Ewen McKenzie on thin ice on results alone

Great stuff Ken. If you want to jump on your high horse and play the white knight - I hope you feel better for it BUT your rant has nothing to do with what is happening here. I have never said (nor thought) that Beale is a worthy human being or that it was all her fault. What I have said is that there are consequences here and she has been the instrument that brought them about. If Beale had sent a lewd picture to a guy doing the role of business manager, come HR person, come mother figure and suggested he was gay or something similar would you still be on your high horse? Absolutely not, therefore your a hypocrite and fall into the same bag as Golden and just hop on the women's movement bandwagon to make yourself feel superior in some stupid way.

And your a apologist for a idiot who has multiple assault charges and now a sexually harrasment charge but hey he's a good rugby player so he should be let off and obviously it was the females fault because she deserved to have that rubbish texted about her ,I wonder it someone had sent that about your wife or daughter wether you would have the same reaction,name me these many woman that would have handled it better ? .This guy punched his captain at the reeboks ,punched a team mate who tried to intervene ,drunkedly punched a hotel bouncer when drunk ,assaulted his 15 year old female cousin at a party and sent lewd messages to team mates about a woman who from all reports was a decent human being but hey you justify her treatment by saying she shouldn't have been there in the first place so some how it's kinda of her fault ,your a joke .

re The Eden Park drubbing. Ive covered that in B2. A bit more detail: - It was a big gamble along with B1. End result: we were tired out, then smashed. - Its a shame we didnt prepare for it because Crotty even leaked on press what their intention was. - The ABs exploited our dirty laundry item #2 (lack of lateral mobility). They will target that again on Sat if on dry ground. I have shared more thoughts about this on Allenthus article. - If you want it broken down in more gory detail, though using a crude analogy – it is here:http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/08/27/how-the-all-blacks-yo-yoed-the-wallabies/ - You can also tell the SBs studied this tactic very well, and their backrow nullified it handsomely in Wellington - In summary ABs was Ali and WBs was Sonny Liston / Joe Fraser. ABs outsped and and outsmarted the WBs, esp the pack. When the WBs were out of puff, they were smashed The WBs dirty laundry list (a) WBs needs to play a 23 man game (ie the BENCH) (b) Power and lateral mobility of the back five (c) Rucking skills of the backs. (d) Kick/chase re-alignment, and as an attack option. (e) pick/go, hammer / leg drive (f) Institutionalised / drilled plays (akin NFL, All Blacks) that permeates WBs, SR and NRC. Folau’s TOP 5 daily regime: 1. 50 gary owens a day (with chase) 2. 50 chip kicks (with chase) 3. 50 grubbers (with chase) 4. 50 clearing kicks 5. 150 long passes: 75 on each side

Yes. But my biggest single problem with the Deans era was the lack of transition between him and EM

gday Chivas. My notes are in moderation. Not sure what triggered it off. Perhaps the length Should come out eventually.

gday Chivas. Not everything is rosy. My only assertion is there has been progress, that addresses structural issues with the WBs ie too much focus on the backs including over reliance (and affinity) on the halves. eg QC love And no bench is not the only problem. It is the problem now. And the top problem. I have copied dirty laundry list, along with the Folau top 5 below. Also happy to share more details which addresses some your pointers. 1. Scrum. The problems persisted pretty for a good part of the last decade, and technique has lifted since EOYT: - in B1, B2, Gold Coast. All scrums issues were bench players or 7-man scrums. The rest were v good. In B1 and B2 the WB starters pushed back the ABs comfortably - in both SA games, WB scrum was strong. There are those still believe this was not possible to do legally and that WBs ‘cheated’ - in GC vs Pumas, the WB starters comfortably scrummed. This after Pumas punished SA and NZ . To the extent that on a Pumas lineout fubar, the WBs took the scrum option instead of lineout again. The ABs have sinced learnt from WBs technique - It will be a while before fans will believe it. The referees certainly have. 2. Yes, thanks for pointing that out re England. Same have had same caveat as #1 3. 2014 forwards depth: - Al SR teams worked extra hard on rucks. Reds failed and injured players during the process, but it was certainly an intent - All except NSW worked extra on set piece especially scrums. Unfortunate that players like KD were not coached to lift their scrum / lineout. Otherwise players like him would be starting for the WBS. 4. Rucks: - Everyone expected ABs to pummel WBs in Sydney wet. Didnt happen. Not even close - Everyone expected SBs to massacre in Perth wet post B2. Didnt happen. Not even close - Everyone expected SBs to destroy in JBurg. Didnt happen. Not even close - The key thing WBs have done as a team, is to judisciously ruck both in attack, and more importantly in defence. This was evident in both SB games

gday Chivas. Not everything is rosy. My only assertion is there has been progress, that addresses structural issues with the WBs ie too much focus on the backs including over reliance (and affinity) on the halves. eg QC love And no bench is not the only problem. It is the problem now. And the top problem. I have copied dirty laundry list, along with the Folau top 5 below. Also happy to share more details which addresses some your pointers. 1. Scrum. The problems persisted pretty for a good part of the last decade, and technique has lifted since EOYT: - in B1, B2, Gold Coast. All scrums issues were bench players or 7-man scrums. The rest were v good. In B1 and B2 the WB starters pushed back the ABs comfortably - in both SA games, WB scrum was strong. There are those still believe this was not possible to do legally and that WBs 'cheated' - in GC vs Pumas, the WB starters comfortably scrummed. This after Pumas punished SA and NZ . To the extent that on a Pumas lineout fubar, the WBs took the scrum option instead of lineout again. The ABs have sinced learnt from WBs technique - It will be a while before fans will believe it. The referees certainly have. 2. Yes, thanks for pointing that out re England. Same have had same caveat as #1 3. 2014 forwards depth: - Al SR teams worked extra hard on rucks. Reds failed and injured players during the process, but it was certainly an intent - All except NSW worked extra on set piece especially scrums. Unfortunate that players like KD were not coached to lift their scrum / lineout. Otherwise players like him would be starting for the WBS. 4. Rucks: - Everyone expected ABs to pummel WBs in Sydney wet. Didnt happen. Not even close - Everyone expected SBs to massacre in Perth wet post B2. Didnt happen. Not even close - Everyone expected SBs to destroy in JBurg. Didnt happen. Not even close - The key thing WBs have done as a team, is to judisciously ruck both in attack, and more importantly in defence. This was evident in both SB games The Eden Park drubbing. Ive covered that in B2. A bit more detail: - It was a big gamble along with B1, and we were tired out, then smashed. Its a shame because Crotty even leaked on press what their intention was. - The ABs exploited our dirty laundry item #2 (lack of lateral mobility). They will target that again on Sat if on dry ground. I have shared more thoughts about this on Allenthus article. - If you want it broken down in more gory detail, though using a crude analogy - it is here:http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/08/27/how-the-all-blacks-yo-yoed-the-wallabies/ - You can also tell the SBs studied this tactic very well, and their backrow nullified it handsomely in Wellington - In summary ABs was Ali and WBs was Sonny Liston / Joe Fraser. ABs outsped and and outsmarted the WBs, esp the pack. When the WBs were out of puff, they were smashed The WBs dirty laundry list (a) WBs needs to play a 23 man game (ie the BENCH) (b) Power and lateral mobility of the back five (c) Rucking skills of the backs. (d) Kick/chase re-alignment, and as an attack option. (e) pick/go, hammer / leg drive (f) Institutionalised / drilled plays (akin NFL, All Blacks) that permeates WBs, SR and NRC. Folau's TOP 5 daily regime: 1. 50 gary owens a day (with chase) 2. 50 chip kicks (with chase) 3. 50 grubbers (with chase) 4. 50 clearing kicks 5. 150 long passes: 75 on each side

Well chronicled, and hasn't it worked out well. I always feel a contract should be honored as a matter of principle, and that good communication can solve all problems. Deans got shafted. Now, schadenfreude.

rubbish ... how many times i say ABs and SA players play in the same S15 that Wallabies play.They did not just arrive to play test matches for ABs + SA. The difference is they get coached to play differently than S15. They get moulded to play with great skills in Rugby Championships. Wallabies have great players that dominate their opposites during S15. But they perform gluelessly and badly in Test matches. It comes down to coaching. Look to what SA did to ABs and they won. They get coached to play an unexpected game plan. If the coaching does not works well with players then why he is a coach. To coach/teach you have to set the atmosphere in the rhythm.

hahaha, glad someone else found it funny too mate

Ewen vs top 3. 1-8-1 Deans vs Eng, SA & NZ in his last 10. 5-4-1

Ewen vs top 3. 1-8-1 Deans vs Eng, SA & NZ in his last 10. 5-4-1

AAC spot in the 23 is as safe as houses.

Its cultural. Aus must be expansive. Aus must have an Aus coach. Aus must beat NZ. Aus doesnt create enough forwards, especially props. Aus player power is out of control. Aus fans and public love to hang sh!7 all over their own players. There are state rivalries that go way to far beyond a sporting rivalry. Aus rugby culture is self destructive and very unhealthy. Nothing wrong with the structure, its the culture imo.

I think the players put in. It's along season and the hits are getting bigger every year. Elite sportsmen are usually tired and carrying niggling injuries all year long. The three amigos are infuriating but they remind us that the sport is played by risk taking young men whose brains are still developing. They are going to stuff up, and stuff up often. This is where I see the management earning its money. These guys will test your skills. If they want these young footballers to be exemplary corporate citizens, then they are going to have to have some very smart systems in place that are supervised by top shelf people managers. It hasn't happened and I can't see this happening soon. It is too simplistic to say 'Sack Beale'. I think we have to ask questions of management also.

And no change of coach will solve anything, just like Deans, so to Link cannot solve the issue, and the next messiah, until structural change comes into Australian rugby that has more of a domestic focus, then all of this is just p_____g in the wind.

Rubbish. Under PDV they beat NZ 5 from 11 games and were the 2nd best team in the world over his era.

Hahaha.

What relevance has 1992 got to do with today's players or coaches or teams. Might as well go back to first match the Boks played the Wallabies. Boks have a superior record overall. Since 1992 the Wallabies enjoyed a golden period , but that ended three years ago, when Meyer started coaching. In 2012, yes, the results were 1all. But the Aussies scraped a win at home and got thumped in South Africa. Pretty much the same thing happened this year, and in 2014 it got ugly in Brisbane. The Boks are clearly a better team and the world rankings show this. McKenzie is out of his depth playing against the Boks, and any neutral will tell you the Wallabies were lucky to get a win in Perth. If you believe the Wallabies are a better team than the Boks right now you are delusional. Link's 25% win ratio paints an accurate picture of how he has struggled against the Boks. Wallabies are also rightly behind England in the rankings.

Deans should have moved on but I guess he felt he had unfinished biz and a good patch was just around the corner. Those that were most passionate about Deans being moved on were extremely unreasonable people, refusing to be rational and viewing things through unbalanced eyes and imo it was deliberate. I have no time for people like that. People said that he sacked or dropped G.Smith. Completely false. People said he didnt care about tries based on his comment that a good game doesnt have to be a try fest. Just a lie. People were in an uproar about Deans not including a 2nd number 7 in the WC squad but Wales, NZ and Aus didnt, 3 of the top 4 at the WC. They were in an uproar about him not selecting Cooper against the Lions. As if QC was even a serious option after his form issues and his "Toxic" comments. Sure he was an option but it was not clear cut at all, infact it was very complicated. There is no doubt that Deans was treated unfairly by the media and the rugby public, even his nationality became an issue for many and spawned the "we need an Australian" movement that Ire, Wales, the Lions, Scot, Ital and Arg seem to be above. It was ironic that the biggest thorn in his side in the playing group arrived in Aus from NZ only a few years ahead of Deans and yet it was said he couldnt relate to the "Australian players". People wanted Deans gone and were determined to paint him as a disaster. Deans wasnt the problem, he just couldnt solve the problem.