Is Gareth Bale correct about La Liga?

By Steven McBain / Roar Guru

Times are good at Real Madrid. They have just lifted La Décima, and over the summer they have added two of the shining stars from the World Cup.

First Toni Kroos and now the 80-odd million Euro capture of James Rodriguez. Barcelona too have added Luis Suarez to their already glittering array of attacking talent.

Gareth Bale, who joined Real last year for a world record fee, has stated that this proves that La Liga is the best league in the world, such is the concentration of the world’s elite players.

The question is, is he correct?

By several measures he most probably is. A straw poll of who global football fans think are the top few dozen players in the world would certainly include Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo every time.

It is probably safe to say that a majority would also pick several from names such as Bale, Neymar Jr, Andres Iniesta, Angel di Maria, Karem Benzema, Sami Khedira, Sergio Busquets, Sergio Ramos and now Kroos, Rodriguez and Suarez.

The names ooze quality, class and in most cases a whole lorry load of silverware to back up those claims. The only issue with all of the above names is that they play only for two teams out of the 20 that contest La Liga.

Andy Whitelaw posed the question on Red Card Sports Radio this week as to whether La Liga was just a glamorous version of the Scottish League, and it is a very valid question to ask.

Atletico Madrid pricked that bubble to a degree by winning La Liga last season. A collective sigh of relief was heard from all corners.

Many people – including myself – love the football on show in La Liga but find it slightly monotonous watching Real and Barca rack up huge wins week-in week-out. Atletico’s triumph restored some faith in the product. But what happened next?

Barcelona have since recruited Suarez and Real have snapped up Kroos and Rodriguez, while Atletico have simply been decimated.

Here are the points totals for first, second and third since 2010.

2010 – 99, 96 and 71
2011 – 96, 92 and 71
2012 – 100, 91 and 61
2013 – 100, 85 and 76
2014 – 90, 87 and 87

If we are trying to argue that it is a competitive league then these are some pretty tough numbers to digest. However, if you consider European success as a measure of a competitive league then Spain offers some more compelling numbers.

Barca (3) and Real (1) have won four of the last nine Champions Leagues. Had Real not won last year’s final then Atletico would have kept the trophy in Spain.

A look at the Europa League, however, offers an even more compelling argument. Spanish clubs (Sevilla three, Valencia one and Atletico two) have won six out of the last eleven finals. Spain’s current European coefficient far surpasses that of anyone else.

Yes, one can argue that English clubs do not always prioritise the Europa League, but it is nevertheless an impressive performance by the Spanish clubs. It shows that spending huge swathes of cash is not always a better way than sound coaching and shrewd scouting.

So where does all of this leave the English Premier League in comparison?

Well, by several other measures it is the biggest and best league. It has unrivalled global television audiences, is awash with money throughout the game (with accompanying levels of debt to match the Spanish it should be noted) and often produces exciting football and close fought title battles involving several teams.

Or does it?

Since the inception of the EPL, there has been one single dominant team, Manchester United. Blackburn and Newcastle offered resistance in the 1990s before Arsenal again rose to their rightful place at the summit of the English game under the fresh stewardship of Arsene Wenger.

As Arsenal lost their way, new money arrived in the English game in the shape of Chelsea and then Manchester City. The emergence of this nouveau riche changed the face of English football as the two clubs cut their way to success (as did Blackburn).

The establishment of course did not like this and one suspects that these upstarts (add Paris Saint-Germain to the mix) are the ones responsible for the birth of FFP rather than the clubs that imploded such as Fiorentina, Leeds United and Glasgow Rangers.

The irony being Chelsea would have almost certainly joined that list had Roman Abramovich not appeared on the scene.

The point to all this is that while the EPL appears to be a highly competitive league with frequent close title races, the reality is that in the absence of what many call ‘financial doping’, and with Arsenal distracted by building the Emirates, we may have faced a United procession for several seasons now.

All of this has been played out at a time when the overall quality in the EPL looks to be on the decline, with its best players being cherry-picked by either Barca or Madrid several times over.

Manchester United supposedly dropped their interest in Toni Kroos, or so we are told. Here is a team with almost limitless resources in desperate need of a top quality midfield general of which a stand out performer in that very position is available for around 20 million Euros.

Can someone tell me why exactly they dropped their interest?

One could of course come to the conclusion that Kroos’ agent told United that he didn’t fancy the Britannia on Wednesday night in January and fancied hooking up with Bale and Ronaldo with a bit of Champions League action thrown in.

United are a huge draw and arguably the biggest club in the world, but it appears that the likes of Ronaldo, Bale and Kroos prefer Madrid and the weather can only be part of that equation.

Where the EPL does trump La Liga soundly is in the incredible marketing of its product and in its massive advantage in Asia, due to the English language.

Throw in Spanish stubbornness on kick-off times and you have a huge TV audience paying handsomely to tune in to see Danny Welbeck instead of Neymar, with revenues far outweighing the paying audiences in the Americas.

Real and Barca compensate for this disparity in television revenues by creating their own imbalance by taking the lion’s share of Spain’s media revenues.

A more equitable split would ensure a more competitive league by bringing up the rest and hampering the big two’s ability to hoard the world’s very best. Or would it?

Spain’s Europa League results and the success of Atletico in the Champions League last year would indicate that the quality of teams on offer in La Liga is anything but inferior. Just ask Chelsea, who were seen off by Atletico and have looked to dismantle them for their own benefit this summer.

Is it just that the big two in Spain in these days of globalisation are simply too hot to handle for the EPL? It is not United’s fault that they have Mancunian weather and not that of Madrid or Catalonia.

Spain’s big two have always been dominant domestically and have regularly employed the world’s best, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ferenc Puskas, Diego Maradona, Michael Laudrup, Romario, Ronaldo and Zinedine Zidane, the list is too long to even contemplate.

They and Spain, however, had endured a seriously lean period in the previously known European Cup. After Real won it in 1966 it would be another 26 years before Spain triumphed again when Barcelona won their first title. In that period, a single Spanish team (Barcelona) only once even made the final.

During that period, there was a huge English dominance preceded by periods of both Dutch and German lordship. Heysel ended the English period as Serie A became the dominant league, accompanied by the rise of one of the great AC Milan teams.

All of this proves that football moves in cycles, and even in the face of rising globalisation that should always be the case.

The Bundesliga is not often mentioned when discussing which country has the best league, yet it boasts economically viable clubs. Full, vibrant and modern stadia and a league that can boast no less than five separate winners in the past eleven seasons.

Yet, other than Bayern and the odd season from Dortmund, progress in European terms has proven tough for the German clubs. The fact that Bayern have been able to take both Mario Gotze and Robert Lewandowski from its closest rivals in the past two seasons also renders the competition poorer.

Again, however, you could point to the same happening in England where Arsenal have lost several high profile players to both the Manchester clubs. Most Spanish clubs are also rendered impotent when Real or Barca come knocking.

None of which really helps us decide on whether Gareth Bale is right or wrong.

For the time being, nothing looks to be able to stop Barca and Real collecting the world’s very best players. The EPL in turn will continue to pay huge salaries and transfer fees sometimes indiscriminately – are Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana really worth a combined 55 million pounds?

This season’s La Liga looks to be almost certainly a two-horse race, whereas while both Chelsea and City look very strong in the EPL, Liverpool, Arsenal and possibly even a resurgent Man United will wish to have a strong say in matters.

The EPL may have the greater overall marketing glitz and a saturation in television coverage but one thing is for sure, record numbers will be tuning in for El Classico this season.

The Crowd Says:

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2014-07-25T09:39:10+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Thanks for the insight Rellum.

2014-07-25T08:31:10+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


Both Milan teams have no money so they can't really spend. Serie A suffers for a lot of reasons. All the stadia are old relics really, most teams don't own them but rent them from the local government. Only Juve and Roma have any sort of plan to build new stadiums, or in Juve's case already built one. Combine that with violent ultras and you have good reasons for people to stay home and watch games on TV. Of course I believe those games are still broadcast in stand definition ntsc(lower quality than our own PAL broadcasts.). The salaries that Serie A teams can afford which can not compete with the best of the other leagues which reduces the standard of talent across the league.and that doesn't make it a great product to sell overseas. The EPL's popularity happened at just the right time to cash in on the boom in international broadcasting. The only way to claw back into the international spot light is to fix all of the above and for 3-4 of the Serie A teams to make it to the CL quarter finals.

2014-07-25T05:18:25+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


Completely agree steven. For those of us who were born in the 70s (or before), and grew up in the UK or europe, I think the english league has always had a glamorous aspect about it that no other league has, not to this extent at least. Even at the top of Italian football with the like of platini or Maradona in calcio, I remember that english football still had for us non Italians nor english a lot of appeal and romance. Maybe the insularity aspect did help who knows, but football form the UK was always different for us, and by different I mean more 'everything'. The point you make about clasicos is very interesting: in most countries we are talking about 2 or 3 games, usually between top teams. In england, it is spread in all pro divisions, maybe even at amateur level. One of my good english mate is a huge pompey fan and he recently told me that they were still averaging 15k in 4th div, and had a decent away following too. Same with clubs like Milwall, they are part of football's legend, not always for the right reasons, without ever having achieved anyhing special really. Thats the thing that separates UK leagues and mainland europe imo, the fact clubs like Forest, Leeds, Milwall, Ipswich etc have something glamorous about them than no other 'averagely' successful clubs in other countries have. Look at your own Celtic, Rangers or even Hibs or Aberdeen, they also have a unique appeal that goes beyond Scottish football

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2014-07-25T04:16:23+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Rellum, on the subject of Serie A, how serious do you think is the malaise affecting both of the Milan clubs and on a wider issue, what do you think it takes to get attendances back up in the league also? Would be great to see Serie A back and firing again. With Bayern strong, PSG on the up and the perennial strength from Spain and also England, would make for a hell of a Champions League if Serie A could get back on form. Like you say, is all a cycle.

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2014-07-25T04:14:01+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Rellum, it's a fair point. I think for instance Mourinho has going to have a tough job keeping everyone happy at Chelsea this season, especially in the attacking midfield slots.

2014-07-25T04:09:00+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


Pay attention to Roma this season. We have whom I considered to be the best technical director in the game slowly build up a team that will challenge in the same way Athleti did. Not this season but in two or three years Roma will be up there. The challenge for us is the static nature of change and the lower level of wages in Serie A along with a host of other things. I am sure Serie A will have its turn in the cycle soon once Calcio embraces modernising the game, Only Juve and Roma have shown any interest in that so far.

2014-07-25T03:46:57+00:00

Rellum

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To double post from yesterday, Inter in 1999 had a strike force of Recoba, Ronaldo, Vieri, Zamorano, Mutu And Baggio. They couldn't fit them into a team that worked. Better to have a balanced squad where all the players know their roles and the pecking order. You still want competition for places but players need to know where they stand at the start of the season.

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2014-07-25T03:22:47+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Magila, I think unfortunately the big squads are here to stay leaving it in the hands of the few. FFP will only exacerbate that as the smaller clubs will find it way harder to make any ground on the big guys. I think the writing was on the wall probably as early as the early '90s. AC Milan for instance had (I might be out by the odd name) 6 foreign players when they knew they could only play 3 at a time. I think at one point they had Savicevic, Boban, Papin, Rijkaard, Van Basten and Gullit. Lazio I recall had to leave out one of Doll, Riedle, Winter or Gascoigne. Just the way of modern football unfortunately, makes it so much harder for smaller teams to mount a challenge. The bigger teams are happy to sign players just to keep them on the bench in the knowledge that it keeps them out of their rivals' hands. There was a lot of talk that my own club Chelsea very strategic about loaning out Lukaku last season in the knowledge he could hurt the teams around them.

2014-07-25T03:03:40+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


:) Zlatan IS ligue 1

2014-07-25T01:49:10+00:00

magila cutty

Guest


Great read. Is anyone else as heartily sick of watching half a dozen teams hoover up the best talent so "they" can win all the silverware?

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2014-07-25T01:46:19+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Nick cheers for the read and again you make some very salient points. I think the phrase 'sleeping giant' is as wantonly used in the UK as 'world class' is everywhere regarding any decent player. Nevertheless as you say, guys like Leeds and Forest (who I have a HUGE soft spot for due to Brian Clough) are genuine institutions. There's a depth to the football in the country reflected by how many English teams have won the European Cup (5 by my counting unless I've forgotten 1 and that's quite amazing when you think that list doesn't include Arsenal). I think there's a huge amount of romance (a very odd word to use when talking about something English!) with regard to the EPL and I like a huge amount of others fall for that every time. What I'm not able to possibly relate to with the other leagues is the level of tribalism. You can take a game like West Ham versus Millwall which means zero globally yet you'd struggle to find a more venomous fixture anywhere in the World. I know those fixtures exist all over the world, Roma v Lazio, River Plate v Boca etc but I guess I'm just not as conscious of it.

2014-07-25T01:46:08+00:00

AZ_RBB

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" I forgive you for not thinking ligue 1 IS the best league in the world" Zlatan says no.

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2014-07-25T01:39:55+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Jayden, I think the Spanish clubs now take the Copa Del Rey pretty seriously again? At least the fact that the big boys have been winning it again regularly would suggest so and isn't it played over 2 legs until the final which would mean you'd have a pretty close call against England on the number of overall games if you made it to the latter stages. I think us Brits make a huge deal over the amount of games being played, sure it's a factor but they have the squads to cope with it. Everyone else just seems to get on with it although I'm sure tiredness was a factor for the Spanish team at the WC, they looked out on their feet.

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2014-07-25T01:36:22+00:00

Steven McBain

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Cheers Ian, and as all of you say, that point about those players at their peak, it is usually Spain for sure. I'm trying to think back when a really top top player chose the Premiership over an option in Spain - although I'm sure there's been a few. I recall many years ago, ManU thinking they had Ronaldinho in the bag whilst he was still at PSG only for him to go to Barca.

2014-07-25T00:36:38+00:00

Jayden

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I'd factor in the two cups. Capital One and FA take up time, if teams choose to be competitive in those as well as the EPL and Europe, their season is extremely hectic, and often one is sacrificed over the other. Most choose Europa as FA is more financially viable up to a point, and staying in England benefits the team in achieving Premier League success. In comparison, Portugal has a slightly smaller league, adding flexibility as does Germany with 18 teams, Italy, Germany and Spain have one domestic cup per season as well, allowing them to focus on Europe Most times English sides mix first team and back ups against European sides in Europa, whilst said Europe sides are able to field almost full strength line ups consistently.

2014-07-25T00:24:07+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


Great piece again steven, I forgive you for not thinking ligue 1 IS the best league in the world ahhh! Its very hard to assess which league is best and which one produces the best football. Imo the EPL remains the most attractive league in world football. I say attractive rather than best because imo it has more ingredients than other leagues, am talking football c ubs history, what they mean for their region etc. The fact clubs like Leeds, Forest, Ipswich etc are not in the top league says it all. As a football fan, those clubs mean something to me, same with West Ham, Spurs, Newcastle and dozens of other clubs who breaze football. I just dont see the same in any other league. A mid table West Ham v Everton is more inspiring than a Real sociedad v Sevilla or a Genoa v Lazio for most neutral fans. Not saying those other teams are weaker but in football terms, for the fan that I am its just more appealing.

2014-07-25T00:09:30+00:00

Ian

Guest


I agree - really good article Steve. While not being devoted to either league very good points presented and one big point is that as stated, where do the really good players go to play at their peak?. It's Spain.

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2014-07-25T00:02:10+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


AZ,as Magnificent says that's a very pertinent point on the squad sizes. I otten think to myself, how on earth do mid table Premiership sides end up paying what they do in transfer fees and wages and still often get made to look mediocre against European opposition (not saying it happens EVERY time)? I guess the answer is as you say they are paying for huge squads to cope with the amount of football without necessarily having a great first eleven, Spurs last season being a case in point replacing a match winner in Bale with a multitude of lesser players - granted not easy to find another Bale! Would be interesting to compare injury stats between Spain and England, I'd presume they were similar as I don't think the Premiership is quite as physical as everyone makes out compared to the rest but might be worth a look.

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2014-07-24T23:58:14+00:00

Steven McBain

Roar Guru


Cheers Magnificent. As a Brit I'm sure I have an ingrained bias towards the Premiership probably purely on a language and familiarity basis and am sure that's entirely natural and understandable. However, I thought the Europa League stats were hugely telling. I also find myself more and more, if it's a game in the EPL versus one in La Liga that I am both ambivalent to I watch La Liga, but again that's maybe just curiosity. Cheers for reading the piece mate.

2014-07-24T22:48:20+00:00

TheMagnificent11

Roar Guru


Excellent points on squad depth and the popularity of La Liga in Latin America

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