club and mr doust still talking about organic growth God help us But this red v member from next season will be ex red v member with my family that's sixteen of us until mr doust and the board get they act together my heart bleed for my beloved club that once was the greatest and I wil, be cheering on the western Sydney wonders never ever in my wildest dreams I thought will be watching the round ball game but doust drove me to it

The Dragons played inspired footy against Souths but went back to "same old" after that.They do not have the fire in the belly to play 80 minutes. Why can't some new players be blooded during these final games??

The St George players of 2013 have absolutely no discipline and continue the make the same mistakes. I believe things between the coach and players is too cosy. The players have no fear of being dropped or disciplined. Steve Prive I am afraid is not a leader and has to go.

when is price going to give drinkwater a go we haven,t won for that long with fien as halfback so give him a go if we don't win does it really matter.I can't wait for next year atleast we have bought some decent players

I too am a member of our once great club John but what we witnessed on Saturday was a disgrace. De Belan and for that matter Trent Merrin are no big Arties so why are they not admonished for such wasteful turnovers. If Ben wasn't our captain would he even be playing first grade. I have no idea what the newcomers to our club must be thinking after our latest debarcle. Doust, Price and Young, you owe us paying members better than this. St George once boasted the finest young junior props of any club, I go back a fair way, why are we soon to be known as the 'soft forwards' as was the case pre Bennett days. Its got to get better and to get better we need to access what mantle current successful clubs have taken and go with the flow or otherwise remain as another also ran. Bugger that from a proud Saint

Totally agree with Tony - as a Red V member I have seen no sign that this team has ever had a training run - no examples of team plays or tactics - if so too subtle for me to discern. NB Souths simple moves last Friday - these plays do not need Australian players to execute, Close to the tryline in attack Dragons invariably throw the ball along the ground and behind attackers - maybe they should take up lawn bowls if they have the level of fitness to cope with that game. They could NOt score a point in two games the first time for about 70 years at Kogarah. Simple plays like catching a pass one off the ruck are beyond them - maybe they need to run from dummy half all the time. Against Manly at Kogarah (o-18 at half time) Buehrer dived over for a try between 3 of our forwards - fans near me said we have lost many players since 2010 Premiership. The forwards that night who failed to tackle Buehrer all played in the 2010 Grand Final. Under Bennett they could defend their line for two or three sets of six - now who cares Coach says lthere is a lot to like and blames the refs. A new coach new recruitment and a proper plan is needed to restore some fire to the dragon slayers. I don't expect them to win every week but I do expect commitment and an indication they have some teamwork and coaching which frowns on frequent (every week) fundamental mistakes

Rebuilding is one thing..but you got to rebuild the right way. Just promoting within the current club structure coaches and assistants of 3 grades that will miss the finals and with teams not being able to play for the whole 80 minutes and having a lot of injuries is a blight on coaching and training structures / methods. Dragons can not re-build this club until they go for coaching structures who are not involved with the current or historic structures. (never been involved with the club) just like they did with Wayne Bennett. Now he has gone and gone are his (training) structures he put in place because the current coach can do it better..Hmmm.

Rubbish excuse!! Whenever the Storm, or Manly and to a lesser extent the Bulldogs or Broncos win a comp, they don't turn to cannon fodder within the space of 24 months. We have simply been poorly managed. If this was a business, it would now be in receivership. All the supporters can see it, and quite frankly, we are all sick of talking about it. The Board will finally get the message when it starts hurting the club financially, simple as that. In fact there are whispers that the performances of past two season is already starting to erode at the clubs finances.

Agree George, the only time it appears that the Storm lose players is when they retire OR when they go caught cheating the salary cap

I wouldn't be too hopeful for next year if I was a Parra fan. Footy is better when Parra are going good, so I hope it happens. I wanted Ricky to come to the Raiders this year, now if I were a Parra fan I think I'd be hoping he did return "home". Some of the players he told to go elsewhere were pretty good I think. Bellamy has proven that if you pump up an "ordinary" player and get him to expertly perform a very well defined set of tasks, the team can go really well. Does help to have 3 of the top 5 players in the world though! It seems that the pressure to lose players after winning a premiership doesn't apply to the Storm. Seem odd to anyone?

Drinkwater plays like a pedestrian I'm afraid, so Price had few choices. If you have Fox, you see a lot of NRL and Holden Cup players, not so much with the "reserve" grade guys. Hence it seems to be expected that a good U20's play-maker will readily transition to Firsts, but it can't be easy. Forwards seem to be blooded for longer before they debut in firsts, and they don't need to make decisions about where the team will attack or have to yell out instructions to guys 5 to 10 years older (and more experienced) than them. It'll be interesting to see how Sam Williams goes next year, he does try to tackle, he's just not great at it. As a Raiders fan, I hope Price stays at St George for a long, long time.

Actually, to quote Jack Gibson "Success starts at the front office." Parramatta is in a worse position re-building wise. The club has been on the downward slide ever since the end of 2006 which saw Brian Smith and Jason Taylor leave the club. Since then there has been impatience from the board and supporters alike. Admittedly Hagan needed to be punted, he was doing nothing at the club. Daniel Anderson was a victim of board room squabbles and Stephen Kearney just didn't cut it. When a club re-builds too much focus is usually on the first grade team. When you look at what Ricky Stuart has done this past season he's gone beyond that. He's tried to create depth for the future by blooding juniors but will have a more experienced side next year with his new recruits arriving.

Yes, rebuilding is a constant process. The talent scouts, trainers and all the support staff really are the backbone of any club. The players are merely the icing on the cake.

In reality a club should constantly be rebuilding so that they always have someone ready to take over if need be. The Dragons have failed to do this especially in the halves. Full credit to Nathan Fien for his efforts in trying to help out the club! The Dragons also have had a lot of injuries. Steven Price under the circumstances deserves the chance to coach for another year.

i dont think drinkwater played that well in nsw cup, he got dropped to local league at one stage