Sunday night Origin is the way forward for NRL

By code 13 / Roar Guru

You’re never going to have a completely fair NRL draw when teams don’t play each other the same amount of times.

So the people that say “let’s kill teams so we can!” can just go crawling back to your post-Super League mass-culling fantasy land.

And for those that talk about having an extended 30-round regular season so we can make the draw equal, come back and pitch it after you’ve survived at least one body crunching NRL match.

The draw isn’t fair. Get used to it. Your tears won’t change anything.

So why am I bringing this up? Because every year I have to read or listen to what feels like a thousand people bemoaning the impact of State of Origin. Call me one thousand and one then.

State of Origin impacts the NRL competition, thanks for the scoop. But before you talk about standalone weekends, shortening the NRL season, shifting it post season or, god-forbid, axing Origin, have a think about some of these numbers-

The three game series is valued at close to $100 million
• One in four Australians will watch it on television
• Twenty per cent of the NRL’s $1 billion TV broadcast deal is credited to Origin’s appeal

The reason why the NRL hasn’t acquiesced to your demands is simple: they don’t want to derail the gravy train. And before you get on your high horses about money being the root of all evil, remember that’s the same money that eventually filters down and grows the game at grassroots level.

So let’s examine the suggestions.

Would Origin have the same appeal post-season?
Maybe, but it’s also after interest in the sport has already peaked.

Then again, I don’t expect good management to make $100 million gambles. Everything comes down to risk and cost-benefit analysis.

Even without polling and crunching the hard numbers, I see that move being quite hazardous, even irreparable if it goes sour.

Would axing Origin be smart?
Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

Would shortening the NRL season be smart?
Again, consider a whole-of-the-game approach. If you work less hours and make less product, you’ll have less money to grow the game.

I believe – and I suspect that NRL management would be of a similar opinion – that in Australia’s competitive sporting environment it is unwise for a sport to be willfully contracting its influence.

Should Origin be reduced to a three-week period?
The games benefit from the promotion and word of mouth achieved over the extended media period. Condensing that down to three weeks reduces the amount of exposure and would have a negative impact on the sport’s overall popularity.

Would standalone weekends work?
At the moment the NRL takes a hit to about six to eight rounds (before and after) in order to maximise the benefits from State of Origin. Given the already lengthy regular season, I don’t believe pushing Round 1 back into the heat of February would be wise.

If three rounds were to vanish, you take a hit to the hip pocket and the sport’s overall status.

And for what benefit? It won’t make Origin any bigger and it won’t bring fairness to what will still remain an unfair draw. Plus it will just allow other competing sports to schedule big games on those vacant days. The NRL may as well just write them a cheque.

As much as I support international rugby league, claiming that the Australian sporting public will instead turn out en masse for Samoa versus Fiji is spurious at best. I’d rather see the post-season turned into a proper eight-week worldwide international window, where such games would be the highlight and not in Origin’s shadow.

So is there a better way?

Before the NRL takes drastic steps like culling Origin or the NRL season, they should reconsider Sunday night State of Origin.

It has the same numbers of games, played at the same time of year, the lowest overall risk and would reduce affected NRL rounds down to only the three weekends it’s played on.

This is a compromise to reduce overall negative impact for positive gain. When the league expands to 18 teams this could effectively be just one split round – three games on the three weekends (Friday, Saturday, Sunday afternoon) with every team affected equally.

The impact on State of Origin would be minimal. Even on Wednesday nights other networks have tried to throw their best up against it and failed. Sunday nights would be no different – it would actually mean a slightly larger overall potential audience.

Event television in prime-time ratings season will continue to attract event audiences.

If Monday night football is cancelled in the lead-up to Origin matches and squads are announced after the last Sunday match, it still allows a full week for camps – and it means the NRL round prior is unaffected.

Crowds and television numbers for those other three rounds should increase, and it allows the NRL to schedule big matches for the Queen’s Birthday long weekend.

This is the option with the lowest risk. If the NRL really is open-minded they should just trial it, preferably after the mighty Blues win their next series.

So to the whingers, take comfort in knowing that it might be a while.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T03:01:28+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


I'm all for having junior Origin matches and internationals involving Pacific Island nations but they don't hold the same appeal as regular NRL matches to Australian audiences.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:59:29+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


Again though we're talking about risk here. Do we want to decrease the impact Origin has on the NRL rounds? If so then how can that be done with the lowest possible risk? Shifting the games to a Sunday Night and measuring the pros and cons wouldn't be irrepairable. I'm actually suggesting it's the best compromise.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:57:19+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


If the NRL had the NFL's market position and revenues then the NRL management may be more willing to cut quantity for quality but again I'll repeat I doubt any major sporting code is going to contract its influence in the present competitive marketplace.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:55:56+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


I can only imagine what the people complaining about the length of Origin now would say about having a 4 round gap in between...

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:54:42+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


Again as I've said it's risk and cost-benefit. If the perceived benefit is that 6-8 rounds improve with small to marginal returns but the potential risk is that the Origin brand - one of the games biggest moneymaker - is severely damaged (maybe irrepairably) then it's unlikely to happen.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:52:02+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


As I've said before they're unlikely to condense it down to a three week window. It'll cost them $$$ Why keep pinning your hope on a long shot?

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:50:48+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


The game has changed significantly since the time when we played both Origin and an inbound Great Britain series in the middle of the season. If you notice the trend in other sports they're trying to move towards world wide international windows. Rugby league has an advantage in this regards because the two key domestic leagues NRL & SL already align. Every October & November our sport is capable of having every international team in the world playing in some tournament at the same time. Why then try to cram in 4 internationals (as some propose, all of which would be overshadowed by Origin) and break up the continuity of the NRL season?

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:45:35+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


As I said elsewhere there was a lot of pressure from coaches for 10 day camps. It was shifted to Sunday Night because it is the biggest viewing night of the week.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:44:30+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


Again though I doubt the NRL would be foolish enough to have no programming on Friday or Saturday nights for 2-3 weeks in the peak of the season. And those claiming that viewers will still turn out en masse for Under 20s Origin or Fiji vs Tonga, well they live in a different reality to the rest of us. I'm all for playing those matches at the right time but they're of low appeal in Australia at best.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:41:17+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


I don't see them making big changes to it but I can see them trying to fix the impact on the next round and Sunday Night being the most viable option.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T02:40:33+00:00

code 13

Roar Guru


Well people do change their plans to accommodate big events. And no I'm not actually suggesting Friday or Saturday because those nights do compete with other entertainment options. But Sunday Night remains the biggest viewing night of the week with the minimal amount of non-TV competition. NRL Grand Final, heck even the Super Bowl organiser know this. Again it's the lowest risk option. I would say to disregard it outright is negative thinking.

2014-05-26T22:10:13+00:00

xavialonso

Guest


Origin is bigger than the NRL. It has a life of its own. If we jeopardise, meddle or water it down, league will never be the same. We should leave it as it is before or we might make a mistake we might regret, e.g. create another debacle on the scale of superleauge

2014-05-26T13:57:14+00:00

roger

Guest


Forgot to mention the obvious that SOO would be on a Sunday night. So the three stand alone weekends would be: Friday night: 6pm - Qld Woman vs NSW Woman (Gem?) 8pm - Qld U23's vs NSW u23's (Gem? 9?) or play it Saturday if that's too difficult... Saturday night: Figi vs Samoa with a curtain raiser of some description (junior indigenous game or something) *3weeks later Samoa vs PNG *3 weeks later final - Sunday Night: State of Origin!

2014-05-26T13:48:05+00:00

roger

Guest


What about an under 23's Junior origin (providing its a stand alone weekend) ? Obviously they have an under 20's origin but most people don't know any of the players and it struggled to gain traction. The likes of Anthony Milford, Kreary, Hunt, Wighton up against the likes of Adam Reynolds, Sezer, Tedesco, Brooks, Moylan, Hopoate etc would be a cracking way to build up for origin. Play it on a Friday night and have a womans origin as a curtain raiser. The womens game would also be the next step in building the womens game and giving them the exposure they deserve. Have both games broadcast on FTA. Saturday would see a Figi Vs Samoa and PNG vs Tonga matches coinciding with SOO 1&2, with the winners playing off in a final before origin 3 with the winner to play four nations! You don't lose anything in TV revenue because of split rounds. If you have 24 full rounds and 3 stand alone weekends (27 weeks) its the same length as the current season (26 rounds 1 stand alone), so no loss of income in TV rights, but you'll also have extra content with 9 extra games (three womens origins, three under 23's origins as well as 3 internationals) plus your 24 rounds would be quality, not disrupted by players being unavailable. What about the other stand alone weekend though? You know the one where we have the trans-tasman test and city country ?Play the test on Friday night get rid of city country and have a round similar to what they do in the super league (and something Todd Greenberg has openly said he's considering). You have 8 games in two days at 1 ground. I'd go one step further and have something like 4 games @ANZ on Saturday (all your Sydney clubs) and 4 games @Suncorp on Sunday(play the storm cows, titans broncs etc given they wouldn't draw at ANZ). Yes most test players can't back up but i'd still imagine you'd get 50 000 at Lang Park to see 4 nrl games (they traditionally get around 25000 in origin effected games when the broncos play, add titans cowboys storm etc and 50k is reasonable) and if you play 8 Sydney teams out of homebush you'd be hopefull every team can bring 10 000 fans. Average crowd for the round would still be around 16000 so wouldn't effect crowd figures. You still get 24 full rounds, none affected by origin compared to 6 affected rounds now, potentially one round affected by test match (axe the test if you have to), 3 'Stand alone' weekends where you still get 4 matches each w/e. What are your thoughts roarers?

2014-05-26T11:36:09+00:00

Bee bee

Guest


If you take NFL as an example. (16 rounds.) Less product doesn't necessarily equal less interest. 22 rounds was the norm for a long time and suits a 16 team comp. The intensity of the game these days makes a 24 game season with an international post season an amazing physical and mental endurance test. Not to mention media scrutiny and pressure. I sense the team psychologists are earning their money these days.

2014-05-26T10:04:24+00:00

E-Meter

Guest


I recall the 2001 series as the only time it was played on a Sunday night.

2014-05-26T08:28:31+00:00

AR

Guest


Do people honestly have that little faith in the product? I think the audience would move with it - it's big enough that it has its own gravity. Seriously, all NRL fans complain ad nauseum about all the things that are wrong with the game - but any suggestion about how to improve, and everyone says "No no no! Don't touch it!" Progress for the NRL is impossible without change.

2014-05-26T08:11:02+00:00

Epiquin

Roar Guru


If Origin was moved to post GF and put on a Saturday night I'm willing to bet the audience would halve.

2014-05-26T07:32:38+00:00

Marco

Guest


I would say 40 percent of the NRLs tv deal is because of origin. Not 20 percent. It may be valued even higher. The NRL regular season hardly even rates outside of Nsw and Qld. Origin blows all of the club games away. They won't tamper with the current formula.

2014-05-26T06:46:37+00:00

Siv

Guest


Still prefer 2 representative fortnights With full strength City v Country then SOO I after 10 rounds Followed by SOO 2 and 3 games With a 4 rounds in between We already stop the comp for 2 byes and 1 rep round Leave the Australia v NZ test for the end of season 6 nations

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