The NRC wrap Round 5: Set piece rules, OK

By Brett McKay / Expert

There’s a bit of a misconception developing out there among NRC sceptics that the law variations introduced for the competition have resulted in a completely different game being played.

These arguments are often followed-up with comparisons between Test and Twenty20 cricket.

Some of these sceptics include some rugby minds that I respect incredibly highly, too, so when I say that this misconception is just plain wrong, I say it with all due respect.

I’ve taken a little bit of enjoyment of late in challenging this misconception. ‘Please detail these dramatic differences for me’ has so far gone unanswered, for the few times I’ve put it out there.

And that’s simply because there’s really not a lot of difference. Yes, the change of goal-kicking value has meant that teams will look to attack more; that is certainly not in dispute. But all of that attack, and the defence that is attempting to repel that attack is… (gasp!) …following exactly the same laws as in Super and Test rugby.

But, but, but, but Brett, what about…? Nope, there’s just no difference.

Yes, there have been tweaks made around the fringe, which does compliment the attacking focus of the competition. Scrums and kicks at goal have to be completed in less time, free kicks don’t have to be taken right on the exact blade of grass the referee is pointing to and a team can still play a lineout properly after kicking for touch after the siren.

Aside from the fringe tweaks, it’s pretty much garden-variety rugby. You can still only kick out on the full from inside your 22. Lineout throws, even if uncontested, still can’t be taken on the ‘outside shoulder’. Defending players still have to enter a ruck through the gate and scrums are still eight-on-eight and must still be fed straight.

I made the point the other day that my observation is that we’re having more set piece contests in the NRC, which can only be a good thing for the development of young Australian props and locks.

And in the scrum particularly, Round 5 was the one where many a club rugby prop found out the hard way just what the difference is between packing against a Super Rugby prop, as opposed to another club prop. Club level looseheads were yellow carded in both games I saw, having been comprehensively towelled up by Super Rugby tightheads. Scrum-related penalty tries are becoming regular events.

I’ve been saying in the last couple of wraps that the teams with the best forwards are the frontrunners, and they are, but this round also saw dominant scrums across the competition being rightly rewarded.

And I’ll say it again: that’s garden-variety rugby.

Queensland Country 24 defeated Greater Sydney Rams 13. Crowd: 1500 (estimate from the ground)
Though the Rams led this one 13-8 at halftime after a really good 20 minute period leading into oranges, the second half very quickly became the Greg Holmes Show. The forgotten former Wallaby and current Reds number three led his Queensland Country pack on a demolition spree.

First, Rams loosehead Jed Gillespie copped it as the Rams’ pack was caned by Country and then referee Rohan Hoffman, when he ran to the posts to award a penalty try. Then only 10 minutes or so later, Hoffman told the Rams after yet more scrum full-arms that something had to change or he’d be forced to act.

Reserve loosehead Dave Lolohea had barely had a chance to get his jersey dirty when he found himself staring a sky-bound yellow card. Complete and utter scrum dominance from Country, and if they can find some attacking improvements, they could be a smokey for the finals.

Worthy mention:
Could only be Holmes. Single-handedly dragged his side back into the game, and reminded the Rams coaches that their set piece needs as much remedial work as their general handling.

NSW Country Eagles 16 lost to Melbourne Rising 37. Crowd: 2000
No obvious puns about Melbourne ‘rising’ this week, because they’re already there. Having now seen them in the flesh, I’ve no doubt at all they’re the best team in the NRC. I’ll be both shocked and stunned if they don’t host the final on the first weekend of November.

An absolutely sensational day at Wade Park in Orange started with possibly the best steak sandwich I’ve had this year, and finished with a sneaky glass of Central Tablelands white. Though reading back through the blog posts, you’d be excused for thinking the sampling started pre-game.

Melbourne coach Sean Hedger told me after the match that Country’s defensive structure and resilience offered the most resistance to his attacking juggernaut in the NRC thus far, and that’s a fair assessment. To keep a team that had been averaging eight tries a game to five was certainly an impressive effort.

Unfortunately, that was it for Country, as they just couldn’t take a trick in attack. Passes were spilled and passes were forward. A string of phases would result in a soft turnover. And the slightest miscalculation in defence often resulted in a Melbourne break.

Twice Melbourne scored two tries in only a few minutes. When it happened in the first half, they forced Country to chase the game, and when they did it again in the second half, they sealed the deal.

Worthy mention:
Hard to narrow it down for Melbourne. Lopeti Timani, Sean McMahon and Telusa Veainu were all very good, but so were their teammates. And it was so good to see former Brumbies and Country number 8 Ita Vaea charging into defenders again, too.

Sydney Stars 37 drew with Canberra Vikings 37. Crowd: 1047
Every time the Vikings built a lead, the Stars would peg it back. Canberra led 13-0 early, but by halftime scores were level.

The second half was more of the same, and three times the Vikings found their lead disappearing, with the last time coming with just 20 seconds on the clock, when Stars winger Jono Sullivan crossed to secure the Stars’ first NRC points.

A bit of an arm-wrestle from reports, and with three yellows handed out, including one to Will Skelton who was otherwise well involved.

Worthy mention:
Suggestions and recommendations welcome.

North Harbour Rays 32 defeated Perth Spirit 29. Crowd: 2187
Scoreboard tennis was the order of the day at Brookvale, too, where North Harbour and Perth exchanged the lead five times for the match, three of those coming in the second half. Both sides found themselves in yellow card trouble, too, as referees remain tough on defensive infringements.

Perth got out to a five-point lead with 15 minutes to go, only to see Rays number 8 Sam Ward cross for his third and flyhalf Hamish Angus to maintain his unblemished record from the tee. North Harbour defended well in the last ten, denying Perth the chance to mount more points, and holding on for their second straight win.

Worthy: Going to be very difficult to top Sam Ward’s three tries, in what was a pretty impressive performance.

Brisbane City had the bye.

NRC ladder after Round 5
Melbourne Rising 25
NSW Country Eagles 15
Brisbane City 12
Canberra Vikings 11
Greater Sydney Rams 9
North Harbour Rays 8
Queensland Country 6
Perth Spirit 6
Sydney Stars 2

Full and official table can be viewed here.

The Crowd Says:

2014-09-23T07:20:15+00:00

Mike

Guest


Hi Brett, sorry about the slow responses as I am overseas. I will answer your question after you sort out the inherent contradiction in your post... ;) and I am not aware of previous responses fro you to me on this topic. for the moment I will wait for your explanation of how Robinson didnt scrummage well except vs stars, yet you also claim you saw the marked drop in performance of Rams scrum against Vikings after he went off.

2014-09-22T23:32:52+00:00

Homer J

Guest


Probably just being rested as he is still only 19 and they would be treating him with kid gloves i reckon. Exceptional talent, lets hope he can transfer it to Super Rugby and take over Alofa's spot.

2014-09-22T14:03:08+00:00

PiratesRugby

Guest


The entire Southern Hemisphere structure? Really? Some people get called in saying something stupid and just put up their hands "fair cop". But you just keep doubling down on stupid in the hope that you'll hit a jackpot.

2014-09-22T12:14:50+00:00

Worlds Biggest

Guest


Nice one Macca, I've got a few mates who live in Orange and went to the game, they had a cracking afternoon. The Rising / Rebels will take some beating. I haven't watched a lot of the NRC so appreciate these wrap ups.

2014-09-22T11:07:56+00:00

Sandy B

Guest


Yep. My bad. Any ideas why. Certainly didn't seem injured when he cut through and scored.

2014-09-22T10:38:04+00:00

Jameswm

Guest


"Why did Kellaher (?) not start on the wing" Kellaway?

2014-09-22T10:09:03+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Thanks for the heads up Gus: Earlier I could locate these Vikings 1st half: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUZce9BjQg Vikings 2nd half: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTeJt_B_ybg Had another look after your update and found this one in a non-descript playlist called 'Liked Videos': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzViLYmweF8&list=LLeWBBHbuXgenvG3CLKdgGjg Can you help with the other two?

AUTHOR

2014-09-22T09:24:30+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


No Mike, I saw it all. I'll absolutely grant you the marked difference in the Rams scrum when Robinson has gone off, but I still stand by my comments about his struggles in the NRC. Aside from the Stars game, I don't think he's been going that well at all. And I've said this to you before. So you tell me, do I know what I'm talking about?

2014-09-22T07:58:22+00:00

Sandy B

Guest


Thanks Brett. I was at Wade Park as well in Orange. A cracking day, despite that lazy breeze late in the second half. Country held Melb well in the first section. Even after the yellow card to the prop they were able to resist the attack on their goal line and got a rousing response from the crowd when they got a turnover and cleared to touch. Alas the rising came back again, and Strzaker crossed for a competent halfs try. After that the result appeared inevitable. country made too many handling errors and forward passes, and melbourne were very clinical. It was interesting to see them only committing one or two to the breakdown when country held the ball. the country structure didnt seem to be very good - a product of good defence. But onto your point of set pieces - the country lineout was atrocious. In the second half I think it was three in a row where they were on attack and the long throw cleared the last jumper for McMahon to clean up the ball. After that they threw the rest to two. John Grant looked pretty impotent but did not get much ball. Why did Kellaher (?) not start on the wing. He scored a great try late in the game. So a good day - thought there might have been a few more there. And I paid too, by the way.

2014-09-22T06:50:56+00:00

Jono

Guest


It would have been nice if Foxsports showed more than just one game a week, especially on the off weeks of the RC. Also wasn't the ARU meant to organise live online streaming of the games? I don't recalling seeing that happen.

2014-09-22T06:40:55+00:00

Mike

Guest


Brett, you obviously missed the earlier game (against the Vikings from memory). The difference in the Rams scrum was glaring after Robinson went off, and that was reflected in the scrum penalties before and after, as well as by observation. Anyone who saw that will not be in the least surprised at the significant drop in Rams scrum performance since the Fat Man was called up for test duty. A few people who usually denigrate Robinson have also denigrated his performance in the NRC, and they do not know what they are talking about.

2014-09-22T06:29:09+00:00

Mike

Guest


I think we've already seen one test call-up from NRC. It can't have escaped McKenzie's notice the difference in the Rams scrum after Benn Robinson went off against the Vikings. The drop in effectiveness of Rams scrum after he left for test duty is also obvious.

2014-09-22T05:23:04+00:00

Gus

Guest


All 4 are up there now.

2014-09-22T05:02:08+00:00

BennO

Guest


As rugby is well and truly my preferred sport, that would be nowhere near as interesting to me I'm afraid! Incidentally, not sure if you noticed but I saw a comment from eaglejack to you over the weekend, to which I think you made reference on this thread, suggesting you stick to rugby or something. In case you didn't return to that thread, the real eaglejack (who is a very reasonable poster) replied to say that someone else was using his handle and it wasn't him who made the disrespectful comment.

2014-09-22T04:26:47+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


No BennO, But I can share with you several breathtakingly wonderful matches of AFL & NRL finals, if you like.....?

2014-09-22T04:15:15+00:00

Atawhai Drive

Roar Guru


Thanks for another comprehensive NRC wrap-up, Brett. I shudder to think where we would be without your dedication. As I have said elsewhere, the mainstream newspapers in Sydney are not exactly falling over themselves to cover the new competition, which has produced plenty of good rugby.

AUTHOR

2014-09-22T04:07:07+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Cheers NOS..

AUTHOR

2014-09-22T04:06:44+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


BB, the 1500 I'm quoting for Thursday is just an estimate from someone there on the night, and I'll quite happily stand corrected if indeed there were more there. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get an official figure out of the Reds to report. Just on the scrummaging battles, and particularly Homer's thoughts on Benn Robinson, it's certainly worth mentioning that Robinson himself had been having trouble in the NRC. Realistically, it was the Rams game against the Stars, where Robinson got the better of Paddy Ryan (and make of that what you will) that has vaulted him into the Wallabies squad..

2014-09-22T03:28:23+00:00

Homer J

Guest


Beating up overweight techniquely deffiicient club props is far from matching it at Super or national level. I have been a fan of Holmes for ages but he constantly gets found out by the strong international props, he just isnt that standard of scrummager but gives everything he has. The fact he is dominating in the NRC is concerning by showing how shallow the propping pool is. Most clubs (and by default the NRC) seem to be replying on large bodies rather than teaching good technique. Loloheia is 140kgs and completley lacked any suitable body height in the scrum, Homles got under him and forced Loloheia to angle in and then collapse. Ben Robinson is the best example of how technique will win over body size in the front row, unfortunately from the games i have seen of the NRC it appears that most clubs are taking the easier option of generating fat men over real scrummagin props. This is the main area the northern hemisphere has it over us as each of the numerous professional rugby clubs has an academy system which focusses on young players and gets their technique right. Currently we don't have that luxury and i don't see how the NRC can establish that as long as you have teams like the Rays where four teams are joined together. Holmes is good, the NRC is awesome but it will take a few years for the whole standard of the competition to really pick up and giev guys like Homles a tough test each week.

2014-09-22T03:26:36+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


Completely agree Brett. Rules are just rules anyway, its people who play the game who make it what it is. You put 2 negative teams who just want to bash each other on a pitch, no matter what the rules are its not going to be great to watch. it was my first game live this weekend and I loved it. There was plenty of contact, both teams were focused (maybe because the game was so tight?) and offered some great rugby. I have seen many more games, at higher level with 'the real rules' as some may say, and it ressembled more the sevens format than this match as it was so one sided. I hope Pulver and co persist, maybe make the teams, venues and region they represent more ' in sinc' but imo it can only get better.

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