NRL's 'ten-year men' prove the value of veterans

By Andrew Marmont / Roar Guru

Rugby league seems to get faster each year – the speed of the play the balls, players are bigger, fitter and stronger than before – so what place for the older brigade?

A high percentage of players in the NRL are between 21 and 24 years old. Fans are quick to lament their veteran signings as past it, slow and a waste of money.

Yet the average NRL career is 43 games based on statistics provided by the NRL and RLPA, meaning the very few that make the NRL play less than five years. Of what value is that extra game time and experience?

I bet we could select a pretty good team with at least ten years’ professional experience who are currently active – let’s call them the ‘Ten-Year Men’.

These are players with vast game time, often playing for multiple teams.

So what are their secrets of longevity? Kava? Being injury free? Are they talented enough to see out a long professional career?

Maybe a long career requires all of the above. Let’s look at our team of Ten-Year Men and analyse any common patterns.

Fullback: Anthony Minichiello (Sydney Roosters, NSW, Italy, Australia)
An institution at the back for the Roosters for the past 13 years and still a fine player, Minichiello captained the Roosters to a premiership last year to go with the 2002 triumph and was Australia’s No.1 fullback for a number of years.

Just as significant is his contribution with Italy – firstly helping them quality for the World Cup last year, then defeating Wales and drawing with Scotland in the group stages.

Wing: Lote Tuqiri (Brisbane Broncos, Wests Tigers, South Sydney, Queensland, Fiji, Australia)
A sign of Tuqiri’s value and ability was the fact he was selected for Australia nine years after his last Test match in 2001.

A prolific early career with the Broncos then a World Cup with Fiji in 2000, he was a hit for the Wallabies and Queensland Reds in rugby union over seven years.

Tuqiri joined South Sydney this year after a stint with the Tigers and still has great speed.

Centre: Jamie Lyon (Parramatta Eels, St Helens, Manly Sea Eagles, NSW, Australia)
Big League magazine’s 2001 grand final edition earmarks Jamie Lyon as having a bright future – 13 years later he remains one of the game’s finest centres, a classy player who really gets beaten in defence.

His stint in the Super League made him arguably a more complete player and honed his goal kicking. He last played for Australia in 2010 and is unlikely to again due to his self-enforced retirement from representative football, but remains vital for Manly.

Centre: Jerome Ropati (NZ Warriors, New Zealand)
It is hard to believe Ropati is in his eleventh season since his NRL debut given his injury-plagued last few years.

He’s a consistent player when fit for the Warriors and was a classy centre for the Kiwis, particularly in the 2008 World Cup. Still an important player for Warriors, he could be their missing link at centre after getting through pre-season unscathed.

Wing: Pat Richards (Paramatta Eels, Wests Tigers, Wigan Warriors, Ireland)
Most NRL fans will remember Richards for his feats for the Tigers in the 2005 grand final, yet his career is much more layered than this.

A fine Wigan Warriors player for eight years, he was named Man of Steel in 2010 and has played for Ireland since their 2008 World Cup.

An undervalued player who will add starch to a Tigers’ side full of youngsters, he scored a try in his first match back last week.

Five-eighth: Braith Anasta (Canterbury Bulldogs, Sydney Roosters, Wests Tigers, NSW, Australia, Greece)
Good enough to play for Australia in his second year of NRL and has played five-eighth or lock in his 14-year career.

A loyal clubman with the Bulldogs (five years) and Roosters (six years), few players seem to get as much flak from the fans. He should be seen as a durable, skilled player whose leadership was obviously seen by the Tigers.

Halfback: Johnathan Thurston (Canterbury Bulldogs, North Queensland Cowboys, Queensland, Australia)
Now Australia’s greatest point scorer in Test history, his accolades include RLIF halfback and player of the year, Golden Boot winner and Dally M player of the year (twice).

Was named man of the match in four World Cup matches last year and remains a huge part of North Queensland, Maroons and Kangaroos teams. Twelve years of professional football is a testament to his skill and durability, and he is still only 30.

Prop: Brent Kite (St George Illawarra, Manly Sea Eagles, Penrith Panthers, NSW, Tonga, Australia)
A World Cup player for Tonga and Australia, Kite helped Manly to a golden period between 2005-2013 after an early career with St George.

He’s a little less mobile than before but will give Penrith great experience, leadership and toughness. Phil Gould knew what he was doing when getting Kite on board at Penrith.

Hooker: Cameron Smith (Melbourne Storm, Queensland, Australia)
Australia’s best ever hooker and one of the NRL’s best skippers. It’s poignant that he will go past Matt Geyer as Melbourne’s most capped player ever this weekend.

He already has 37 Tests and 30 Origins for Queensland and has at least a few more years left as captain of both teams. Smith has re-signed with the Storm and remains as vital as Craig Bellamy.

Prop: Willie Mason (Canterbury Bulldogs, Sydney Roosters, North Queensland Cowboys, Newcastle Knights, NSW, Tonga, Australia)
After a colourful 14-year career, Mason has surprisingly matured into a senior pro under Wayne Bennett’s Newcastle Knights.

Was a mainstay of Australia’s pack in the mid-2000s after an earlier World Cup with Tonga. His value (and changed approach) was rewarded with a two-year contract extension at the Knights.

Mason still polarises people, but is a tough and uncompromising prop.

Second-row: Sam Thaiday (Brisbane Broncos, Queensland, Australia)
A Broncos regular since 2003, then graduating to a Queensland and Australian regular from 2006, Thaiday is still renowned for his mobility and skill in the back row.

More than 23 Tests later he is as consistent as they come and although he is no longer captain at Brisbane, is a tireless tackler and is looking to recapture his best form in 2014.

Second-row: Corey Parker (Brisbane Broncos, Queensland, Australia)
It seems like Parker has been around forever – 13 years is a long time. Like Thaiday, has only ever played for Brisbane and has been rewarded in the latter part of his career with selection for Australia and Queensland.

Was named as skipper for the Broncos’ 2014 season after Thaiday stepped down, underlining his value. Ever-present.

Lock: Kurt Gidley (Newcastle Knights, New South Wales, Australia)
Gidley is another man who has played 13 years in the NRL and has achieved New South Wales and Australian jerseys later in his career. Still an integral part of Newcastle’s team with his utility value shining through – he is a competent fullback, five-eighth, halfback or hooker.  And when fit, he still commands a bench spot for Australia.

All of the above have great talent and all have plied their trade for more than one team, be it club or representative. Most have remained fairly injury-free, suggesting a mixture of durability, luck and quality conditioning.

Granted, these are some of the NRL’s top players, however the common themes are all have great experience, can bring different perspectives and know how to overcome setbacks – all golden traits for any club.

So don’t lambast your veterans just yet, even if they aren’t on this list.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2014-03-17T09:06:06+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


Thanks Atko - Tate and Hodges have certainly had special careers. Tate's 100 metre try in the first Tri-Nations game in 2005 (he bet about seven players) will always remain in my memory - and his resilience to come back from such serious neck injuries. Hodges too.

AUTHOR

2014-03-17T09:03:32+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


Thanks Planko, nice link to the good players play for good teams too, agree.

2014-03-17T00:58:20+00:00

planko

Roar Guru


Andrew nice piece. I reckon the older players get there by being in part lucky with injuries but smart as well in the twilight. Look at your main examples that are playing really well still. Cameron Smith plays in a good team. Jamie Lyon plays in a good team. JT plays in a good team. All of these players have chosen to stay in their comfort zone in good teams for less money. I believe this helps them continue on. If Jamie Lyon goes to Gold Coast he is a stand out someone you can almost double mark but in the Manly backline he is just one of many. Most of them have played in Golden Era's of the clubs they have played for cause this allows them not to get "smashed" every week.

2014-03-17T00:48:33+00:00

Haz

Guest


Now THAT is a champion team.

2014-03-17T00:47:22+00:00

Haz

Guest


Yeah, Gidley should be on the bench, which is where he's always at, on rep teams. Gallen for a ball-running lock, Glenn Stewart for a ball-playing lock.

2014-03-16T15:11:11+00:00

Atko

Guest


Tate and Hodges could easily have taken Ropati's spot. Both have done remarkable things to get past injuries. Good article though, it's the veterans that make it the game we love.

2014-03-16T14:11:58+00:00

Rabbits

Guest


Gidley at lock. Don't think so. Rag doll material or at best ineffective.

2014-03-16T11:20:25+00:00

MikeTV

Guest


Here's a team of the 300 Club: 1. Darren Lockyer 2. Andrew Ettingshausen 3. Geoff Gerard 4. Brad Fittler 5. Hazem El Masri 6. Terry Lamb 7. Cliff Lyons 8. Steve Price 9. Luke Priddis 10. Ruben Wiki 12. Nathan Hindmarsh 11. Paul Langmack 13. Steve Menzies Bench: Jason Croker

AUTHOR

2014-03-16T03:21:29+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


Hi Jake - again, this is just a selection of some of NRL's veterans - and I'd hope people would debate/disagree/agree with me....

2014-03-16T03:11:49+00:00

Bearfax

Guest


Long play the old blokes. Bring back Lockyer, Johns and Menzies.

2014-03-16T03:05:55+00:00

Jake

Guest


Hodges & Tate are not only better players than Ropati but also made their debuts earlier and played more games also. Is this team not meant to be the best team or just your personal favourites?

AUTHOR

2014-03-16T02:49:51+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


Thanks WB - yes, I think I was thinking of the dark red of Brisbane in his early career, he did play all his Super Rugby with the Waratahs. I think he has surprised a lot of people by his durability, amazing to think he debuted so long ago and could still come back into the NRL with success.

2014-03-16T02:44:11+00:00

Passionate_Aussie

Roar Rookie


The best three on this list is easily Parker, Smith and Lyon. Thaiday does alright top :P

2014-03-16T02:32:58+00:00

Worlds Biggest

Guest


Nice piece Andrew, just a slight error with Lote. He never played for the Reds, he played all his Super Rugby with the Waratahs.

2014-03-16T02:31:37+00:00

Worlds Biggest

Guest


Nice

2014-03-16T01:27:32+00:00

uPelican

Guest


There you go. That explains the evolution of the game from local amateur juniors to professionals. Just like golf in many respects; many are called, but few are chosen. Of course, there's no reason in theory why the game couldn't still be played as an amateur pursuit, but it would look very different to how it does today. The finished product is better today as a result of the money that's come into it. There's still the local park for those not chosen to have a run around and a BBQ afterwards.

AUTHOR

2014-03-16T01:12:06+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


thanks uPelican - more info here: http://www.rugbyleague.com.au/nrlwelfare/files/CDAA_presentation_NRL_2012.pdf Some more stats taken from this document: Each year: 160,000... will play junior rugby league 3,000...will play Representative u13s to u15 1,500... will play Representative u16s and u18s 550... will play Toyota Cup (u20s) 60 NRL debutants will play NRL!

2014-03-16T01:10:37+00:00

Squidward

Roar Rookie


Like you the bloke who couldn't hack it in origin and quit

2014-03-16T01:05:43+00:00

uPelican

Guest


This is a really interesting article. I had never thought about the length of the average career of a player and am sort of taken aback to learn that it's an average of 43 games mainly in under five years. That explains the game reading ability of the older blokes and their ability to settle and direct play. They've got the experience. Maybe by way of analogy; in the American war in Vietnam over 15 years, the American troops were rotated out of action every 12 months, and their officers were rotated out every six months. The American troops by default ended up fighting 15 one year wars, and their officers 30 six month wars, compared to the 15 year war that the Vietnamese fought in defence of their country. We all know who won.

2014-03-16T00:25:49+00:00

Aelgates

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Not a fan of Jamie Lyon personally due to his walking out on parra (I'm not even a parra fan!!) & nsw but do respect his footballing talent - editor may want to correct the minor error in his blurb where the word 'really' is used instead of 'rarely' -- Comment from The Roar's iPhone app.

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