Four ways to fix rugby's scrum disaster

By Edward Pye / Roar Guru

You have to give credit to commentator Phil Kearns for trying to make the scrum contest between the Rebels and Crusaders on the weekend at least seem watchable.

Kearns brought up some stats that showed that scrum resets have been on the decrease since the introduction of the new crouch/bind/set call. But if that game was an example of an improvement, then the last few years must have been an absolute disaster.

The scrummaging in that game was frustrating to say the least. From the armchair view, it looked as though both sides were trying their best to be cynical and destabilise opposition ball, which led to a lot of collapses and a lot of time wasted.

There were three New Zealand-bred props in that game and a long-time operator in Laurie Weeks. All of them seemed to use tactics designed to ruin the spectacle.

In New Zealand, from a young age you are taught how to destabilise a scrum.

I played in the front row for 15 years and I remember having a scrummaging session with former Judo champion and All Black prop, Steve McDowell. He showed us how to destabilise your opponent by repositioning your bind or changing your body angle.

Locks, too, can destabilise the scrum by pushing downward from the hips rather than straight. Loose forwards can swing around and bore into the opposition props.

From a physics point of view, it’s an extremely complex process which relies on everyone actually trying to keep the scrum up, though that’s not what happens when you make it competitive.

Some people throw the blame on the refs but that’s a bit of a beat up. Refs are just doing their best in a situation that is very difficult to manage to everyone’s satisfaction.

It is impossible to get a perfect scrum ruling, but it seems the refs are just looking for a ruling to justify giving a penalty either way rather than actually having any idea of what is going on.

James Leckie’s scrum calls in the Rebels game were a complete lottery.

Yes, he called penalties and most were technically correct, but the real issue was that there were multiple other infringements happening at the same time that he could have called also.

Leckie just ended up picking the one that was most obvious to the people who critique him. It’s a completely subjective process that can be influenced by so many different factors, not least the reputation of the prop coming into the game.

If you ever watch props after they are penalised at scrum time, they rarely complain. They just head back the 10 metres with a zoned-out look on their face.

It’s not because they are thinking about dinner, it’s because they know that the ref is just guessing and the penalty is not really against them as an individual – it’s against the crazy notion that 16 angry tangled men will be able to stay upright.

The current guess work is not the solution to constant resets. It is akin to moving your toe around to plug up different holes as they pop up in your life raft.

So as someone who has played in the front row and now refs, I would like to throw out some ideas on how to stabilise the scrums more and take the guess work away from the refs.

1. Make “hand on the ground” legal
When the pressure is on at scrum time, you often see props dropping their bind and putting a hand on the ground to keep themselves stable, an infringement that is easy for refs to see and instantly penalisable.

With scrum resets becoming the norm, this penalty completely negates that reason for putting the hand down – to add stability to your position.

The two props on either side of the scrum form an arch with the pressure point in the middle. This is often where the scrum collapses because the arch cannot withstand the pressure.

If both props were able to support the arch with their arms, then, by rights, the scrum should become more stable.

2. Put handles on jerseys
If you were not a fan of option No. 11 then this might take your fancy more. In the same way that handles on the thighs of lineout jumpers have become in-vogue, law-makers could move to put handles on the side of props’ jerseys.

In the Rebels-Crusaders game, Wyatt Crockett in particular was a shocker. His bind was all over the place. It moved from the shorts, to the bottom of the jersey, to the shoulder.

The idea with keeping your bind up is that the position of your arm dictates which direction you are pushing. If your bind is up, then your back should be straight and you should be stable. But the binding is rarely consistent.

If you were to sew on heavy duty handles in the correct position and players were made to hold onto these, it should keep the scrum more stable and give the ref a much better idea of when the players were dropping a bind.

3. Have two refs – one either side of the scrum
One of the problems with scrums is that if a ref is monitoring one side of a scrum, the players know they are being watched and they have to behave. However, the ref can’t see the other side, leaving the props on that side free to misbehave.

If, as has been suggested by Graham Henry, you were to bring on a touch judge or another ref all together, both sides would be monitored and props would have less leeway to be cynical.

4. Reduce the penalty kick to two points
This idea was suggested by Mark Reason on rugbyheaven.co.nz last week and besides being interesting from a try-scoring point of view, it is also relevant at the scrum.

As Reason suggested, the refs are really just guessing at what is happening at the scrums and it’s not really fair for them to be able to give away a three-point penalty for something that is completely subjective.

He suggested making a penalty worth two points which would take away some of the impact of subjective scrum penalties.

While it’s an interesting idea, it may encourage props to be more cynical with their tactics and lead to even more scrum collapses.

Certainly, the new bind call has led to a safer scrum, but I will be interested to see if Phil Kearns’ statistic remains true throughout the season.

If not, one of these options could be the answer.

The Crowd Says:

2014-03-20T23:28:48+00:00

Ajax

Guest


Well in the army, sometimes if it was clear one pack was inexperienced and likely to get hurt, the front rowers would engage seperatly, (all 6 of them), the ref would call "seconds in" and then the locks and back row would engage, there was a natural pause as both sides got their balance, and then both sides would push at the instigation of one of the hookers. The halfback would put it in when he was ready, the ref didnt have much involvment at all, the scrums never collapsed and no one got hurt.

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2014-03-20T23:17:58+00:00

Edward Pye

Roar Guru


Hey Biltong, that was one of the main scrummaging tactics I was taught as a kid - even to go as far as binding on the front of the collar and pulling the body weight of the prop downwards. Its a tactic designed to destabilize the opposing props balance but it just ends up collapsing the scrum

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2014-03-20T23:13:28+00:00

Edward Pye

Roar Guru


As much as it is a traditional part of rugby, I agree. I dont think it will ever happen because if you get rid of scrums then you get rid of a game that all body shapes can play and that is one of the base lines for IRB promotion of the game.

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2014-03-20T23:10:15+00:00

Edward Pye

Roar Guru


I don't think teams think that having the scrum collapse on opposition ball is some kind of victory, I think the collapses are merely a side effect of the front rows trying their utmost to beat the other guy (often using illegal tactics) Unfortunately, with the back line offside line being 5 meters off a scrum, other teams will probably just take another scrum if they get a short arm. Perhaps they should change the rule so that you can't take a scrum from a short arm.

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2014-03-20T23:02:37+00:00

Edward Pye

Roar Guru


I think Smith wants to play international rugby and sees an easier path over in Aus

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2014-03-20T23:00:32+00:00

Edward Pye

Roar Guru


Winter is coming Eddard, time to get the footy boots out

2014-03-20T11:57:45+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Yes, likely during transition phase. Until the front row and SH accepts that every (obvious) infringements will be detected

2014-03-20T09:34:36+00:00

soapit

Guest


thats all fine if the refs had any idea about what is going on in the scrum and could actually penalise everyone who infringed but increase scrum penalty values and you'll get many more games decided by lottery and no more less chance that the re will blame the other team for the result of your shenanigans so i dont think it would be a good way to go.

2014-03-20T09:29:24+00:00

soapit

Guest


what exactly is this advantage they'd be getting. would they be winning tightheads?

2014-03-20T09:26:19+00:00

soapit

Guest


you reduce the consequence but also the incentive. would there be much to be gained from infringing in scrums if 3 points wasnt on offer? territory is all you'd get and i'd say most times thered be better ways for teams to make the measly few metres you get from a scrum. i think you do need to have the option for full arm at least though as teams will no doubt intentionally collapse at some points but should be kept for when one team is being squeaky clean and the other clearly not.

2014-03-20T02:08:07+00:00

Richard

Guest


I have been arguing (for a while now) for the reverse of making penalties less valuable. If we want to reduce the number of penalties a player is prepared to give away you need to make it REALLY hurt if they do. Make a penalty 10 points. No one will consider dropping a scrum in their own half, collapsing a maul near their try line, diving over a ruck, not rolling away. Players will score tries because they are allowed to! Remember the ELVs? A lot of infringements were turned to freekicks, players gave away endless numbers of free kicks, because they preferable to a try or a penalty. I think we also need to be very careful that the tiny percent of the game played @ this level doesn't dictate what is happening everywhere else. I coach @ school boy level, there are VERY few resets. A lot of club rugby too has very little in the way of resets. Players @ this level aren't affected by it and therefore shouldnt be affected by rule changes addressing 2% of the playing population.

2014-03-19T17:08:52+00:00

Kuruki

Roar Guru


It would be better then having 20 minutes worth of scrum resets would it not?

2014-03-18T21:05:36+00:00

Matt

Guest


In Brief, I'm right behind you with these suggestions and their logic. It's exactly what I would suggest, along with banning the halfback from moving passed the tunnel. Removing penalties is the first step. The biggest problem with the modern scrum is that dominant sides now also want to cause a collapse, as they seek a shot at goal. Remove the penalty option and the dominant scrum now just wants to win clean ball or challenge the contest. The move to a 5 man pack is certainly radical, but unfortunately the field is now so condensed that it has changed the game into a phase play style, more akin to Rugby League. There is something wrong about the idea of a guy like Sam Burgess being a midfield back. With all the conditioning, stoppages and 8 man bench's the game has become far too much about power and not enough about speed. I think it's time that we dropped two forwards and created some more space and moved back towards a more open style of game.

2014-03-18T13:47:03+00:00

ScrumJunkie

Guest


Trust me, I won't be betting against the AB's. I just wish they would stop whinging about the scrum, and instead think of a solution on the field like they usually do.

2014-03-18T13:44:21+00:00

ScrumJunkie

Guest


It is so rare when I agree with every word Tane says.

2014-03-18T13:41:28+00:00

ScrumJunkie

Guest


So true. Best to break neither.

2014-03-18T13:35:01+00:00


I am assuming you mean loosehead side as the side feeding the ball, as both sides of the scrum has a loose head side. ;) Either way, I don't agree with your assumption, the bind of the tight head will quickly tell you who is guilty, if the tight head binds illegally, ie. under the arm of the loosehead he can easily pull the loosehead down, if he binds on the arm, he can pull the arm down, and by default the shoulder, which implicates the tight head and not the loosehead. the Loosehead on the other hand can easily be detected in whether he is either scrumming up, or in. The problem is when all this is going on, who do you penalise first?

2014-03-18T13:30:45+00:00


Tane, I think lack of consequence in this case will weed out the tactics that are just trying to get easy penalties, there is more incentive to collapse currently than there is to keep the scrum up. If you remove the incentive of a penalty, then the better scrummers will have no motivation to cheat. Hence the poorer scrummer will by default be the team infringing and there for cost their team meters.

2014-03-18T12:25:56+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


:) hahaha thanks jez and lion! Yes it was a bit of a rhetorical question I have to say but am glad you two shared some of your stories. And no am not that surprised that you guys experienced it too !! ;) This stuff is also part of rugby. love it

2014-03-18T11:16:01+00:00

Tane Mahutam

Guest


Sheek, exactly what would you give a free kick for instead of a penalty? Whatever the infringements are that would be only a free kick instead of a penalty you can expect a lot more of those infringements, all accidental though, a team would never ever consider taking advantage of less consequence.

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