The NRL have created this tackling mess

By Andrew Marmont / Roar Guru

Welcome to the new age of rugby league, where players pile-drive each other into the turf like Hulk Hogan and receive a week off.

First of all a pop quiz: these things all have one thing in common. What is it?

• Chicken wing
• Cannonball
• Crusher
• Rolling pin
• Ankle twister
• Head slam
• Dangerous throw

We aren’t talking about food, the circus or baseball. These are now the categories of tackles that are on show in the NRL and Test matches. And because there are now so many different types of tackles, the lines are blurred about how bad each one is.

What we saw by Josh Reynolds and Beau Scott on Brent Tate on Wednesday night was a “dangerous throw” – astounding that this is even in rugby league vernacular, flabbergasting that the league world accepts it without question.

Prior to 2000, players were mainly penalised for committing a high shot, defined as deliberate contact to the head.

After the Melbourne Storm hired John Donahue as a wresting coach in 2001 (as the Daily Telegraph reported), rugby league changed. A martial art expert and former WWF R.A.W submission coach, Donahue taught Melbourne’s players about arm locks and upper body wrestling techniques before any other team realised what was happening.

Now, it seems wresting is here to stay. Every team seems to focus on grappling, pinning and driving.

Before Origin 1 last week, the NRL had to deal with seventeen lifting tackles this season. Say it again slowly. Seventeen lifting tackles. Seventeen. That is more than one a round.

Here is a simple solution: the judiciary need to write down all the types of tackles now prevalent in the game (list above for convenience) and apply a severity rating to each one. Is a head slam more dangerous than an ankle twister? A chicken wing more severe than a dangerous throw? Cannonball versus a crusher?

Otherwise we will continue to get mixed rulings, bemused fans and players. How would you define what makes a dangerous tackle?

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2014-06-05T12:00:47+00:00

Andrew Marmont

Roar Guru


Thanks Max appreciate it!

2014-06-02T03:49:01+00:00

James Cairns

Roar Guru


The ranking system doesn't really make sense, it would just make everything even more complicated because two of the same thing, won't be the same always. also, I'm the minority who likes wrestling in the game, it adds another level of depth to the skill of the game.

2014-06-02T03:09:04+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I'm not sure what the point of this is? Rank the types of tackles. Ok. Why? The problem is that severity, intent and result plays a part in every decision. Most people would rank a head high worse than a chicken wing...but what if the head high was a glancing blow that came off the ball, while the chicken wing dislocated someone's shoulder. I don't understand why people keep saying that the result doesn't matter. It does in every other aspect of life. Drink drive - fine and loss of licence. Drink drive and knock someone down - jail time. Punch someone in the head and bloody their nose - assault. Punch someone in the head and kill them - manslaughter. Why is rugby league different?

2014-06-02T02:46:07+00:00

MAX

Guest


Andrew Marmont I salute you. This piece should be obligatory reading for every serious Rugby League fan. Though there have been some timid efforts and suggestions to be seen to be doing something the results to date have been disappointing for such a serious matter. Andrew has provided the trigger for some positive action by the Moore Park Scotsman. Smith has managed to build an army of personnel and departments which to me seem designed to shield the hierarchy and pass the buck to underlings, almost Rudd like in style and acceptance of responsibility. Inspired by Andrew's piece I visited the NRL website and Rule Book. We sure have a way to go. The spear tackle in all its forms must be totally eradicated. Personally, I put "the Head Rammer" ( Gareth Ellis style) where the ball carrier's forehead is rammed into the turf as being equally dangerous. You don't have to be dirty to be tough ... and gladiatorial. There are a minimum of 20 acts of foul play which need to be eradicated for parents to encourage their children to play the GGoA. Once again, thank you Andrew Marmont ... you should be at Chateau on The Park.

2014-06-02T02:37:15+00:00

Peximus

Guest


If its a great tackle? Great!! The NRL deems it legal so yeah .. Now let all em players learn that great art of safe spear tackling so that the game becomes hyper-exciting! Hopefully all six tackles in each set gets involved in this graceful art!

2014-06-02T01:55:01+00:00

Pete

Roar Rookie


Josh Reynolds has received support from an unlikely source with Newcastle coach Wayne Bennett claiming the Blues five-eighth's tackle on Brent Tate in State of Origin I was an example of great technique. Reynolds and back rower Beau Scott were charged after an ugly tackle that saw Tate flipped as he hit the ball up during the Origin opener. Scott's penalty was not enough to see him serve any time on the sidelines, while there has been a general outcry since the NRL judiciary downgraded Reynolds' original charge from grade two to grade one, freeing him to play in State of Origin II. Bennett, however, refused to join the chorus of dissenters when he spoke to ABC Grandstand following his side's loss to the Warriors on Sunday. He hit him through the middle, it was great technique and as a coach you're proud of what he did in the tackle. Wayne Bennett And the Knights coach has more than a passing interest in the topic, with the injury to his player Alex McKinnon the catalyst for the alleged crackdown on lifting tackles. Audio: Interview: Wayne Bennett (ABC News) "There are two types of tackles that concern me in our game. One is the lifting tackle where they deliberately go in and lift you without any intention to tackle you and the other is the rugby league tackle which can turn a bit sour on you," Bennett said. "In my opinion that was a rugby league tackle. "It probably needs a bit more debate and I don't want to see that tackle again if I can avoid it, but we have to tackle in our game and it happens in a fraction of a second. "He hit him through the middle, it was great technique and as a coach you're proud of what he did in the tackle. All of a sudden you've got a guy up top and you have another situation. "It's what we teach and we can't not teach that. It's the only way you can stop a big guy running at you, not that Brent (Tate) was a big guy, but a big guy's running at you, you have to hit him in the middle and that's been a part of our game for 100-odd years, but when you get him in that position above the shoulder then you've got another decision to make." Photo: Alex McKinnon was left severely injured after this tackle against Melbourne. (AAP: Brett Crockford) Bennett happy with judiciary process Bennett said he was happy with the judiciary process that has freed Reynolds to play in State of Origin II. "At the end of the day, I was happy enough it was graded, it went to the judiciary, they've made a decision and they've downgraded it a little bit," Bennett said. It's not about the NRL every time they charge you with a grading they're going to be right. Wayne Bennett "I can live with that because that's the way it should be and that's the system we all have to live under and we all have to play by those rules. "It's not about them (judiciary) being the sole judge of penalty, it's about your opportunity to go and present your case and he's done that and he's won it fair and square and that's the way it should operate. "It's not about the NRL every time they charge you with a grading they're going to be right." While Bennett backed the NRL crackdown on lifting tackles, he believes it may never be eradicated from the game. "We're going to never eliminate this problem, but what we have to be is absolutely on the money about it and keep giving guys gradings which they just a couple of weeks after the Alex (McKinnon) situation. They gave about six guys gradings and all of a sudden the lifting tackle was just about non-existent. "I'm not saying it won't come back. Periodically it will and they have to judge each on its merits."

2014-06-02T01:28:44+00:00

Pete

Guest


Nothing wrong with the tackle that "Josh Reynolds" made there is an article by none other than Wayne Bennett who has said the same and you would think he would have the most unbiased opinion.... I would link it but its a news artcle from a rival news, use Google news search to find it

2014-06-02T00:41:38+00:00

Brett

Guest


Whether it was accidental or not is irrelevant, it occurred. Reynolds lifted the legs, you can't do that. It's even right there in the photo above! It was a dangerous tackle and should of resulted in a suspension. The NRL are inconsistent and this decision will come back to bite them no doubt.

2014-06-01T22:38:12+00:00

Rodney McDonell

Guest


It wasn't a throw and it was accidental. The player over the top was pulling down, not throwing. He pulled down the upper portion of the body. It just so happened that at the same time, there was also another player attempting a regulation tackle around the stomach/torso. The pulling down action had the effect that the tackled players legs went up whilst the upper portion of his body went down, but this was through no lifting, it was through a pulling action.

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