Tales from a rugby dinner: Justin Marshall, John Taylor, and a certain referee

By jeznez / Roar Guru

The last weekend in March meant that the IRB Sevens carnival rolled into Hong Kong. Excitement filled the air as ‘Sevens Week’ got into full flow. And it is a full week, even longer for some as rugby nuts start their build up with the Manila 10s tournament the week before.

The Kowloon 10s tournament is the main warm up during the week, along with a huge list of parties, dinners and functions put on by clubs and corporates. The Hong Kong Cricket Club’s rugby section, my club, hosts our annual sevens dinner on the Thursday night before the big show kicks off.

In a black tie, sit down affair, we had two great speakers.

First up was Justin Marshall whose skill behind the commentary mic transferred easily to the stage. He shared some great insights into some of the motivations and drivers of All Black success along with a few anecdotes.

His best was a tale of him and his fellow All Black debutants Andrew Mehrtens, Anton Oliver, Taine Randell and Tabai Matson trying to storm the back seat of the All Blacks bus.

It was a hilarious tale made even funnier by the fact they were trying to take the seats of the then senior All Blacks Sean Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown, Craig Dowd, Richard Loe, Robin Brooke and Frank Bunce.

Everyone in the room had an inkling how this attempt would work out but it was great story, well told and well received.

Next up was a man I was not familiar with, Wales and British and Irish Lions flanker and later rugby commentator John Taylor.

Chatting to him after his speech we spoke about a range of rugby topics and Owen Finegan came up. At this stage I realised that I had heard John’s call of the 1999 World Cup Final as we laughed about Melon continuing to look for support as he surged towards the line.

It was John Taylor in the broadcast booth who thundered out “Just go for it, man!”. A simple piece of commentary that I heard at the time and recall to this day.

The highlight of the night for me was a tale from Taylor about the 1969 Antipodes tour by Wales. They suffered a couple of losses in New Zealand before heading to Sydney to play the Wallabies. Colin Meads asked Taylor who would be refereeing the Test and the answer was Australian Craig Ferguson. Meads warned JT that wasn’t very good.

Taylor asked Pinetree what the issue with Ferguson was and Meads replied that in a recent Bledisloe Cup match he had asked Ferguson whose feed to the scrum it was. Meads knew there was going to be an issue when Ferguson replied “Ours”.

The Sydney Test rolled around, and playing on a wet day on the SCG, Wales had a nine-point lead and felt comfortably in control of the match. Then Ferguson began to swing the match against the Welsh as penalty after penalty flowed to the home team.

In the final play of the game, trailing by five, the Wallabies winger scored a diving, sliding ‘try’ in the corner with the unfortunate evidence where he had torn up the turf while sliding in from outside the touch line ignored by the officials.

One of the defending Welshmen called Ferguson a “bloody cheat” and the referee was quick to leap on the transgression by awarding a penalty to the Wallabies as a restart. The Wallabies were unable to kick the conversion or the resulting 50m penalty and Wales hung on for the win.

That remains the last time the Welsh won on Australian soil.

Taylor then shared how he went up to Ferguson in the bar after the game and called him on his performance.

Ferguson was unapologetic: “Mate, down here we have four codes of football – rules, league, soccer and there’s union, a very poor fourth. Our blokes need all the help they can get and I’m the man to do it”.

Taylor added the icing to the cake when he shared that two years later in 1971 as he hopped off the plane with the Lions, Ferguson was on the tarmac, in the welcoming committee. “Remember me mate? Craig Ferguson – I’m still a cheating b*****d and I’m refereeing on Saturday!”

Was a great night and we were quite privileged to have such great rugby men from both the amateur and professional era’s to share their experiences with us.

Given the challenges rugby continues to face in this country and the recent controversy around refereeing performances in the Super Rugby I found the anecdote amusing but Ferguson’s comment almost eerie as it seems not a lot has changed in 45 years. Rugby continues to be regarded as the fourth code in Australia and referees are still being criticised for favouring home teams, although hopefully not to this extent.

The Crowd Says:

2020-01-02T23:00:09+00:00

Belinda Ferguson

Guest


hahaha, love reading this about my Dad, he loved his rugby so much and it was very much apart of my life growing up. sadly dad passed away in March 2003 from Cancer. He had incredible rugby stories and they were the good old days. He did have a wicked sense of humor and would of been laughing his head off at this story. :happy:

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T08:59:19+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


UA - you are bringing back memories I had happily repressed now!

2014-04-10T08:57:12+00:00

Uncle Argyle

Guest


Did someone say Barons! Gold! I did some of my worst work at Kentra...

2014-04-10T08:46:46+00:00

Adam Julian

Roar Guru


Nice Work

2014-04-10T08:13:23+00:00

Harry

Guest


It was a very sad day, or early morning to be precise, when they shut Barons in 2008. Greatly missed.

2014-04-10T08:11:23+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Ahh Mex, classic http://youtu.be/HF9V4avIxsU

2014-04-10T08:10:42+00:00

Harry

Guest


Rugby Union has always been the province of the private schools and their progeny of Sydney, Brisbane and to a lesser extent Canberra, and the Darling Downs in Queensland and New England district in particular of NSW, though underappreciated how strong country rugby is in both states. It is a reality that remains underappreciated and misunderstood both externally and within Australia. Some progress has been made in WA, Western Sydney, Southern part of Country NSW and the Gold Coast in particular but the code faces two massive, entrenched codes 0- AFL and rugby league, and the number 1 global code, soccer, to get share of attention in Australia. Just one anecdote - in the 1970's the great Bob Temnpleton, long standing Queensalnd coach, deliberately set out to create, in his words, a "mini-Wales" of rugby excellence and devotion with the Queensland Rugby team and its setup, particularly at the home ground Ballymore. And at the same time the QRU deliberately started inviting NZ provincial sides, and touring NZ at least once a year, to lift playing standards. Frankly the achievement to go to world champions (RWC 91 and cleaned up SA at their Newlnads ground in 92) in about 15 years from those times was quite incredible. Sadly the last decade has seen Australian rugby slip back down to being in the pack, clearly below the world's best. I hope for change.

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T06:40:13+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Work in finance mate, hence the time in Singapore and HK - I must say I'm not very Bond like at all! Near the Dudley eh? That is a great part of the world, from my time playing at Colleagues I've got some great memories of the area. We got sponsored over a range of years by the Four in Hand and Paddo Bowling Club. Also used to hit the Bellevue, Durty Nelly's, the Paddo Green, the London, the Grand National, the Phoenix, the Light Brigade and any number of other pubs in the area on a regular basis as well before heading off to Baron's to see in the new day. These days the club is looked after by the Oak in Double Bay. You must be spending too much time sitting in the dingy interior of the Dudley - a great pub but you need to get outside and get some fresh air. Head down the hill and hit the beach at Bondi, or down the hill the other direction and watch Beasties or the Blue Giants run around, or walk around the corner for some bare foot bowls!

2014-04-10T04:30:52+00:00

Johnno

Guest


jeznez what industry do you work in. You have this exciting jet set lifestyle of glamourous locations, and rugby teams gallavanting around the World. It's James Bond like, Im stuck in Sydney in the easterns suburbs up the road from the lord dudley.

2014-04-10T04:28:24+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


hahaha well booze (wine and beer) is also verrry important to me that's why I really approved jez' move to strategically sit next to the bucket with the cold beers in! the 'I cant recall the dessert' says it all ;)

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T04:19:49+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


I'm sure we'll catch up soon then - we have a pretty solid Colleagues network up here. In fact there will be about 7 ex-Blue Giants running around for HKCC vets vs the HKFC vets tonight. The Angels vs The Contemptibles - always a cracker and a great excuse to pull the boots on for the third time this season!

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T04:18:00+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


So true that somethings never change. Each generation thinks they are dealing with unique situations though. When I played Subbies in Sydney for Woollahra Colleagues - I can remember we got 'The Ghost' a bloke who had been club captain back in the 60's or 70's to come in and give the talk at our annual luncheon. He told some brilliant tales. Afterwards a group of the current players, myself included, this was the early '00s chatted further with him and some fellow Old Colleagues. We were loving their tales and one of the guys turned around and said he couldn't believe they had used to get on the piss just as much as we currently did. One of the old blokes looked the young player in the eye and said "That's the problem with you young kids, you think you invented drinking"

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T04:13:38+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Mex was brilliant

2014-04-10T04:13:11+00:00

The Battered Slav

Guest


Wow, So I was about a decade off... not too bad by my poor standards! Cheers Uncle.

2014-04-10T03:57:23+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


:D Don't think I will ever forget that Wal. Mex used to come out with some pearlers, though perhaps not as timeless, My fav - 'I don't like to see hookers going down on players like that' ;)

2014-04-10T03:56:58+00:00

Argyle

Roar Guru


Close, but not that close - however the person you have in mind I thinking is moving up to HK.

2014-04-10T03:52:45+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Good man.

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T03:52:21+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


played for Colleagues and often seen on Bloomberg TV?

2014-04-10T03:49:12+00:00

Argyle

Roar Guru


Yes I think you would have worn the colour well, no doubt.

AUTHOR

2014-04-10T03:48:01+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Mate we get plenty of local banquets as well - this one the food was Anglo but that isn't always the case.

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