Bangladesh boot England out of World Cup

And have a look at the population difference between the two countries! Australia managed to win a tour de france before the Poms (onya Cadel). One of your winners were Kenyan (Froome), the other is half australian. Right now you are better at rugby only because Australias current crop is rubbish. Riccardo will beat Hamilton this F1 year. Kookaburras flog the English in hockey. And I highly doubt Yorkshire has won more gold medals than Australia! Anyway lets wait for the Ashes where we see another 5 nil whitewash in Australias favour.

LOL nothing like an english failure to remind us about all the other things the english sucked at. They definitely wouldn't have won the war on there own and as we saw they can't win a world cup on there own. They have to join with Scotland and Wales just to win gold medals in the olympics.

Thats rich coming from a country that just got booted out of the World Cup by Bangladesh!!!! And is soon to be demoralised by Australia in the Ashes. Perhaps get the Irish team to play the ashes for you, they should put up a better fight!

If you go The Ring Magazine and look at their ratings there are fifteen British fighters rated in the top ten over all the weight divisons as against one lonely Australian, They would beat us eight out of ten if we played them regularly at soccer so at two of the three genuine international sports(athletics is the other one) they are clearly better than us.(they are better than us at athletics as well actually). Also remember England have won their last three home Ashes series and thrashed India last northern summer, so their still ok at real cricket,at least on their home pitches.We beat them up in Rugby League and to be honest beating them at a sport which is really only seriously followed in a few small pockets of three counties is nothing to get excited about.

Glenn You make some valid points but in England Cricket doesn't have the appeal it has here and also in India , Football and Rugby are sports that deliver solid gates to their events and both of those sports are major international events and also dont have a long duration time to play those events . Americans also for instance wont play Cricket due to the duration of the event they dont have the intellectual patience for an event that lasts more than 4-5 hours let alone days , Americans base their sports consumption primarily on the duration of an event and who invented them.. I cant help but note that both Cricket and Rugby League dont bear a major relevance in England though us Australians love them especially Rugby League on the east coast (selective choosing) and Australians largely shun Football and Rugby both sports do or can reflect internationally who we are as Australians . Basically we play English games that they dont favour or appreciate and go back to the motherland to beat down on them , I dont think in Rugby League they've beaten Australia in over 40 years and really never look likely too.

To be honest it was the yanks that ended up winning the war after they entered halfway through.

NZ were ninth? Was Bangladesh in front of them?? Surely NZ could of been only 8th at worst.

Yes if they take a leaf out of Australia's book and pick Root as captain. If i was english selector i would actually want KP in and as captain, he would get them playing attacking aggresive cricket and not the conservative rubbish this team is playing. Pick Root as vice and he can take over once Kevin retires: The issue is that there bowling is so poor. Only Woakes should stay on after this wc Perhaps this is the XI England could take: 1. Hales 2. Roy 3. Taylor 4. Pietersen (c) 5. Root 6. Ali (could play a maxwell type role) 7. Butler 8. Stokes 9. Woakes 10 and 11: 2 new quality quicks, one of which needs to be a left-armer. Any ideas who they could be?

I would pick Root over Finch.

England ( not Britain ) are the most cashed up, heavily resourced, overhyped and underperforming sporting nation in the world. ------ You have to love Aussie sports websites when England lose a game of cricket, all of a suddenly we're the most under performing nation ever, the Empire has crumbled and we should all be ashamed to be English Yes, we lost to the Bangers and we pretty awful, even though ODI is easily the worst form of the game, but we will get over it and move on pretty quickly If we want to do some more comparisons, we're still a whole lot better at football and rugby than Australia, the current F1 champion is English, we have won 2 of the past 4 Tours de France and if i'm correct the English county of Yorkshire has won more gold medals in the past two Olympics that Australia Not bad really, especially considering we do so well in a wide range of things outside of sport :)

That's far too simplistic. The winning side may be militarily inferior but win because of some other factors like vastly superior numbers, geography, bad political leadership or public opinion. This happened in the NZ wars, where the Maori won virtually every battle but lost the overall war. Same in the Anglo-Boer war. The Boers won all the early battles but couldn't compete with the British numbers. In WW2, the German military was clearly superior to each of their enemies individually, but they lost due to poor leadership at the very top level, which sent them into Russia, thereby creating war on two fronts and setting them up to be defeated by an inferior army with vastly superior numbers. The Americans were militarily superior to the North Vietnamese but they lost because public opinion at home didn't allow them to win. The Mujaheddin were vastly militarily inferior to the Russians but they won because of geography. A fluke or one brilliant moment can win a battle or war too. King Harald being killed at the battle of Hastings basically won the war for the Normans. Cracking the German codes in WW2 basically won the war for the Allies. So the inferior often do win, just like Bangladesh just defeated the supposedly superior English.

Does anyone under sixty in England actually care about cricket these days.Even the Daily Telegraph (UK) only gives it minor attention, while it is front and back page news if a soccer player sneezes. Cricket in Australia has one really big advantages, we have much shorter football seasons which means cricket can get some clean air at least from November to January.In England Soccer is just so dominant and the season runs from August to May and then every second year July is taken up with a European or World Cup, poor old cricket...half the population have probably forgotten the game even exists. The truth is the vast majority of people in England will not be too concerned because they simply were not interested in the first place, Soccer is all they care about.

The war analogy is actually very apt. In this case England lost the war but they often muddle through in the end as they did in WW2. They were able to catch up to the Germans because they had a thing called the English Channel which kept the bad guys at bay long enough for them to work out what they'd done wrong leading up to the war. In this cricket world cup they didn't have the luxury of being able to hold on long enough to work out what had gone wrong and muddle through. The Anglo-Boer wars are another example. Lovely lines of soldiers advancing in nicely drilled movements broke down in the face of accurate rifle fire supplemented by a few machine guns. It took a year or so for the British Army to work out that these tactics were wrong. In this case the Boers were not strong enough to convincingly beat the Brits before they changed tactics. The British Army still didn't learn long term lessons from this and had a rule at the beginning of WW1 that there should be at least one machine gun for every 1000 men. Another couple of years learning painful lessons resulted. In this cricket case, England may learn some lessons and come to the next World Cup well prepared for this World Cup. They'll probably muddle through as the minnows won't be there!

I have to ask why do we call the English Pom's though if we call the Pakistani's Paki's its seen as potentially a racist comment ?, anybody ...

Hahaha! Pathetic poms. Remember when Vaughan said this about Anderson? "Jimmy has got that look in his eye now that Glenn McGrath used to have. He looks at the batsman to kind of say that you are not very good. He just takes the confidence away from the batsman. "McGrath used to do it to all the England batsman. It is just this horrible kind of arrogant glare. "I don't think they know they are doing it but Jimmy has it that control and swagger when he gets the ball in his hand that just makes the opposition fear." Hahaha! Utter trash, the guy averages 30 odd with the ball in both forms of the game! Geez, he's had the whole comp terrified so far, pity he's flying back soon. Pfffft, swagger? In his own delusional arrogant world maybe. Disgusting, even comparing that flog to McGrath

I love it when this site goes into geo-politics!

Quite simply not enough people care enough about Cricket in England. It has well and truly been shunted to an after thought for most English. Arsenal - ManU had more of the headlines in the media for their FA Cup 1/4 final. Until Cricket can start to get more of the young interested the national team will continue to be mediocre. As an aside how is it that England still had a chance of making the knock out stages when they had already lost 3 games? Some seriously flawed issues with the tournament for that to occur. BTW Congrats to Bangladesh...at least they have some passion for Cricket.

Yep, that Morgan, not the Piers :)

Oh seriously, it was a couple of skirmishes, and they had help from several European countries and the good ole USA in terms of intelligence, weapons, training and sanctions against Argentina.

Well done to Bangladesh , I keep breaking into a satisfied grin every time I think about the result.