Sam Burgess will flop in rugby

By Sam Bright / Roar Rookie

Sam Burgess will be a let down in rugby – you heard it here first. The speculation surrounding a switch to the fifteen-man code has been confirmed with Burgess announcing he will be moving to Bath after the 2014 NRL season.

Playing at the World Cup in England has been cited as the decisive factor in the decision to make the switch.

Most reports are assuming he will comfortably slot into the centres in union and be a key player in the World Cup next year.

Considering how great big Sam has been for the Rabbits and England during the last five years as dynamic, offloading wrecking ball in attack and a big hitting enforcer in defence, I can see why there is a lot of excitement about him playing in the World Cup.

However, I’m not sure I’ve seen enough from Burgess to see him make the successful switch to union, here’s why:

His first issue is speed. When looking at the more successful league to union converts in the professional era, the majority of them have been suited to the extra space given to them in the backline of union.

Mat Rogers, Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri, Jason Robinson, and more recently Sonny Bill Williams and Israel Folau all experienced great success, but all had speed to burn.

Burgess is very mobile for a man of his size, but compared to most backs playing international rugby he’s literally not up to speed. In attack, especially in a World Cup, every opportunity must be taken. Half chances must be converted, half breaks turned into line breaks, and I don’t think Sam has the gas to do that from long range.

His second stumbling block is his ball-playing ability, or lack of. Of the players mentioned above, Sonny Bill is probably the closest to Burgess in terms of the role expected of him in the centres.

In league Sonny was a wide running backrower or centre, whereas Sam is a prop or backrower who does his best work in traffic up the middle of the park.

Sonny already had one of the best offloads in either code before he made the switch, as well as the ability to ball play (although this aspect of his game developed greatly during his time in rugby).

When you look at the best inside centres in world rugby at the moment, Ma’a Nonu and Wesley Fofana, both can throw 25m passes on both sides under pressure, as well as play the ball at the line and choose the best option.

From what we’ve seen from Burgess in league, I’d be surprised if he had those skills.

Away from attack, defence also poses a large problem for big Sam.

Apart from the head start he’ll be giving away against most international centres, there’s the widely held belief that the centres are the hardest place to defend in rugby.

Most code-hoppers play in the back three, at least until they learn the game in terms of reading play, breakdowns, commitment to rucks etc.

Defence in union is nothing like league, in that the centres are constantly changing sides of the ruck, their position on the field (unlike a prop in league always defending the in the middle), and generally have the most space to defend of anybody in the team.

This is especially evident on a big open side or centre field scrum. Remember Timana Tahu in the centres for the Wallabies in 2008 v the Springboks? Not pretty.

Time is also against Burgess, especially considering the fact he will play in the NRL in 2014. This means he will arrive in the UK at the earliest in September, giving him 12 months until England kick off the World Cup against an Oceania Qualifier on September 18 2015.

Even the highly skilled Sonny Bill took effectively three seasons (two with Toulon and one in the ITM cup with Canterbury) before making his international debut, and despite being a reserve winger during the 2011 World Cup, it wasn’t until 2012 at the Chiefs that he really shone as a world class centre.

Burgess won’t even get a rugby pre-season under his belt before the Northern Hemisphere season.

When looking at other similar players to Burgess in terms of their position and style of play to switch from league to union, the two names that come to mind are Willie Mason and Andy Farrell.

Willie was a flop in the code, and although Andy Farrell did play for England, he only made eight international appearances.

The final hurdle for Burgess is England already have a world class centre in Manu Tuilagi, the 116kg wrecking ball that almost single-handedly denied the All-Blacks an undefeated season in 2012.

There’s also the very reliable Luther Burrell and the ever-improving Billy Twelvetrees already in the England set up and staking strong claims during the current six nations, as well as a few other candidates that might have something to say about Burgess’ place at the cup.

Considering these issues I’d say Sam Burgess might have bitten off more than he can chew.

His name, reputation and RFU pay packet will probably see him given the nod in any close selection calls, but he has a huge task ahead of him if he wants to make a real statement as a top class rugby player, let alone in time for next year’s rugby World Cup.

The Crowd Says:

2015-11-13T13:18:56+00:00

Patrick

Guest


Mate - you nailed it! you should get your application in to the RFU for the newly vacant head coach role

2014-10-11T23:09:08+00:00

Alvin Purple

Guest


But you said League players do not like the rough stuff. Understand the rucking and mauling can be brutal but the statement you made seems to be a little bias

2014-02-26T20:37:30+00:00

supertrooper

Guest


'as good if not better than sunny bill ' what you been smoking bro' and can i have some , sonny bill and his team won a premiership in his first season back in league , how are souths doing

2014-02-22T16:17:16+00:00

Lee Davis

Guest


I've never heard so much garbage have you watched him play. Or have you watched him at full speed. I don't think ya have he as good if not better than sunny bill.

2014-02-22T09:28:13+00:00

bill boomer

Guest


Yeah but Folau was classes better in league, there was NO doubt that he would succeed handsomely. Sam on the other hand is no mug but I'd be taking a wait and see how he goes at Bath approach.

2014-02-21T12:31:24+00:00

In Brief

Guest


Harry, what you bin smoking man. Ray Price is a rugby man - grew up playing for Dundas Valley - used to see Donald running the water back in the day. By rough stuff I am talking about rucking and mauling. Sam Burgess is tough of course, but does he want to get involved in the tight forward play, not sure. Boxers are tough, but most don't like wrestling.

2014-02-21T11:46:39+00:00

HARRY HOPWORTHY

Guest


In Brief, that's the most stupid and pathetic comment I've ever heard of, even for a Rugby Union fan. So the likes of Greg Dowling, Mal Reilly, Les Boyd, Ray Price, Kevin Tamati , Tommy Raudonokis, Les Davidson, Kevin Ward, and legions of other Rugby League genuinely tough and hard men, didn't and don't like the rough stuff ? That's got to be a joke.

2014-02-19T23:09:59+00:00

RF

Guest


Finally had a look at the bloke. I really can't see him playing in the backs he's incredibly slow...even slower than Bastareaud. Also the way he tackles he'll be spending a lot of time in the sin-bin - probably at crucial times for England. England have a lot of big one dimensional, hard running backs to choose from. What they really need is decent back that can step and distribute.

2014-02-19T06:12:58+00:00

Lassitude

Guest


Positionally 8 is tough - it'll take him 2-3 years to get that. 6 is a bit better but even so I can remember watching Thorn trying to adapt to 6 when he first came across and it was farcical. I don't think there's a position for him to move into that would be easy enough for him to handle and step up to internationals.

2014-02-19T04:07:54+00:00

Pot Stirrer

Guest


Say the blokes who parade in pink speedos on roof tops.

2014-02-19T03:42:07+00:00

cm

Guest


LOL

2014-02-19T02:46:24+00:00

In Brief

Guest


League players don't like the rough stuff, so keep him in the backs away from the nasty business.

2014-02-19T00:46:58+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


Those are some good highlights of a powerful person, but not a great footballer I don't think. He looks to bust through too often, rather than set up his outside man.

2014-02-18T19:46:34+00:00

Farmer

Guest


What about him playing in the second row??

2014-02-18T18:31:04+00:00

foriz

Guest


Actually Spiro was first to predict Burgess would be less than successful. SBW critical skill is his offloading offloading. By Burgess is is quite poor by comparison.He has not got the time to learn loose forward skills and otherwise lacks pace as a back.

2014-02-18T12:43:12+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Have you seen the English backs pass a ball lately? They struggle with short passes let alone cut out/miss passes.

2014-02-18T12:32:40+00:00

Magic Sponge

Guest


The 10 can always throw a cut out pass if they want to get it out wide to Brown. Burgess does not have to be a playmaker. I'd love to see him against Beale if Beale somehow got the 12 jersey. Interesting contest. The hits SBW vs Burgess will be electric. Bring on the World Cup,

2014-02-18T12:25:36+00:00

Magic Sponge

Guest


Yeah like how Folau flopped. 95% Roarers were eating their words after ridiculing David Lord for saying that Folau would star in his 1st year.

2014-02-18T12:25:00+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Running like a league forward will see him choke tackled. Regularly.

2014-02-18T12:23:19+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Which is a pile of ..... Fofana for his size is powerful and has more line breaking ability then Bastereaud.

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