Justice for Jesse Mogg!

By Rob na Champassak / Roar Guru

Let this be clear as mud – I do not think Jesse Mogg should be playing fullback for the Wallabies.

His defence against linebreaks is very suspect, his situational awareness as a fullback is off, he tends to bite off more than he can chew with his kicks for touch, and he has the unfortunate tendency to occasionally turn in an absolutely dreadful performance.

And yet I cannot find myself agreeing with the populist line of criticism of his play that has come out after the match. A lot of the criticism is unfair, unbalanced, or simply ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

As a matter of fact, if he could have come off at the same time as Matt Toomua, I think we should have been talking about a very reasonable performance.

So again I find myself going in to bat for a fellow that I think should be benched, and not because I think he proved me wrong with his performance, but because I think he is not being given a fair hearing.

Let’s start off with the accusation that his kicking has been poor.

Tosh. He may not have had a perfect game, but to be honest, I think he more than earned a pass on this score.

Nothing irritates Australian rugby fans more than ‘pointless kicking’, so it can be very difficult to convince them that kicking can sometimes be purposeful and useful.

Let’s have a look at Mogg’s up-and-unders.

He kicked three in the first half of the match. Of those, the Wallabies regained possession from the first and the third, and could have regained possession off the second if the pack hadn’t been dragging their heels.

Consider the first example. In the fourth minute of the match Mogg put up an up-and-under for Israel Dagg who caught the ball and was tackled by Mogg the second he landed back on the turf.

Mogg actually twisted the tackle around, presenting Dagg and the ball to the oncoming Wallaby pack.

This enabled the chasers in Michael Hooper, Rob Simmons, Ben Alexander, Christian Leali’ifano, James Horwill and Adam Ashley-Cooper to steamroll over the top and win a turnover.

One might question why the centres were required to go into the ruck in the absence of Ben Mowen, Scott Fardy, and Stephen Moore (later discovered to be seagulling in the back line), but that is completely beside the point.

Mogg was playing to a plan and he executed his part of it to perfection.

Don’t believe that it was planned? Well, he must have gotten very lucky again less than ten minutes later, because the up-and-under to Dagg, the chase, the tackle, and the twist were all the same mechanics as used before.

I actually had to check that I hadn’t rewinded by mistake.

And it should have worked again.

However, as I mentioned earlier, on this occasion the forward pack was too slow to get to the ruck. The All Blacks – having learned their lesson – drove over the top before the Wallaby pack could get near. Opportunity wasted.

In the third instance, Mogg fouled up. He jagged the kick sidewards and it looked destined to go out on the full and come all the way back for the lineout.

But Mogg had been doing a very good job of chasing his own kicks. He recognised that the ball was going to go out so he sprinted to get to where it was coming down, and leapt over the touchline to smack it back to Hooper.

It didn’t make the kick look any better, but it was a very good recovery to get valuable possession for the Wallabies for which he has so far received zero credit.

He also hasn’t gotten much credit for the fact that he outgunned Israel Dagg in the only conclusive kicking duel of the match.

While there was plenty of aerial ping-pong in the match to not want to speak of, there was an interesting exchange in the 55th minute between Mogg, Dagg, Mogg again, and finally Julian Savea that ended up gaining the Wallabies a good fifty metres of real estate.

Mogg’s second kick actually found touch well inside the All Blacks 22m line for a gain in territory of nearly eighty metres. Dagg had no choice but to take the quick throw in to Savea or the All Blacks would have had a defending lineout ten metres out from their own line.

Whether you feel that Mogg should have been trying to link up with Israel Folau or James O’Connor to counterattack (as one irritated Kiwi commentator on Sky Sports did) is irrelevant.

Counterattacking can’t have been a part of Ewen McKenzie’s menu for the night or we would have seen more of it.

What Mogg did was the job that he was clearly assigned to carry out as part of the Wallabies broader strategy – outkick the other guy. The tactics might not have made sense, but the execution was good.

The execution was not so good on the kick in the 65th minute when Mogg failed to find touch off a long arm penalty. Three minutes later he put a kick out on the full to compound the impression that he’d had a poor night with the boot.

But the reality is that if anything it was a bit of a mixed bag for Mogg. He kicked well while the Wallabies were competitive, but as the Wallabies started to tire and fall behind on the scoreboard, he tried to help out by stealing a few extra metres.

It didn’t work, but how can you criticise him for it? The Wallabies were behind and his ambitions were completely understandable.

So what I’m saying is that up until that point in the match, he had only really committed one bad mistake that he couldn’t make up for– his miss on Steve Luatua. There aren’t any excuses to make for it – it was a one-on-one and he barely laid a finger on Luatua.

O’Connor had to come across and save his blushes by making the tackle.

But that does not make Mogg responsible for the try that occurred shortly thereafter. As soon as Luatua had gotten through the gap between Alexander and Fardy, the All Blacks were going to score.

The Wallabies defence just couldn’t scramble back fast enough, and the All Blacks turned quick ball into a two-men overlap on Ben Smith’s wing that neither of the Wallabies’ defenders (Leali’ifano and Mogg) had any hope of keeping out.

‘Mogg still should have made the tackle’, I hear you say. And I agree. As I said at the top of the page and in comments in many other rugby articles: I think Mogg’s defence against linebreaks is very weak.

But that doesn’t make it fair to blame the try on him. If anyone, blame Alexander for slipping off the first tackle in the first place. It is much easier to defend in the phalanx with teammates on either side of you than it is to defend the acres of open space that lies beyond.

Jesse Mogg isn’t much chop at the latter, but neither was Quade Cooper. McKenzie has now insisted (much to my relief) that Cooper defends in the front line, and since then, Cooper’s weak one-on-one tackling has become a non-issue and in fact has ameliorated noticeably.

We could do the same thing with Mogg if he were selected as a winger instead of a fullback.

Personally, I don’t know if it is worth it, but if it meant that he could position himself at the back for dealing with kicking duties while fielding on the wing when the runners come knocking, you could potentially get the best of his strengths while mitigating his weaknesses.

In any case, I digress. The subject at hand relates to his performance on the weekend, and to be honest, his defence was actually not that bad. Sure he did nothing to stop Luatua, but he didn’t disgrace himself elsewhere.

In fact, his tackle on Aaron Smith who had made a linebreak in the 63rd minute resulted in a forward pass and the consequent scrum-feed for the Wallabies.

Not bad for a fellow who ‘couldn’t stop a wet rag from scoring’.

I am not bringing this argument to you as a case for retaining Mogg for another week (although I think it could do that). I would just prefer for people to consider all of the data – for and against – before they go and make completely prejudiced generalisations that don’t wash with the facts.

So I beseech you, go back and watch the match again, and examine his input with an open mind. I think you will find that it wasn’t great, but it certainly wasn’t as bad as has been portrayed by the baying mob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex8vt1ZIJSU

The Crowd Says:

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2013-08-29T14:25:32+00:00

Rob na Champassak

Roar Guru


Hehe. You got me. Colvin, if I had said as much in my article, the topic of discussion would have revolved too much around whether Mogg could have made that tackle or not. I wanted the focus to be on his performance in his every involvement on the field. So by conceding one half-fallacy, I get people to consider my argument in its entirety rather than letting them dismiss it as partisan chest-thumping from another Brumbies fan ;)

2013-08-28T20:21:01+00:00

crusader fan

Guest


+1

2013-08-28T12:11:52+00:00

colvin

Guest


Sometimes I get real grumpy reading what I do on Roar. Let's look at Mogg. Rob is saying that one on one with Luatua should have been in the bag for Mogg..There's no way. Luatua was going like a freight train, Mogg was pretty stationery. Mogg had no chance of bagging Luatua. If Rob had ever been in that situation personally in a game he would have known that. But here he is bagging Mogg. At least Mogg pushed Luatua towards O'Connor who pulled him down. Robbie, our much criticized head coach, had it pretty near right with Mogg. On the bench and bring him on late in the game when he can make a difference. And gain experience. Mogg has a real future if treated properly. But he needs to learn how to kick with his right foot. Link, who I also support, got it completely wrong with Mogg. Too early for a run on spot. Talk about sink or swim.

2013-08-26T15:35:57+00:00

Tricky Dick

Roar Rookie


I think the issue isn't with one player being too small. Isn't it more about the centers pairing? I think JOC and LLF would be a bit powder puff in the middle. AAC seems to be fearless and willing to dish out the pain in the third channel. Moreover he seems able to break the line at will on offense. Now, JOC can also break the line, but doesn't seem to have the same defensive bent. I think if he was paired with a more traditional and ill-intentioned 12, or he himself was shifted to 12 and AAC remains at 13 (until someone else decides to step up) it could be a workable deal.

2013-08-26T15:27:12+00:00

Tricky Dick

Roar Rookie


I think it'll be interesting to see if Cooper regains some of his explosiveness as time goes on. I think it's a pretty big ask for a guy to come back from a devastating knee injury to 100% within a year, especially when such a big part of his play is his step/agility. I grew up playing gridiron and rugby and in college, it wasn't uncommon for a guy to blow out his knee, come back to play the next year, but really come on strong in his second year back, when not only his knee's integrity is fully restored, but also his confidence in cutting and planting on the damaged knee.

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2013-08-26T13:14:00+00:00

Rob na Champassak

Roar Guru


You don't think JOC is a little too small for a 13?

2013-08-26T10:36:00+00:00

Minz

Guest


Agreed he's a bit green now, but gunna disagree with you on the not in the future" bit. Mogg's got a massive boot, is bloody fast, and seems to have improved significantly under the high ball even since the super rugby season - showing that he's capable of improvement. This was his first season as a full member of a super rugby squad! With a little more experience, he should be able to put it together and nail those consistency and physicality elements that he's currently a bit short on at international level (IMO).

2013-08-26T10:10:51+00:00

Ra

Guest


ok steve, so you've made a statement, now clarify, and explain what you think it is that he needs to do differently, and what improved results we could look forward to

2013-08-26T09:19:19+00:00

Crusader fan

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In my 3 1/2yrs ITM coaching and many yrs as a senior division backs coach here in NZ club level, I think I can see enough skills for Mogg to be a good or even great at 10 in the future if he decide to play there. QC at 15 to spark anything from the back might work. This is base on the stock you Aussie have at first five at the moment, because I don't think QC or even Toomua is the answer. Although Toomua might still come right come 2015 but I can't see QC dominate in 2015. To fix the Wallabies backs for the rest of the comp, I would keep Genia, Toomua & Leali'ifano combo swap AAC with JOC, QC at 15. Folau and AAC to roam and pop up anywhere they like (basically work hard off the ball al day). Mogg to back up for 10 or 15, Cumming to cover the outsides and White to cover Genia.

2013-08-26T08:54:53+00:00

Chan Wee

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1) Scott Sio 2) Stephen Moore 3) Paddy Ryan 4) Hugh Pyle 5) James Horwill 6) Ben Mowen 7) David Pocock 8) Scott Higginbotham 9) Genia 10) Cooper 11)Mogg 12) Kuridrani 13)lealifano 14).Folau 15)JOC 16) James Slipper 17) Sekope Kepu 18) James Hanson 19) Peter Kimlin 20) Michael Hooper 21) White 22) speight 23) Beale IMO ur assumption that Mogg was playing the kicking game to a greater plan may be correct. also it may be due to the issue MIB had at line out time and at brekdown in the first test. toobad they came prepared to contest lineouts and breakdown. However what is evident is that MOgg is not a natural full back like my man JOC. Mogg's positioning and covering seems confused. What i find strnge is that for a guy who is said to be a sprinter (100m in 11seconds) he does not lay a hand on Luatua , a slow bulky guy. That meant JOC had to come off his wing and rest i s history. Anotherthing I have observed is that Mogg as full back hardly ever contests a high ball and often leaves it to folau. HOwever Dagg is almost aways the guy who gos up for the Garry Owen ! The MIB knew this for sure becos many up and unders were contested by Dagg, Read , McCaw and Savea. Big guys who can match Folau arialy. One shud not forget the experience MIB pack in their team, compared to the OZ. the intensity of all blacks attack and defence are much more than the oz. that is due to playing alongside the same people over and over and over. at the same time i have observed a change in their attack , maybe due to the constant change of 10. when carter plays the MIB attack on the fringe with pop pass on the shoulder , sometimes blindly expecting the next guy to run support line. in these 2 tests at least i did nt see it much; it was more front foot ball with a spread pass, running from depth. that is wht led to the intercept and also a dropped pass to mccaw on the wing (was it a smith?) anotherthing evident is the speed of attack, especially with smith at scrum half. in the first 15 minutes he got collared a few times by hooper and mowen but after that he just played around them. its this speed that created both trys.

2013-08-26T08:16:21+00:00

Johnno

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Hansie I think your wrong there. Caputo's last test he was dropped after an average performance, and never played again. Sean Fitzpatrick mauled him, Fitz popped him all day, in the 1997 debacle at Lancaster Park, one of aussies most darkest rugby days,awful whitewash.

2013-08-26T08:12:51+00:00

Hansie

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This is exactly the point. Mogg had a reasonable game in Bledisloe 2, but as Jake White has been pointing out all year Mogg needs more time before he is a test regular. And in fairness to Mogg, he wasn't given a light warm up against Romania or something. It was straight in (in a relatively inexperienced team) against the All Blacks.

2013-08-26T08:10:12+00:00

Hansie

Guest


A point of trivia - Caputo was man of the match in his last test. Not many can claim that achievement.

2013-08-26T07:09:05+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


Bernie wasn't a great defender and lost possession in contact too much. Bernie however had a background at halfback and threw beautiful long torpedoes to both sides, though not as well as Cooper.

2013-08-26T07:06:42+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


Once Speight is eligible, it's an even easier pick. 11. Speight 14. JOC 15. Folau

2013-08-26T06:40:32+00:00

Andy

Guest


Seriously what duel were you watching? Mogg pinned him back. Dagg let fly with one of the best kicks I've seen in a long time. Mogg's return was almost as good but forced Dagg to throw the ball in to Savea, who kicked it back about as well as I'd expect a front rower to. Sorry Kev but that duel was won by Mogg. It's not just my Canberra glasses, he won it. If he hadn't won it I would not have been surprised but he forced Dagg's hand which is no easy task.

2013-08-26T06:01:24+00:00

dirtyrottenscoundrell

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Hmmm... Let us consider common ground between Bernie and Mogg! 1. Brumbies 2. Fullbacks originally (for Brums) 3. Support (both chased their kicks and supported broken play) 3. Big boot (Bernie didn't) 4. Bernie could tackle 5. Hair.... Mogg should end up bald You take it from here... I'm enthralled.

2013-08-26T04:45:29+00:00

crusader fan

Guest


I would groom J. Mogg as a long term 10, he's a bit like Stephen Larkham wasted at fullback when he first played for the Wallabies. He's got a big boot and skills to be a good 10.

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2013-08-26T04:21:08+00:00

Rob na Champassak

Roar Guru


Hell of a backline you've got there. I would put Mogg on the bench and Henry Speight on the right wing, but I wouldn't mind at all if this were the backline for the RWC. For me, the jury is still out on the 10 jersey. I am confident that Toomua has it in him to step up, but it is very difficult to deny that Cooper is showing all the right signs of having turned the corner. I am having to reevaluate him. Still, I think the pack is what really matters. But even there, there are some exciting prospects: 1) Scott Sio 2) Stephen Moore 3) Paddy Ryan 4) Scott Fardy 5) James Horwill 6) Ben Mowen 7) David Pocock 8) Scott Higginbotham 16) James Slipper 17) Sekope Kepu 18) James Hanson 19) Peter Kimlin 20) Michael Hooper Imagine a pack like that for the RWC. The tightheads would need to step up, but there is real potential there.

2013-08-26T04:03:59+00:00

bluebull cw

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15-folau 14-o connor 11-mogg 12-lealifano 13-kuridrani 10-cooper 9-genia(bring his spark back)

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