Are the Aussie sides on the same page? Do we have Cheika to thank?

By Brett McKay / Expert

We’ve all probably lost count of the number of times we’ve heard the Wallabies coach talking about ‘working with the provinces’ for a more collaborative relationship between the five Super Rugby sides and the Australian team.

Generally speaking, whenever we’ve heard those words, any possible signs of even vague unification have been short-lived. Though the New Zealand franchises can operate quite happily in conjunction with, but also with their own interpretation of the national curriculum, in Australia we remain hopeful that such coordination might finally come to be.

But with the Waratahs winning the Super Rugby title last year with a game plan apparently very close to this supposed ‘Australian way’ of playing the game – and with their coach now the coach of the national side – are the five teams starting to play with similar intent?

It was a thought that came to me midway through the Rebels-Brumbies game on Saturday night. Though the conditions in the second half were particularly challenging for the expansive game, both sides played smart rugby when they had to, before looking to attack wherever possible in the opposition half.

We know Michael Cheika has been talking to the four other state coaches. Indeed, he’s appointed one as his Wallabies attack coach, and has another in the frame to take the set piece reins.

We do also know that Cheika has said he won’t tell the state coaches how to run their sides, and that he doesn’t want the other sides to just adopt the Waratahs attacking mantra because it just happened to be successful. And this is fair enough, too.

If the Wallabies are already guilty of playing too one-dimensionally, the last thing you’d want is for every player to be literally playing the same way at Super Rugby level.

However, I do wonder if the Cheika influence is starting to come through in the other four teams.

Watching the Reds against the Highlanders first up, it was hardly surprising that a Queensland team with James O’Connor at flyhalf would look to attack given half a chance. And when he made the best part of 60 metres from a jinking run right up through the middle of Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin, there was much cause for optimism from Reds supporters.

And though that would prove to be the high point of O’Connor’s return to Australian rugby, he continued to play in this attacking frame of mind, despite the Reds invariably losing the physical battle and not really providing the right platform to from which to attack.

Spiro mentioned Lachie Turner’s move to fullback in his Fairfax column last Saturday, and he was another player looking to run whenever the opportunity was there. Turner and Reds’ wingers Chris Feauai-Sautia and Chris Kuridrani all made more than seven metres per run, with Feauai-Sautia’s efforts nearly double that.

Despite having well less than half the possession, the Reds ran nearly as many times as the Highlanders and actually made more ground. Aside from handling errors and turnovers, the Reds main issue in attack was a lack of shape, but they’re hardly alone there. Even without the shape, though, the intent is heartening.

The Force were terrible against the Reds in Round 2, and though there’s a reasonable argument to say they weren’t much better against the Hurricanes on Friday night, I liked the difference Zack Holmes starting at flyhalf made to their attack.

I’ve long thought that the Force could play a much more natural attacking game with Holmes, rather than Sias Ebersohn, and I think that came to pass on Friday night. Of course, without any semblance of forwards platform, attacking is going to be a difficult prospect for any no. 10, and this was a continuance from what the Force failed to serve up against the Reds.

This all said, I continue to be bewildered with the Force playing Solomoni Rasolea at inside centre with Kyle Godwin at outside. I don’t proclaim to know everything about rugby, but in my mind if one of your centres is a 102kg straight runner and your other one is a 93kg playmaker, you play the creator at 12 and the hole-smasher at 13. Maybe that’s just me.

Right now, it’s like the Force are trying to play a more expansive game than they did last year, but are throttling that very desire with their selections.

The Brumbies attacking intent is clear this season. If the opportunity is there to exploit midfield defences, they’ll take them with clinical regularity. If opposition defence is up to the task, then they’re more than happy to play it tight and attack via set piece. The Laurie Fisher legacy remains strong.

And while ever attacking mauls are allowed to dominate as they currently are, the Brumbies backrowers will score a lot of tries. In Scott Fardy, Jarrod Butler, David Pocock, and now Ita Vaea, the Brumbies also have one of the more impressive over-the-ball teams in the competition, and it’s giving the likes of Matt Toomua, Christian Leali’ifano, and Tevita Kuridrani the room they want to play with.

It’s no wonder Cheika wanted Stephen Larkham on board from day dot.

The Rebels have started the season a lot better than their one-from-two record suggests, and they’re growing in confidence with their attack with every outing. Young Jack Debreczini is starting to find his feet at this next level after a really strong NRC last year, and Melbourne as an attacking unit are growing with him.

If there’s a criticism of the Rebels, it’s only that their ambition is perhaps a step ahead of their current skill level. They created so many opportunities against the Brumbies on Saturday night, but saw the play break down time and time again.

But Mitch Inman is becoming a handful running off Debreczini, and I quite like the way the Mike Harris is injecting himself into the line at times to create more options out wide for Tamati Ellison and the back three.

So where’s all this attack coming from?

Well, though it might be nice to think – or even hope – that the Australian teams have become more coordinated on Cheika’s watch, I think it might be drawing a bit of a long bow. It may well have been a coincidental by-product of off-season conversations and collaborations between the five coaches, but I’ll be surprised if there’s been any directive.

That said, we couldn’t discount the influence of players returning from the Spring Tour, either. Though the Wallabies didn’t have a massive amount of success with the new Cheika blueprint, it is quite possible that the players have bought right into it.

Whatever the reason and despite the varying degrees of attacking form – and taking nothing away from the obvious requirement to build a solid platform up front – it is nevertheless good to see the ball being thrown around again.

The Crowd Says:

2015-03-05T10:13:37+00:00

winston

Guest


He'd get my vote. With Smith as well of course

2015-03-05T02:17:23+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Train, I reckon Paddy starting to turn things around. Then again, maybe Im just wishing more than watching? This Sat will be interesting!

2015-03-05T02:09:30+00:00

Zero Gain

Guest


He is asking the question and answering it at the same time. The headline give the impression that there is some cheerleading going on. And Brett is correct, it is a very long bow and not supported at all by any facts. The super teams are all using whatever style and game plan they believe is best for their team and they are all quite different, in my opinion. Cheika has no influence except at the Tahs and later the Wallabies.

2015-03-05T02:05:01+00:00

Paul

Guest


TWAS, if you are not comparing coaches but recent history, why did you leave 2014 off the Reds Statistics and 2011 from the Brumbies? Red 2014 5-0-11 Brumbies 2011 4-1-11 How about instead of tailoring your stats to make sure you include the poor year of 2012 for the Tahs but ignore the poor year of the Brumbies and Reds, you balance it across the board. 2010 to 2014 for all teams. The difference is not that great. Choose the point of your stats, coaches or recent history. Don't cherry pick

2015-03-04T03:51:43+00:00

Rugby guru 77

Guest


Pocock has done nothing to deserve a spot, horrible first game from him

2015-03-04T03:34:04+00:00

Marlins Tragic

Guest


Ireland looked ominously like Australia of old in the first half, then reverted to type in the second, great game to watch.

2015-03-04T01:22:08+00:00

John

Guest


Having the mindset to play running rugby and actually executing running rugby are one and two different things. The ABs have the mindset but its also the execution of quality ballplayers which make that possible i.e. Ben Smith, Savea, Cruden/Barrett, A.Smith, SBW, Fekitoa.

2015-03-04T01:14:26+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Not great scrummaging depth. just poor selection to choose Paddy Ryan continually over him as a THP.

2015-03-04T01:04:50+00:00

boonzie

Guest


Based on the first few weeks... I think a large contingent of brumbies would/should be picked. Swap out white for phipps and coleman for izzy and you've got a great backline. Foley to the bench for now (based on form so far). You then have to select the hard part... the forwards :) Stand outs thus far for me have been mcmahon and .... daylight?

2015-03-03T23:07:56+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Its ok, you dont have to see it. Though here's quick examples If NSW was serious about depth, Talakai would be holding up their scrum last year. Likewise their players today would have more 21 year olds, and less 31 year olds. Talakai is a good scrummager. And Qld and him chose either other. Not NSW. That is telling, in terms of the priorities and policies of NSW and Cheika: - Qld was one of the best scrummaging teams last year - Tahs had a terrible scrum last year. This year it has lifted - Tahs last year had no scrum coach. BR was running drills. This year it is Mario Ledesma This is as a response to Cheika's performance as WB coach, lessons learnt in NH. And the howling he got for it.

2015-03-03T21:55:12+00:00

Browny

Roar Rookie


I thought the Force backrow has been great so far but their scrum has been.. well, disappointing... even by Australian standards. They played well Rd1 but seem to have disintegrated since then (obviously excluding the loose forwards and McCalman in particular). I want to see a few more games out of the Reds to see how they go. They should be a great pack by the end of the year, Holmes and Simmons to return from injury plus Tui who I'm interested to see get a run. I've been impressed by the Rebels so far. Smith-Leafa-Weeks-Jones-Neville-Timani-Higginbotham-McMahon (Whittaker/Sexton-AhNau-AloEmille-Fainga'a-Samo) doesnt look to bad as a pack. Bit of versatility as Jones, Timani and Samo can all play lock and backrow (havent seen Samo play lock but apparently he can... being 197cm/117kg fits the bill there physically I guess). Still expecting the Tahs pack to step it up a notch. Don't think they're playing as well as they could. Brumbies have been brilliant. Looking forward to Pocock returning and hopefully staying injury free!

2015-03-03T21:54:24+00:00

Mike

Guest


Fair point. And they didn't start the season well!

2015-03-03T21:53:18+00:00

Mike

Guest


Nice comeback Jay :)

2015-03-03T21:34:58+00:00

Browny

Roar Rookie


PeterK, you're forgetting all of Kurtley's chip kicks... you know, those one's Phil Kearns loves so much...

2015-03-03T21:16:04+00:00

Boomeranga

Guest


Talakai for instance spent 2013-2104 in the Gen Blue program at the Waratahs. That he's doing well holding up Queenslands scrum is great but he is scrummaging depth the Waratahs were developing which means his loss isn't good news. Same with Metcher gone to Melbourne after two years and Lam to Canberra for the NRC. Lam was converted in Gen Blue from a flanker to a hooker as the latter are so hard to find. He was then signed to fill a gap for the Vikings. Even Alan Allaotoa turning up as an ACT u20 after a lifetime of wearing blue. My point is that from where I sit I don't see what you see from the other four and NSW dropping the ball.

2015-03-03T20:45:53+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Mike, I was just referring to recent history (ie. mostly the same players remaining). Based on recent history, the reds and brumbies have shown sustained winning formulas. The reds ended in 2013 though. The Waratahs would need to have a good winning percentage in 2015 to say the same.

2015-03-03T19:11:37+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


I mentioned the 5, 1, 5 2005 record that was enough to take the Brumbies to 5th.

2015-03-03T14:36:42+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


cheers Oz. Its still only WIP.

2015-03-03T14:32:22+00:00

Oz in London

Guest


Thanks RobC Thats great to hear. i am excited at the prospect of an improved scrum to provide consistent quality ball to unleash the backs. What a difference if they can consistently receive front foot ball, that extra fraction of a second on the ball, and actually being able to execute a fuller game plan when not getting penalized on our own put in etc.

2015-03-03T14:11:06+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


He’s hired Mario Ledesma. Im guessing as the Tahs scrum coach. Then elevate him to WB coach, at the appropriate time. Once he gets the Tahs to scrum proper, I believe the WBS scrum risk will be mitigated, to a point. Tahs progress has been pretty good. Reds Brumbies Rebs Force scrums are already good. So the final thing he has to do is select the right combinations for the right opponents. More mobile backrow against teams like Ireland. Heavier scrummagers against teams like Wales Eng.

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