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I thought it was close to a send off as well…

Gutho fumes at 'stupid' Sivo as Parra throw away lead to lose AGAIN - but should Manly worry about Haumole?

Interesting article. Hopefully it’s an eye opener for people who suggest an NRL club is just like any other workplace…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

I really like Topine. He was the Dogs reserve grade player of the year a couple of times

He had a few chances in first grade. A couple of times he was a bit unlucky in that he ended up having to play in the centres because of injuries on the day. One was a Good Friday massacre where Latrell wrought havoc down his side of the field and scored three tries

He was a hard worker but overall just a little too small to make it as a first grade edge backrower

It’s a terrible shame things have gone down this way…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

That’s fine, it’s just a bit rich when anyone responds to what you’ve put forward you tell them they don’t know what they’re talking about… you’ve done it multiple times

You’re happy to speculate but jump on anyone else doing it…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Just when I thought I’d seen Milne do the dummest, most unnecessary thing on a football field, Sivo says “hold my beer”. Impossible to explain

Olakau’atu should be in a bit of trouble. I go back to the Kurtis Morrin tackle on Cam Murray a few weeks back. It was similar in terms of being a “proper” tackle as opposed to lifting a stationary player with a hand between the legs. Morrin got two weeks with the early plea. Olakau’atu’s was much worse. Lane ended up in a far worse position than Murray did. We’ll see how NSW hopeful gets treated compared to young Neville

Three bits of champagne rugby league from Manly – Brooks’ grubber for Talau’s try was as well weighted and placed kick as you’ll see. The interchange passing between Brown and Jurbo through the middle. But the highlight was DCE’s pass. Beautiful how he threaded it between defenders to hit Turbo’s(?) chest. Trajectory and velocity had to be mm perfect… and it was

Gutho fumes at 'stupid' Sivo as Parra throw away lead to lose AGAIN - but should Manly worry about Haumole?

Must be Parra…

Sorry I tagged you as Melbourne… 😁

Game’s gone soft, huh? League's tough enough without dangerous incidents getting feather touch from judiciary

Ok… it was wrong

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

You keep telling other people “you don’t know the facts” but you’ve written an entire article – that we’re responding to – without knowing the facts

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

I get where you’re coming from but that’s a little back to front

I think you mean the risk tolerance might be higher in high risk industries

In an office environment the safety standards are lower. You don’t need operating procedures and safe work method statements to work the photocopier or the coffee machine

The safety standards are higher in high risk environments

The safety protocols and standards should be commensurate with the level of risk

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Probably his agent realising this would be his last chance to get Topine a contract and claim his 8%…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

That was an absolute shocker of a tackle. Nothing but intent to seriously injure Munster

Sooo lucky to just get three weeks…

NRL Round 8 judiciary: Massive Manly blow as Haumole and DCE banned, Sivo charged for 'stupid' hit

So it wasn’t just me…?

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

How many players have already quit or walked away because of stuff like this..?

Six minutes of extra wrestling might be too much. Does that mean using any physical extras as punishment is off the table?

“Drop and give me 20”

“Not until I’ve spoken with my lawyer”

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

It was both. They had a 90 minute wrestling session and then Topine had to do his extras

People are assuming that because I’m a Bulldogs fan I think they’re blameless. I don’t. Maybe they’ve gone too far, I don’t know

I think the repercussions are massive. What does it do for rugby league clubs if players can turn around and say I’m not doing extras? You can’t make me

There’s people that seem to be horrified by the entire concept of shark baiting but it’s pretty much common practice in the NRL

The impact for the Bulldogs is more immediate, but they’ll be plenty of other clubs watching and with interest.

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Agreed

If you had a “normal” job where the likelihood of breaking a bone, doing an ACL, getting knocked out, etc was as high as it is in the NRL, the company would be out of business in a nanosecond

You can’t treat rugby league as anything approaching a normal workplace

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Is that a bit of a cop out?

“I don’t know what happened but I’ve just written an article all about what happened”

Are you planning your article based on Topine’s claims being incorrect…?

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

It won’t just be the Bulldogs buggered if this gets up…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Best comment I’ve read about this yet…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Anyone that’s played at any level can relate to stuff like that

Treating a professional sports team environment the same way you would an office workplace is silly and the surest way to cripple sport…

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Great call – I was thinking something similar the other day

Jurbo has played 207 NRL games and 35 rep games. He plays big minutes and plays as tough as anyone

I really can’t recall him suffering too many concussions or HIAs. I just did a variety of google searches and couldn’t find anything

NRL News: Ferguson's marquee deal terminated by semi-pro team, Benji happy with Tigers' CEO call

Three heads are better than four…

NRL News: Ferguson's marquee deal terminated by semi-pro team, Benji happy with Tigers' CEO call

“If the allegations are true, we are not talking about extra push-ups or a few laps around the oval or cleaning the changeroom after training. There is a line here, but lines can be crossed”

I think this is key to the issue. Where is the line?

Topine was late to a wrestling session and made to do extra wrestling. Is that wrong?

From initial reports it was 5-6 minutes of wrestling. Is that too much? Is four minutes ok? One minute? No extras wrestling

What if he was late to sprint training and made to do extra sprints?

You say this isn’t a couple of laps around the overall or a few pushups. It’s the wrestling equivalent. Wrestling is more a part of modern training than doing push ups and laps

It seems like people are hearing about shark baiting for the first time and are horrified. It’s a common practice. They doesn’t mean the Bulldogs haven’t taken it too far and crossed the indeterminable line

For anyone to say you can’t make players do that is a little silly

The idea a professional sports club can’t give extra physical training as a disciplinary measure is patently ridiculous

That doesn’t excuse anything the Bulldogs might have done, but it’s not as simple as “you couldn’t do it to a nurse”

As far as I know, nurses don’t have their DON’s swearing and yelling at them halfway through their shifts

Are we going to tell Bellyache he can’t give a half time spray because you can’t do it to nurses?

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

When did it become that Topine was forced to wrestle ‘30 to 35’ team mates?

When it was reported last year and again the last few days it was that he had to wrestle a dozen team mates, while 30-35 squad members looked on

Now it’s being reported everywhere that he had to wrestle 30-35 team mates

Topine vs Bulldogs an important case for NRL and players - wrestling punishment shouldn't be tolerated in a 'workplace'

Yeah, I’d have thought that was relatively simple. I don’t know what I’m missing

I didn’t notice first time but Su’A cannons into Suli and knocked his head straight into JWH’s

When you look at the slo mo there are four heads occupying less than 1 square metre, all travelling at high speed

It’s a recipe for disaster

NRL News: Ferguson's marquee deal terminated by semi-pro team, Benji happy with Tigers' CEO call

Drinky is way more consistent than Sloan in attack

Even with his problems, I’d take Drinky over Sloan every day of the week

A walk in the park: Super Sam shows Roosters what they've been missing in 60-point Anzac smash-up

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